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    Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

    Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice
    enabled forum?

    One of the most powerful, exciting, and engrossing experiences on the
    Internet is the Forum. The first great Internet forums were the
    Usenet newsgroups. Usenet is still a powerful force, but many
    different types of forums are also very popular (such as message
    boards like Vbulliten and XMBforum).

    I love forums. Love em love em love em. My web site has a great one.
    But I think the time has come for an important and breakthrough
    evolutionary advance in Internet Forums. I will describe the idea to
    you, and I hope you will take the idea and run with it. Create this
    product. Develop it. Make millions of dollars. I offer this idea to
    you-because I am not a programmer-and I want this to be made.

    The idea is pretty simple. Any fairly savvy application developer
    with some skills in MySQL should be able to do this. Whoever does it
    right will make a lot of money.

    I want someone to simply improve upon the Internet forum technology.

    The amazing power of a forum is that you can walk into a forum and
    have a conversation. You can ask a question and get insightful,
    funny, and interesting answers. You can then reply and have a
    dialogue. You can do all this at your own pace, your own convenience.
    You can ignore people who don't interest you and you can be as patient
    as you want in replying. It is a wonderful thing. And the time has
    come to liberate this experience from the necessity of a keyboard and
    full powered computer. The technology is here, we just need to take
    advantage of it.

    This is what I want.

    I want to be able at any time of day, whether driving my car, or doing
    dishes, or hiking through the woods -to ask a question of the world.
    I don't want to have to find a computer, go to the website or
    newsreader, and type up my question. I want to just be able to say
    outloud, "What is the fastest any human has ever travelled?" or "What
    the heck does a county commisioner do?"...and I want my question, an
    mp3 recording of my actual voice, immediately posted in a forum. And
    then I want to receive responses-but not responses i have to go sit
    down and read. I want to hear the responses, in the voices of those
    listening to my question.

    Imagine, you could be driving in your car...and you have a question.
    You simply say out loud, "Post this question: Can anyone give me more
    details about the Xbox2? Or "Can anyone tell me real quick how to
    make tomatoe soup?" Or while reading a history book...you could say
    outloud, "Post this question: "Was Wyatt Earp a real person?"
    Whatever you are interested in. For whatever reason you communicate
    with people in Forums, you could do it-but simply with your voice-at
    any time anywhere.

    After you post a question, you might hear a little beep in a few
    minutes letting you know you have responses. Then you could just say
    out loud "Play replies" and the replies would start to play-not in a
    computer voice but in the actual voice of the people answering
    you-because they would be using the same technology.

    With this type of voice message board-you could have engaging,
    interesting, convenient, and fairly natural conversations over the
    Internet. The experience could be liberated from sitting at a
    computer-and it would be enhanced by being able to hear human
    voices-rather than reading text. You could have all the fun and
    convenience of natural conversation-but enhanced through the reach and
    expertise and convenience available over the Internet.

    That is the concept. It may seem daunting, but the technology already
    exists and is available. All this idea requires is a MySQL based
    message board (such as the XMB Forum) and a pretty basic client side
    application. The SQL database could store all the voice messages in
    mp3 format. The client side application would run on a pocketpc phone
    or palm phone.All this application would need to do is

    1) interface with the MySQL database (the message board). Be able to
    upload and download the mp3 files in the appropriate thread-and play
    them on demand.

    2) encode into mp3 format as people recorded their posts.

    3) This part is optional, but would be the ultimate addition: be able
    to recognize some simple voice commands such as "Record" "Post"
    "Replay" "Skip" "Next" "Back".

    Thats it. If you can program or hack MySQL and make pocketpc Apps,
    then you can make this amazing voice enabled internet forum.

    Limitations:
    Bandwidth for moble internet access is an obvious limitation. But
    remember, voice forums will be just as fun and convenient on desktop
    computers and where high bandwidth is available.

    Webstorage. Voice messages will be much bigger. The MySQL database
    will grow fast. But hey, it will be so fun, I think users will be
    willing to pay the message board host a little to help cover storage
    costs. Another alternative is to delete or archive all messages after
    3 days-limiting discussions to fairly current threads.

    Ok thats it. I know this will arrive someday. But why not sooner
    rather than later? Any programmers out there interested in a little
    project like this? If so, go for it. Make millions. I maintain no
    copywrites on this idea. But if you are going to run with this idea,
    please just let me know so I can use the forum on my website.

    The best way for this to be developed is through an open source
    project. Anyone who wants to collaborate on this project with other
    programmers feel free to post on my website to make contacts. Or just
    go for it if you already know how to do something like this. Good
    luck. I look forward to hearing all about it!

