XML Visual Basic Questions

[fremenusul]

First let me say I am familar with programming, but not familiar with VB.net.

I am loading an existing XML document with this procedure

Dim xmlFile As String = "..\data\Produc ts.xml"
Dim xmlDoc As XmlDocument

Private Sub Zadig_Load(ByVa l sender As System.Object, ByVal e As
System.EventArg s) Handles MyBase.Load
Dim xmlTr As New XmlTextReader(x mlFile)

While xmlTr.Read
If xmlTr.Name = "id" AndAlso xmlTr.NodeType =
XmlNodeType.Ele ment Then
cmbProducts.Ite ms.Add(xmlTr.Re adString)
End If
End While
xmlTr.Close()

xmlDoc = New XmlDocument
xmlDoc.Load(xml File)

End Sub

If I have a NEW form (IE-Products.vb), will I be able to reference the XML
doc in Memory?

Also, is there a good web reference that shows how to update
XML data (In memory) and then write them back out to a file?

Thanks,

Michael

[Cor Ligthert]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Fremenusul.

When you start with VBNet or beter dotNet and will use XML, you have
yourself first is this an data file or a document.

When it is a data file you would first have a look at the dataset, because
that has its own methods to handle elements, which are a lot easier than the
loaddoc and the xmlreader.

When you have more questions, please reply

Cor

[Sean Hederman]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Each instance of form Zadig will have it's own copy of the xmlDoc variable,
but other form types will not. To share the xmlDoc variable amoungst forms
will require that you make it Public. A good way of exposing it would be the
Singleton Pattern:

Public Class Settings

Private Shared xmlDoc As XmlDocument

Public Shared Property Products As XmlDocument
Get
If xmlDoc Is Nothing Then
' Initialize & load xmlDoc here
End If

Return xmlDoc
End Get
End Property

End Class

Then to access the XmlDocument you'd just do:
Settings.Produc ts

Have a look at
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickst...viewofxml.aspx for
more information on using XML in an application.

"fremenusul " <fremenusul@dis cussions.micros oft.com> wrote in message
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> First let me say I am familar with programming, but not familiar with
> VB.net.
>
> I am loading an existing XML document with this procedure
>
> Dim xmlFile As String = "..\data\Produc ts.xml"
> Dim xmlDoc As XmlDocument
>
> Private Sub Zadig_Load(ByVa l sender As System.Object, ByVal e As
> System.EventArg s) Handles MyBase.Load
> Dim xmlTr As New XmlTextReader(x mlFile)
>
> While xmlTr.Read
> If xmlTr.Name = "id" AndAlso xmlTr.NodeType =
> XmlNodeType.Ele ment Then
> cmbProducts.Ite ms.Add(xmlTr.Re adString)
> End If
> End While
> xmlTr.Close()
>
> xmlDoc = New XmlDocument
> xmlDoc.Load(xml File)
>
> End Sub
>
> If I have a NEW form (IE-Products.vb), will I be able to reference the XML
> doc in Memory?
>
> Also, is there a good web reference that shows how to update
> XML data (In memory) and then write them back out to a file?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>[/color]

[fremenusul]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Why is datafile better? I am learning and want to understand the "why's" as
much as the "how's".

Thanks,

Michael

"Cor Ligthert" wrote:
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> Fremenusul.
>
> When you start with VBNet or beter dotNet and will use XML, you have
> yourself first is this an data file or a document.
>
> When it is a data file you would first have a look at the dataset, because
> that has its own methods to handle elements, which are a lot easier than the
> loaddoc and the xmlreader.
>
> When you have more questions, please reply
>
> Cor
>
>
>[/color]

[Patrice]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

It's just about the programming model. Instead of seing your document as an
XML file you'll see it at a collection of rows with columns as if it were
coming from a DB...