    Go here to find other people to help collaborate on this project:


    Submitted by Matt Ready

  • Nils Petter Vaskinn

    #2
    Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

    On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:38:34 +0000, Matt wrote:
    Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice
    enabled forum?
    No.
    One of the most powerful, exciting, and engrossing experiences on the
    [snip: the joy of voice enabled forums]
    I want someone to simply improve upon the Internet forum technology.
    [snip: even more joys of voice enabled forums]
    This is what I want.
    I want to be able at any time of day, whether driving my car, or doing
    [snip: surprise surprise more about the joys of voice forums]


    All that text and you were not able to make me think the _idea_ was any
    good. Nevermind the technical matters but the whole concept seems tedious
    time consuming and unflexible compared to regular forums. Quickly browsing
    the forum would be out of the question. And unless you can come up with
    some revolutionary new voice recognition technology, searchnig for
    information in old posts is out too.
    That is the concept. It may seem daunting, but the technology already
    exists and is available. All this idea requires is a MySQL based
    message board (such as the XMB Forum) and a pretty basic client side
    application. The SQL database could store all the voice messages in
    mp3 format. The client side application would run on a pocketpc phone
    or palm phone.All this application would need to do is
    >
    1) interface with the MySQL database (the message board). Be able to
    upload and download the mp3 files in the appropriate thread-and play
    them on demand.
    Why MySQL. Does MySQL have some property that makes it more suitable for
    this kind of application than any other database?
    If you have already decided on MySQL why is this posted to an oracle group?
    2) encode into mp3 format as people recorded their posts.
    Patented technology, might require lisencing fees.
    3) This part is optional, but would be the ultimate addition: be able
    to recognize some simple voice commands such as "Record" "Post"
    "Replay" "Skip" "Next" "Back".
    Heavy prosessing on server side. Clients can not be trusted not to be
    tampeed with so all data would need to be verified. And that includes
    scanning for data hidden in the mp3 files so you don't become a
    distribution channel for illegal data without even knowing it.
    Thats it. If you can program or hack MySQL and make pocketpc Apps,
    then you can make this amazing voice enabled internet forum.
    >
    Limitations:
    Bandwidth for moble internet access is an obvious limitation. But
    remember, voice forums will be just as fun and convenient on desktop
    computers and where high bandwidth is available.
    Nevermind bandwith for the clients, the server will have to have that much
    more bandwidth, and pay for it by the byte.
    Webstorage. Voice messages will be much bigger. The MySQL database
    will grow fast. But hey, it will be so fun, I think users will be
    willing to pay the message board host a little to help cover storage
    costs.
    Why did you think all those dot-com bubbles burst? Part of it was
    overestimating the publics willingness to pay for services on the internet.
    Another alternative is to delete or archive all messages after
    3 days-limiting discussions to fairly current threads.
    Ruining the searchability meaning all regulars will see is repeats of the
    same old questions. And since scanning for interesting questions will be
    more time consuming than on a text based forum, you will lose the experts.
    Ok thats it. I know this will arrive someday. But why not sooner
    rather than later? Any programmers out there interested in a little
    project like this? If so, go for it. Make millions. I maintain no
    copywrites on this idea. But if you are going to run with this idea,
    please just let me know so I can use the forum on my website.
    It will not arrive until voice recognition is way better than today, and
    handheld machines are powerful enough to perform it.

    If you think it's possible to "Make millions" on this idea why not do it
    yourself? Get someone to invest and pay some programmers to do it, or
    learn what you need to do it yourself. After all when the millions rolls
    in it will be worth it.

    And you can't copyright an idea. You might have patented some of it as a
    business process but now that you've posted about it here it's too late.
    The best way for this to be developed is through an open source
    project. Anyone who wants to collaborate on this project with other
    programmers feel free to post on my website to make contacts.
    Why? We already have usenet, what makes you website a better place?
    Or just
    go for it if you already know how to do something like this. Good
    luck. I look forward to hearing all about it!


    --
    NPV

    "the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away"
    Tom Waits - Step right up

    Comment

    • Aggro

      #3
      Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How abouta voice enabled forum?

      Matt wrote:
      Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice
      enabled forum?
      What you described is a dump idea, like you were told. A better and yet
      your requirements filling idea would be:

      Translate text into speech and speech into text. And put that translator
      in the between usenet and human. You could search, messages wouldn't
      take much space, and the forum is already build. Only think you need is
      that translater. Now, go and implement it ( Actually there are some
      versions of it already existing. But there is some tuning with the
      performanse to do. )

      Comment

      • David

        #4
        Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

        On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:38:34 UTC, Matt <noemail@me.com wrote:
        Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice
        enabled forum?
        <snip>

        Matt,

        Several technologies allow this today. They are not off the shelf
        but non-hackers can get set up if they find the time and money.

        First read up on wearable comuters. Other portable/mobiles may
        suffice for your needs until we can plug into your brain.

        The question-response concept could be from an always-on
        experience (e.g. all incomming relevant traffic is supplied to you)
        or agent based (e.g. new questions trigger agent activites that
        respond with answers).

        David

        Comment

        • Haximus

          #5
          Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

          Hate to burst your bubble but the system already exists, it's called Usenet
          and one can attach files to posts (say, sound files containing verbal
          queries). Also, the idea that you can simply make a verbal query and expect
          a credible response in a timely fashion is ludicrous. Whan was the last
          time a search engine gave you exactly the answer you wanted on the first
          try? Human response is no more accurate, not unless your forums are
          populated *only* with certified authorities on the subject matter at hand.


          "Matt" <noemail@me.com wrote in message
          news:ll2j10pv74 s6dg33999qffg6t b6efm5f7b@4ax.c om...
          Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice
          enabled forum?
          >
          One of the most powerful, exciting, and engrossing experiences on the
          Internet is the Forum. The first great Internet forums were the
          Usenet newsgroups. Usenet is still a powerful force, but many
          different types of forums are also very popular (such as message
          boards like Vbulliten and XMBforum).
          >
          I love forums. Love em love em love em. My web site has a great one.
          But I think the time has come for an important and breakthrough
          evolutionary advance in Internet Forums. I will describe the idea to
          you, and I hope you will take the idea and run with it. Create this
          product. Develop it. Make millions of dollars. I offer this idea to
          you-because I am not a programmer-and I want this to be made.
          >
          The idea is pretty simple. Any fairly savvy application developer
          with some skills in MySQL should be able to do this. Whoever does it
          right will make a lot of money.
          >
          I want someone to simply improve upon the Internet forum technology.
          >
          The amazing power of a forum is that you can walk into a forum and
          have a conversation. You can ask a question and get insightful,
          funny, and interesting answers. You can then reply and have a
          dialogue. You can do all this at your own pace, your own convenience.
          You can ignore people who don't interest you and you can be as patient
          as you want in replying. It is a wonderful thing. And the time has
          come to liberate this experience from the necessity of a keyboard and
          full powered computer. The technology is here, we just need to take
          advantage of it.
          >
          This is what I want.
          >
          I want to be able at any time of day, whether driving my car, or doing
          dishes, or hiking through the woods -to ask a question of the world.
          I don't want to have to find a computer, go to the website or
          newsreader, and type up my question. I want to just be able to say
          outloud, "What is the fastest any human has ever travelled?" or "What
          the heck does a county commisioner do?"...and I want my question, an
          mp3 recording of my actual voice, immediately posted in a forum. And
          then I want to receive responses-but not responses i have to go sit
          down and read. I want to hear the responses, in the voices of those
          listening to my question.
          >
          Imagine, you could be driving in your car...and you have a question.
          You simply say out loud, "Post this question: Can anyone give me more
          details about the Xbox2? Or "Can anyone tell me real quick how to
          make tomatoe soup?" Or while reading a history book...you could say
          outloud, "Post this question: "Was Wyatt Earp a real person?"
          Whatever you are interested in. For whatever reason you communicate
          with people in Forums, you could do it-but simply with your voice-at
          any time anywhere.
          >
          After you post a question, you might hear a little beep in a few
          minutes letting you know you have responses. Then you could just say
          out loud "Play replies" and the replies would start to play-not in a
          computer voice but in the actual voice of the people answering
          you-because they would be using the same technology.
          >
          With this type of voice message board-you could have engaging,
          interesting, convenient, and fairly natural conversations over the
          Internet. The experience could be liberated from sitting at a
          computer-and it would be enhanced by being able to hear human
          voices-rather than reading text. You could have all the fun and
          convenience of natural conversation-but enhanced through the reach and
          expertise and convenience available over the Internet.
          >
          That is the concept. It may seem daunting, but the technology already
          exists and is available. All this idea requires is a MySQL based
          message board (such as the XMB Forum) and a pretty basic client side
          application. The SQL database could store all the voice messages in
          mp3 format. The client side application would run on a pocketpc phone
          or palm phone.All this application would need to do is
          >
          1) interface with the MySQL database (the message board). Be able to
          upload and download the mp3 files in the appropriate thread-and play
          them on demand.
          >
          2) encode into mp3 format as people recorded their posts.
          >
          3) This part is optional, but would be the ultimate addition: be able
          to recognize some simple voice commands such as "Record" "Post"
          "Replay" "Skip" "Next" "Back".
          >
          Thats it. If you can program or hack MySQL and make pocketpc Apps,
          then you can make this amazing voice enabled internet forum.
          >
          Limitations:
          Bandwidth for moble internet access is an obvious limitation. But
          remember, voice forums will be just as fun and convenient on desktop
          computers and where high bandwidth is available.
          >
          Webstorage. Voice messages will be much bigger. The MySQL database
          will grow fast. But hey, it will be so fun, I think users will be
          willing to pay the message board host a little to help cover storage
          costs. Another alternative is to delete or archive all messages after
          3 days-limiting discussions to fairly current threads.
          >
          Ok thats it. I know this will arrive someday. But why not sooner
          rather than later? Any programmers out there interested in a little
          project like this? If so, go for it. Make millions. I maintain no
          copywrites on this idea. But if you are going to run with this idea,
          please just let me know so I can use the forum on my website.
          >
          The best way for this to be developed is through an open source
          project. Anyone who wants to collaborate on this project with other
          programmers feel free to post on my website to make contacts. Or just
          go for it if you already know how to do something like this. Good
          luck. I look forward to hearing all about it!
          >
          Go here to find other people to help collaborate on this project:

          >
          Submitted by Matt Ready
          http://www.wisdomproject.net

          Comment

          • Charlie-Boo

            #6
            Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

            "Haximus" <14356256546@sp am.orgwrote
            Hate to burst your bubble but the system already exists, it's called Usenet
            and one can attach files to posts (say, sound files containing verbal
            queries). Also, the idea that you can simply make a verbal query and expect
            a credible response in a timely fashion is ludicrous. Whan was the last
            time a search engine gave you exactly the answer you wanted on the first
            try? Human response is no more accurate, not unless your forums are
            populated *only* with certified authorities on the subject matter at hand.
            I was just passing through and this caught my eye. I couldn't resist
            responding. "Hate to burst your bubble" - "already exists" -
            "ludicruos" . Man, you are totally out of it. Do you know what people
            said to Dave whats-his-face, the founder of Wendy's, when he said that
            he's going to open a hamburger chain (named after his daughter)?
            "Stupid idea. There's already McDonald's"

            Albert Einstein summed it up well: "Great spirits have always
            encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." I know. I don't
            like to brag, but just this once: I made an 800 on my math college
            board in High School. I'm a friggin' genius. So I have TONS of
            ideas. (I once wrote a 186 page book based on a survey of only about
            5% of my collection of ideas over a 3 year period. I add about a page
            a day - about 10-12 ideas a day. The book sold about 10-15,000
            copies.) People will always be resistant to those who "think outside
            of the box" or try to get ahead or to make things better. I have seen
            it hundreds of times over the years. I see all sorts of stupid things
            that can be greatly improved. George Bush didn't think of guarding
            the border into Pakistan when he invaded Afghanistan and bin Laden
            just walked away before we got there. People are stupid! There's
            tons of room for improvement to almost every aspect of our society.

            To whoever posted the original idea: DON'T LET THE IDIOTS GET IN YOUR
            WAY! PLEASE!! YOU WILL GET THE LAST LAUGH!

            Charlie Volkstorf
            Submitted by Matt Ready
            http://www.wisdomproject.net

            Comment

            • Nils Petter Vaskinn

              #7
              [OT] Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

              On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:39:39 -0800, Charlie-Boo wrote:
              "Haximus" <14356256546@sp am.orgwrote
              >Hate to burst your bubble but the system already exists, it's called Usenet
              >and one can attach files to posts (say, sound files containing verbal
              >queries). Also, the idea that you can simply make a verbal query and expect
              >a credible response in a timely fashion is ludicrous. Whan was the last
              >time a search engine gave you exactly the answer you wanted on the first
              >try? Human response is no more accurate, not unless your forums are
              >populated *only* with certified authorities on the subject matter at hand.
              >
              I was just passing through and this caught my eye. I couldn't resist
              responding. "Hate to burst your bubble" - "already exists" -
              "ludicruos" .
              Man, you are totally out of it. Do you know what people
              said to Dave whats-his-face, the founder of Wendy's, when he said that
              he's going to open a hamburger chain (named after his daughter)?
              "Stupid idea. There's already McDonald's"
              People called X a bad idea.
              X turned out to be a good idea.
              People called Y a bad idea.
              Y is a good idea.

              Do you see the flawed logic?