Patrice

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> Why is datafile better? I am learning and want to understand the "why's"[/color]
as[color=blue]
> much as the "how's".
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
> "Cor Ligthert" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Fremenusul.
> >
> > When you start with VBNet or beter dotNet and will use XML, you have
> > yourself first is this an data file or a document.
> >
> > When it is a data file you would first have a look at the dataset,[/color][/color]
because[color=blue][color=green]
> > that has its own methods to handle elements, which are a lot easier than[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > loaddoc and the xmlreader.
> >
> > When you have more questions, please reply
> >
> > Cor
> >
> >
> >[/color][/color]

[Cor Ligthert]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Fremesul,

I checked it because I was surprised that I wrote "better". There is in my
opinion no "best" solution, every solution has a better alternative and I
don't know if that is in this case. I wrote "easier".

However, the dataset is made to cooperate with SQL based databaseservers and
has therefore every functionality to handle it.

Basically it exist from collections of datatables, which have collections
of datarows, which have collections of dataitems. The dataitems are
described in datacolumns. While as well it is possible to make relations in
this for the tables.

It has a lot of standard methods in dotnet to send and use in different
ways.

To give you four samples in VBNet format,

reading of a dataset from a disk is.
mydataset.readX ML("path").
writing
mydataset.write XML("path")
showing the complete dataset in a datagrid
mydatagrid1.dat asource = mydataset
getting the first item from the first row from the first table
mydataset.table s(0).rows(0)(0)
or when it would have had names
mydataset.table s("myfirsttable ").rows(0).item s("MyFirstItem" )

However, this is just the begin and all based on data.

I hope this gives some ideas'

Cor





"fremenusul " <fremenusul@dis cussions.micros oft.com> schreef in bericht
news:7004A1AA-CF5F-47B6-8A79-6D53EBD858E5@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
> Why is datafile better? I am learning and want to understand the "why's"
> as
> much as the "how's".
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
> "Cor Ligthert" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Fremenusul.
>>
>> When you start with VBNet or beter dotNet and will use XML, you have
>> yourself first is this an data file or a document.
>>
>> When it is a data file you would first have a look at the dataset,
>> because
>> that has its own methods to handle elements, which are a lot easier than
>> the
>> loaddoc and the xmlreader.
>>
>> When you have more questions, please reply
>>
>> Cor
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

[Cor Ligthert]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Patrice,
[color=blue]
> It's just about the programming model. Instead of seing your document as
> an
> XML file you'll see it at a collection of rows with columns as if it were
> coming from a DB...[/color]

In my opinion wrong; every dataset can be a XML file, not every XML file is
a dataset.

Cor

[Patrice]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Is this what I said ?

Was just trying to respond to fremensul that wanted to know why you
suggested to use a DataSet for XML data files. My remakrs about the
programming model is to be taken in this context, not that you should always
handle all XML files on earth using this programming model...

Patrice
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"Cor Ligthert" <notmyfirstname @planet.nl> a écrit dans le message de
news:%23HLOjnMJ FHA.3484@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> Patrice,
>[color=green]
> > It's just about the programming model. Instead of seing your document as
> > an
> > XML file you'll see it at a collection of rows with columns as if it[/color][/color]
were[color=blue][color=green]
> > coming from a DB...[/color]
>
> In my opinion wrong; every dataset can be a XML file, not every XML file[/color]
is[color=blue]
> a dataset.
>
> Cor
>
>[/color]

[Cor Ligthert]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Patrice,

Je pense que c'était mon mauvaise idée au sujet de votre texte.
I think that it was my wrong idea about your text.

Excusez-moi.
Sorry

:-)

Cor

[Patrice]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Sorry, it sometimes a bit hard to express yourself or to understand what
others are saying. I even wondered before answering as this is not so
important fbut found a bit strange your response in this context.

Later in this group - you saw English is not my native language ;-)

Patrice

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"Cor Ligthert" <notmyfirstname @planet.nl> a écrit dans le message de
news:%23BPr2FNJ FHA.1304@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> Patrice,
>
> Je pense que c'était mon mauvaise idée au sujet de votre texte.
> I think that it was my wrong idea about your text.
>
> Excusez-moi.
> Sorry
>
> :-)
>
> Cor
>
>[/color]

[fremenusul]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

Thanks to everyone that replied. I will be reading over all the answers and
most likley, asking lots more questions.

Thanks again.