              And your comparison doesn't hold either. Your story is talking about
              someone that was going sell a product that's basically the same as the
              existing one. (I don't know Wendys but fast food hamburgers are all the
              same IMHO). What we're dealing with here is someone that wants to push
              different product, and then gets told that his product doesn't do some of
              the things that makes the competition popular.
              Albert Einstein summed it up well: "Great spirits have always
              encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."
              And people with bad ideas have always encountered violent opposition from
              those that know better (especially on usenet). He asked for an opinion in
              a public forum so he got it.
              I know. I don't
              like to brag,
              Good for you.

              [snip bragging]

              You don't like to brag but you included that when it's in no way relevant
              to the discussion. (If you think it is, then tell me how you thinking
              you're a genius makes the OP's idea any better)

              But with qualifications like that you can probably do the OP's project for
              him, and prove us all wrong when you make those millions.
              People will always be resistant to those who "think outside
              of the box" or try to get ahead or to make things better.
              Yes we will. Which is why most of us didn't dwell too long on analyzing
              why we thought the idea was bad. The OP got feedback on technical
              obstacles to his idea. And he got feedback on what todays existing
              solutions has that his solution (as described) lacks.

              Now if he was to take that feedback and perhaps use it to improve on his
              original idea he might be on the right track. But people like you telling
              him to stick to his original idea and not take any feedback isn't going to
              lead hin to success.
              To whoever posted the original idea: DON'T LET THE IDIOTS GET IN YOUR
              WAY! PLEASE!! YOU WILL GET THE LAST LAUGH!
              No he won't. He didn't believe enough in the idea himself to make an
              effort to realize it.

              Now if he does try to make something out of his idea I wish him luck. I
              think the idea would fail, but instead of trying to "get the last laugh"
              people told him why they thought that, in an effort to stop him from what
              we would consider a waste of effort..


              Followup set to comp.databases where this was the least off topic.

              --
              NPV

              "the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away"
              Tom Waits - Step right up

              Comment

              • Haximus

                #8
                Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

                "Charlie-Boo" <chvol@aol.comw rote in message
                news:3df1e59f.0 402020639.5f048 6da@posting.goo gle.com...
                "Haximus" <14356256546@sp am.orgwrote
                Hate to burst your bubble but the system already exists, it's called
                Usenet
                and one can attach files to posts (say, sound files containing verbal
                queries). Also, the idea that you can simply make a verbal query and
                expect
                a credible response in a timely fashion is ludicrous. Whan was the last
                time a search engine gave you exactly the answer you wanted on the first
                try? Human response is no more accurate, not unless your forums are
                populated *only* with certified authorities on the subject matter at
                hand.
                >
                I was just passing through and this caught my eye. I couldn't resist
                responding. "Hate to burst your bubble" - "already exists" -
                "ludicruos" . Man, you are totally out of it. Do you know what people
                said to Dave whats-his-face, the founder of Wendy's, when he said that
                he's going to open a hamburger chain (named after his daughter)?
                "Stupid idea. There's already McDonald's"
                I said the capability already exists. If you want to make verbal queries to
                forums, record a sound file and post it, I'm sure most wireless PDAs and
                notebooks could be programmed to do this even while flying down the highway.
                So you make the query and now what happens? The same thing that happens
                when you post a text query to Usenet or any other peer forum - you sit and
                wait until someone answers, maybe five minutes or five days. The OP thinks
                by voice enabling a forum he's going to get realtime answers. Possible of
                course, but I've never seen a public forum perform quite that fast.
                Albert Einstein summed it up well: "Great spirits have always
                encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."
                Thomas Edison also said genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine
                percent perspiration. Real genius is having an idea THEN making it work.
                Lots of people have lots of great ideas but someone actually has to build
                it. I can't tell you how many people I know who had the absolute "killer
                idea" and invested time/money just to find out someone else had already done
                it or it wasn't feasible/practical/economical. No harm in trying but people
                who have ideas need to learn how to do research because 999,999 out of
                1,000,000 times someone has already thought of it. There, I just typed in
                "voice enabled forum" into yahoo and got several hits going back to 2000.
                Creativity is a wonderful thing but the wheel only needs to be invented
                once.
                I know. I don't
                like to brag, but just this once: I made an 800 on my math college
                board in High School. I'm a friggin' genius. So I have TONS of
                ideas. (I once wrote a 186 page book based on a survey of only about
                5% of my collection of ideas over a 3 year period. I add about a page
                a day - about 10-12 ideas a day. The book sold about 10-15,000
                copies.) People will always be resistant to those who "think outside
                of the box" or try to get ahead or to make things better. I have seen
                it hundreds of times over the years. I see all sorts of stupid things
                that can be greatly improved. George Bush didn't think of guarding
                the border into Pakistan when he invaded Afghanistan and bin Laden
                just walked away before we got there. People are stupid! There's
                tons of room for improvement to almost every aspect of our society.
                >
                To whoever posted the original idea: DON'T LET THE IDIOTS GET IN YOUR
                WAY! PLEASE!! YOU WILL GET THE LAST LAUGH!
                So even though you don't like to brag, you go ahead and brag. Save it for
                your mom, I'm sure she will be quite impresssed.