"Cor Ligthert" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Fremesul,
>
> I checked it because I was surprised that I wrote "better". There is in my
> opinion no "best" solution, every solution has a better alternative and I
> don't know if that is in this case. I wrote "easier".
>
> However, the dataset is made to cooperate with SQL based databaseservers and
> has therefore every functionality to handle it.
>
> Basically it exist from collections of datatables, which have collections
> of datarows, which have collections of dataitems. The dataitems are
> described in datacolumns. While as well it is possible to make relations in
> this for the tables.
>
> It has a lot of standard methods in dotnet to send and use in different
> ways.
>
> To give you four samples in VBNet format,
>
> reading of a dataset from a disk is.
> mydataset.readX ML("path").
> writing
> mydataset.write XML("path")
> showing the complete dataset in a datagrid
> mydatagrid1.dat asource = mydataset
> getting the first item from the first row from the first table
> mydataset.table s(0).rows(0)(0)
> or when it would have had names
> mydataset.table s("myfirsttable ").rows(0).item s("MyFirstItem" )
>
> However, this is just the begin and all based on data.
>
> I hope this gives some ideas'
>
> Cor
>
>
>
>
>
> "fremenusul " <fremenusul@dis cussions.micros oft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:7004A1AA-CF5F-47B6-8A79-6D53EBD858E5@mi crosoft.com...[color=green]
> > Why is datafile better? I am learning and want to understand the "why's"
> > as
> > much as the "how's".
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > "Cor Ligthert" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Fremenusul.
> >>
> >> When you start with VBNet or beter dotNet and will use XML, you have
> >> yourself first is this an data file or a document.
> >>
> >> When it is a data file you would first have a look at the dataset,
> >> because
> >> that has its own methods to handle elements, which are a lot easier than
> >> the
> >> loaddoc and the xmlreader.
> >>
> >> When you have more questions, please reply
> >>
> >> Cor
> >>
> >>
> >>[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[fremenusul]

Re: XML Visual Basic Questions

A followup question...

If I use XmlDocument (DOM implimentation I believe) I can "append" data to
my XML file right (In memory). Then when I am done, I can "output" a xml file.

Is there somewhere that can explain this process clearly? Read in XML file,
modify the xml (in memory) then output it back out???

Thanks for any help.

"Sean Hederman" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Each instance of form Zadig will have it's own copy of the xmlDoc variable,
> but other form types will not. To share the xmlDoc variable amoungst forms
> will require that you make it Public. A good way of exposing it would be the
> Singleton Pattern:
>
> Public Class Settings
>
> Private Shared xmlDoc As XmlDocument
>
> Public Shared Property Products As XmlDocument
> Get
> If xmlDoc Is Nothing Then
> ' Initialize & load xmlDoc here
> End If
>
> Return xmlDoc
> End Get
> End Property
>
> End Class
>
> Then to access the XmlDocument you'd just do:
> Settings.Produc ts
>
> Have a look at
> http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickst...viewofxml.aspx for
> more information on using XML in an application.
>
> "fremenusul " <fremenusul@dis cussions.micros oft.com> wrote in message
> news:AB6FEA7E-05D6-402D-84A2-B55258B6D7D0@mi crosoft.com...[color=green]
> > First let me say I am familar with programming, but not familiar with
> > VB.net.
> >
> > I am loading an existing XML document with this procedure
> >
> > Dim xmlFile As String = "..\data\Produc ts.xml"
> > Dim xmlDoc As XmlDocument
> >
> > Private Sub Zadig_Load(ByVa l sender As System.Object, ByVal e As
> > System.EventArg s) Handles MyBase.Load
> > Dim xmlTr As New XmlTextReader(x mlFile)
> >
> > While xmlTr.Read
> > If xmlTr.Name = "id" AndAlso xmlTr.NodeType =
> > XmlNodeType.Ele ment Then
> > cmbProducts.Ite ms.Add(xmlTr.Re adString)
> > End If
> > End While
> > xmlTr.Close()
> >
> > xmlDoc = New XmlDocument
> > xmlDoc.Load(xml File)
> >
> > End Sub
> >
> > If I have a NEW form (IE-Products.vb), will I be able to reference the XML
> > doc in Memory?
> >
> > Also, is there a good web reference that shows how to update
> > XML data (In memory) and then write them back out to a file?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]