                Comment

                • paul vudmaska

                  #9
                  Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

                  Screw these people. I think it's an interesting idea.

                  I saw some service(for xx$ a month) the other day where you call and
                  people try to answer your question. Automate this and make a killing.

                  Paul

                  Comment

                  • Alan

                    #10
                    Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

                    Sounds like tech support at any software or hardware company :)

                    I saw some service(for xx$ a month) the other day where you call and
                    people try to answer your question.

                    Comment

                    • Haximus

                      #11
                      Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

                      Like Microsoft tech support, 100% perfectly correct answers that are
                      completely useless.

                      "Alan" <alan@erols.com wrote in message
                      news:bvu0tj$10i d9g$1@ID-114862.news.uni-berlin.de...
                      Sounds like tech support at any software or hardware company :)
                      >
                      >
                      I saw some service(for xx$ a month) the other day where you call and
                      people try to answer your question.
                      >
                      >

                      Comment

                      • Bret Pehrson

                        #12
                        Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about avoice enabled forum?

                        How about a forum where the initial author of a thread is the moderator for
                        that thread?

                        Seems to me that would be the single-most useful way to control (in-thread)
                        flame wars, and massive divergance from the original topic and other (very
                        common) nonsense.

                        Matt wrote:
                        >
                        Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice
                        enabled forum?
                        >
                        One of the most powerful, exciting, and engrossing experiences on the
                        Internet is the Forum. The first great Internet forums were the
                        Usenet newsgroups. Usenet is still a powerful force, but many
                        different types of forums are also very popular (such as message
                        boards like Vbulliten and XMBforum).
                        >
                        I love forums. Love em love em love em. My web site has a great one.
                        But I think the time has come for an important and breakthrough
                        evolutionary advance in Internet Forums. I will describe the idea to
                        you, and I hope you will take the idea and run with it. Create this
                        product. Develop it. Make millions of dollars. I offer this idea to
                        you-because I am not a programmer-and I want this to be made.
                        >
                        The idea is pretty simple. Any fairly savvy application developer
                        with some skills in MySQL should be able to do this. Whoever does it
                        right will make a lot of money.
                        >
                        I want someone to simply improve upon the Internet forum technology.
                        >
                        The amazing power of a forum is that you can walk into a forum and
                        have a conversation. You can ask a question and get insightful,
                        funny, and interesting answers. You can then reply and have a
                        dialogue. You can do all this at your own pace, your own convenience.
                        You can ignore people who don't interest you and you can be as patient
                        as you want in replying. It is a wonderful thing. And the time has
                        come to liberate this experience from the necessity of a keyboard and
                        full powered computer. The technology is here, we just need to take
                        advantage of it.
                        >
                        This is what I want.
                        >
                        I want to be able at any time of day, whether driving my car, or doing
                        dishes, or hiking through the woods -to ask a question of the world.
                        I don't want to have to find a computer, go to the website or
                        newsreader, and type up my question. I want to just be able to say
                        outloud, "What is the fastest any human has ever travelled?" or "What
                        the heck does a county commisioner do?"...and I want my question, an
                        mp3 recording of my actual voice, immediately posted in a forum. And
                        then I want to receive responses-but not responses i have to go sit
                        down and read. I want to hear the responses, in the voices of those
                        listening to my question.
                        >
                        Imagine, you could be driving in your car...and you have a question.
                        You simply say out loud, "Post this question: Can anyone give me more
                        details about the Xbox2? Or "Can anyone tell me real quick how to
                        make tomatoe soup?" Or while reading a history book...you could say
                        outloud, "Post this question: "Was Wyatt Earp a real person?"
                        Whatever you are interested in. For whatever reason you communicate
                        with people in Forums, you could do it-but simply with your voice-at
                        any time anywhere.
                        >
                        After you post a question, you might hear a little beep in a few
                        minutes letting you know you have responses. Then you could just say
                        out loud "Play replies" and the replies would start to play-not in a
                        computer voice but in the actual voice of the people answering
                        you-because they would be using the same technology.
                        >
                        With this type of voice message board-you could have engaging,
                        interesting, convenient, and fairly natural conversations over the
                        Internet. The experience could be liberated from sitting at a
                        computer-and it would be enhanced by being able to hear human
                        voices-rather than reading text. You could have all the fun and
                        convenience of natural conversation-but enhanced through the reach and
                        expertise and convenience available over the Internet.
                        >
                        That is the concept. It may seem daunting, but the technology already
                        exists and is available. All this idea requires is a MySQL based
                        message board (such as the XMB Forum) and a pretty basic client side
                        application. The SQL database could store all the voice messages in
                        mp3 format. The client side application would run on a pocketpc phone
                        or palm phone.All this application would need to do is
                        >
                        1) interface with the MySQL database (the message board). Be able to
                        upload and download the mp3 files in the appropriate thread-and play
                        them on demand.
                        >
                        2) encode into mp3 format as people recorded their posts.
                        >
                        3) This part is optional, but would be the ultimate addition: be able
                        to recognize some simple voice commands such as "Record" "Post"
                        "Replay" "Skip" "Next" "Back".
                        >
                        Thats it. If you can program or hack MySQL and make pocketpc Apps,
                        then you can make this amazing voice enabled internet forum.
                        >
                        Limitations:
                        Bandwidth for moble internet access is an obvious limitation. But
                        remember, voice forums will be just as fun and convenient on desktop
                        computers and where high bandwidth is available.
                        >
                        Webstorage. Voice messages will be much bigger. The MySQL database
                        will grow fast. But hey, it will be so fun, I think users will be
                        willing to pay the message board host a little to help cover storage
                        costs. Another alternative is to delete or archive all messages after
                        3 days-limiting discussions to fairly current threads.
                        >
                        Ok thats it. I know this will arrive someday. But why not sooner
                        rather than later? Any programmers out there interested in a little
                        project like this? If so, go for it. Make millions. I maintain no
                        copywrites on this idea. But if you are going to run with this idea,
                        please just let me know so I can use the forum on my website.
                        >
                        The best way for this to be developed is through an open source
                        project. Anyone who wants to collaborate on this project with other
                        programmers feel free to post on my website to make contacts. Or just
                        go for it if you already know how to do something like this. Good
                        luck. I look forward to hearing all about it!
                        >
                        Go here to find other people to help collaborate on this project:

                        >
                        Submitted by Matt Ready
                        http://www.wisdomproject.net
                        --
                        Bret Pehrson
                        mailto:bret@inf owest.com
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                        Comment

                        • Bob Badour

                          #13
                          Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

                          "Bret Pehrson" <bret@infowest. comwrote in message
                          news:40229A95.B B2FCF3@infowest .com...
                          How about a forum where the initial author of a thread is the moderator
                          for
                          that thread?
                          That would only result in a million threads all flaming each other, and no
                          way to filter the whole mess.

                          Seems to me that would be the single-most useful way to control
                          (in-thread)
                          flame wars, and massive divergance from the original topic and other (very
                          common) nonsense.
                          >
                          Matt wrote:

                          Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice
                          enabled forum?

                          One of the most powerful, exciting, and engrossing experiences on the
                          Internet is the Forum. The first great Internet forums were the
                          Usenet newsgroups. Usenet is still a powerful force, but many
                          different types of forums are also very popular (such as message
                          boards like Vbulliten and XMBforum).

                          I love forums. Love em love em love em. My web site has a great one.
                          But I think the time has come for an important and breakthrough
                          evolutionary advance in Internet Forums. I will describe the idea to
                          you, and I hope you will take the idea and run with it. Create this
                          product. Develop it. Make millions of dollars. I offer this idea to
                          you-because I am not a programmer-and I want this to be made.

                          The idea is pretty simple. Any fairly savvy application developer
                          with some skills in MySQL should be able to do this. Whoever does it
                          right will make a lot of money.

                          I want someone to simply improve upon the Internet forum technology.

                          The amazing power of a forum is that you can walk into a forum and
                          have a conversation. You can ask a question and get insightful,
                          funny, and interesting answers. You can then reply and have a
                          dialogue. You can do all this at your own pace, your own convenience.
                          You can ignore people who don't interest you and you can be as patient
                          as you want in replying. It is a wonderful thing. And the time has
                          come to liberate this experience from the necessity of a keyboard and
                          full powered computer. The technology is here, we just need to take
                          advantage of it.

                          This is what I want.

                          I want to be able at any time of day, whether driving my car, or doing
                          dishes, or hiking through the woods -to ask a question of the world.
                          I don't want to have to find a computer, go to the website or
                          newsreader, and type up my question. I want to just be able to say
                          outloud, "What is the fastest any human has ever travelled?" or "What
                          the heck does a county commisioner do?"...and I want my question, an
                          mp3 recording of my actual voice, immediately posted in a forum. And
                          then I want to receive responses-but not responses i have to go sit
                          down and read. I want to hear the responses, in the voices of those
                          listening to my question.

                          Imagine, you could be driving in your car...and you have a question.
                          You simply say out loud, "Post this question: Can anyone give me more
                          details about the Xbox2? Or "Can anyone tell me real quick how to
                          make tomatoe soup?" Or while reading a history book...you could say
                          outloud, "Post this question: "Was Wyatt Earp a real person?"
                          Whatever you are interested in. For whatever reason you communicate
                          with people in Forums, you could do it-but simply with your voice-at
                          any time anywhere.

                          After you post a question, you might hear a little beep in a few
                          minutes letting you know you have responses. Then you could just say
                          out loud "Play replies" and the replies would start to play-not in a
                          computer voice but in the actual voice of the people answering
                          you-because they would be using the same technology.

                          With this type of voice message board-you could have engaging,
                          interesting, convenient, and fairly natural conversations over the
                          Internet. The experience could be liberated from sitting at a
                          computer-and it would be enhanced by being able to hear human
                          voices-rather than reading text. You could have all the fun and
                          convenience of natural conversation-but enhanced through the reach and
                          expertise and convenience available over the Internet.

                          That is the concept. It may seem daunting, but the technology already
                          exists and is available. All this idea requires is a MySQL based
                          message board (such as the XMB Forum) and a pretty basic client side
                          application. The SQL database could store all the voice messages in
                          mp3 format. The client side application would run on a pocketpc phone
                          or palm phone.All this application would need to do is

                          1) interface with the MySQL database (the message board). Be able to
                          upload and download the mp3 files in the appropriate thread-and play
                          them on demand.

                          2) encode into mp3 format as people recorded their posts.

                          3) This part is optional, but would be the ultimate addition: be able
                          to recognize some simple voice commands such as "Record" "Post"
                          "Replay" "Skip" "Next" "Back".

                          Thats it. If you can program or hack MySQL and make pocketpc Apps,
                          then you can make this amazing voice enabled internet forum.

                          Limitations:
                          Bandwidth for moble internet access is an obvious limitation. But
                          remember, voice forums will be just as fun and convenient on desktop
                          computers and where high bandwidth is available.

                          Webstorage. Voice messages will be much bigger. The MySQL database
                          will grow fast. But hey, it will be so fun, I think users will be
                          willing to pay the message board host a little to help cover storage
                          costs. Another alternative is to delete or archive all messages after
                          3 days-limiting discussions to fairly current threads.

                          Ok thats it. I know this will arrive someday. But why not sooner
                          rather than later? Any programmers out there interested in a little
                          project like this? If so, go for it. Make millions. I maintain no
                          copywrites on this idea. But if you are going to run with this idea,
                          please just let me know so I can use the forum on my website.

                          The best way for this to be developed is through an open source
                          project. Anyone who wants to collaborate on this project with other
                          programmers feel free to post on my website to make contacts. Or just
                          go for it if you already know how to do something like this. Good
                          luck. I look forward to hearing all about it!

                          Go here to find other people to help collaborate on this project:
                          http://www.thesearchforwisdom.com/co...ad.php?tid=104

                          Submitted by Matt Ready
                          http://www.wisdomproject.net
                          >
                          --
                          Bret Pehrson
                          mailto:bret@inf owest.com
                          NOSPAM - Include this key in all e-mail correspondence <<38952rglkwdsl >>

                          Comment

                          • puppet_sock@hotmail.com

                            #14
                            Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

                            "Bob Badour" <bbadour@golden .netwrote in message news:<xdWdncrlX 6wXWL_dRVn-gg@golden.net>. ..
                            "Bret Pehrson" <bret@infowest. comwrote in message
                            news:40229A95.B B2FCF3@infowest .com...
                            How about a forum where the initial author of a thread is the moderator
                            for
                            that thread?
                            >
                            That would only result in a million threads all flaming each other, and no
                            way to filter the whole mess.
                            Can you say "usenet?" I new you could.
                            Socks

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                            • Lou G.

                              #15
                              Re: Any progammers looking for a killer app to develop? How about a voice enabled forum?

                              The Killer app idea is a GOOD one and most likely beeing worked on at
                              present.
                              Imagine if you restrict this idea to an enterprise. Then people could
                              ask questions aloud and get answers later from a certified knowledge
                              repository. The repository is organized and very well kept up to date.
                              for example a question might be. When did we shiped the last box to
                              Irak? The answer would appear in a pda or MPA3 player, cellphone etc.
                              There is a product to organize knowledge and exchange it with others
                              at www.thebrain.com

                              "Alan" <alan@erols.com wrote in message news:<bvu0tj$10 id9g$1@ID-114862.news.uni-berlin.de>...

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