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  • kneejerkreaction

    #1

    Learning .NET (expensive software)

    I'm seeking advice on learning .NET

    I have experience in ASP, HTML, Vb, Vbscript and Javascript but want to learn .NET I also have some experience with SQL Server and Oracle databases.
    My employer thinks even with the previous experience noted above, I am incapable of picking up .NET (they are hiring from outside) so I want to learn it independently. I have several books on .NET and XML etc. but am at the point where I need to be able work thru the programming examples in the books. The problem is the software is so expensive. Visual Studio.NET costs over $1000 and I also need to buy a web server and a database such as SQL Server. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn this technology without bankrupting myself? I'd like to be able to create fully functioning websites that I can use as examples for prospective employers.

  • Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\) [MVP]

    #2
    Re: Learning .NET (expensive software)

    Download SharpDevelop from SourceForge.com . You can do a search to find it.
    It is not Visual Studio, but it is a good editor to get started with. Then,
    download the Framework SDK 1.1 and start developing.

    If you want to get ahead of the curve, you can download the new beta Express
    products (both SQL Server 2005 Express and web developer, et al) from:


    --
    Gregory A. Beamer
    MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

    *************** *************** *************** ***
    Think Outside the Box!
    *************** *************** *************** ***
    "kneejerkreacti on" <kneejerkreacti on@discussions. microsoft.com> wrote in
    message news:B0557707-8BCB-4000-9C14-7D0F27C2B65E@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
    > I'm seeking advice on learning .NET
    >
    > I have experience in ASP, HTML, Vb, Vbscript and Javascript but want to[/color]
    learn .NET I also have some experience with SQL Server and Oracle databases.[color=blue]
    > My employer thinks even with the previous experience noted above, I am[/color]
    incapable of picking up .NET (they are hiring from outside) so I want to
    learn it independently. I have several books on .NET and XML etc. but am at
    the point where I need to be able work thru the programming examples in the
    books. The problem is the software is so expensive. Visual Studio.NET costs
    over $1000 and I also need to buy a web server and a database such as SQL
    Server. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn this technology without
    bankrupting myself? I'd like to be able to create fully functioning websites
    that I can use as examples for prospective employers.[color=blue]
    >[/color]


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    • Marina

      #3
      Re: Learning .NET (expensive software)

      There is webmatrix, which is a free IDE for web development, I think you can
      get it from www.asp.net.

      Also, you can get MSDE for free, which is the basic version of SQL Server
      with some limitations, but should be good enough for your purpose.

      And I think IIS is a free web server.

      "kneejerkreacti on" <kneejerkreacti on@discussions. microsoft.com> wrote in
      message news:B0557707-8BCB-4000-9C14-7D0F27C2B65E@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
      > I'm seeking advice on learning .NET
      >
      > I have experience in ASP, HTML, Vb, Vbscript and Javascript but want to[/color]
      learn .NET I also have some experience with SQL Server and Oracle databases.[color=blue]
      > My employer thinks even with the previous experience noted above, I am[/color]
      incapable of picking up .NET (they are hiring from outside) so I want to
      learn it independently. I have several books on .NET and XML etc. but am at
      the point where I need to be able work thru the programming examples in the
      books. The problem is the software is so expensive. Visual Studio.NET costs
      over $1000 and I also need to buy a web server and a database such as SQL
      Server. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn this technology without
      bankrupting myself? I'd like to be able to create fully functioning websites
      that I can use as examples for prospective employers.[color=blue]
      >[/color]


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      • Jared

        #4
        Re: Learning .NET (expensive software)

        You can by the Standard edition of either vb or c# for around $99.00, MSDE
        can be used as your SQL server, and any professional edition of your desktop
        OS can host a web server, XP Pro, 2000 Pro. So out of pocket cost $99.00.
        This is what I use to "teach myself" .NET.
        Jared
        "kneejerkreacti on" <kneejerkreacti on@discussions. microsoft.com> wrote in
        message news:B0557707-8BCB-4000-9C14-7D0F27C2B65E@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
        > I'm seeking advice on learning .NET
        >
        > I have experience in ASP, HTML, Vb, Vbscript and Javascript but want to
        > learn .NET I also have some experience with SQL Server and Oracle
        > databases.
        > My employer thinks even with the previous experience noted above, I am
        > incapable of picking up .NET (they are hiring from outside) so I want to
        > learn it independently. I have several books on .NET and XML etc. but am
        > at the point where I need to be able work thru the programming examples in
        > the books. The problem is the software is so expensive. Visual Studio.NET
        > costs over $1000 and I also need to buy a web server and a database such
        > as SQL Server. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn this technology
        > without bankrupting myself? I'd like to be able to create fully
        > functioning websites that I can use as examples for prospective employers.
        >[/color]


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        • Cor Ligthert

          #5
          Re: Learning .NET (expensive software)

          Hi,

          You can take this to learn,


          You can downsload this beneath which include as well learning stuff and also
          VBC.exe what is an Visual basic commandline compiler (There is as well the
          same for C# in it)

          http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

          I hope this helps a little bit?


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          • clintonG

            #6
            Re: Learning .NET (expensive software)

            Make sure you scour Microsoft's SQL Server site as last
            August Microsoft started selling SQL Server 2000 Developer
            Edition for only $49.00. That price may still be available.

            Finally, I would sit nice and quiet accepting that employer's
            paychecks while I was learning .NET quietly on the side
            (meaning never let anybody at work know).

            After I was sufficiently convinced of my capabilities I would
            walk out on the dummy employer reminding them you
            would like to work for somebody who has faith in you.

            <%= Clinton Gallagher



            "Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) [MVP]" <NoSpamMgbworld @comcast.netNoS pamM> wrote
            in message news:OyRzoMmdEH A.3512@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
            > Download SharpDevelop from SourceForge.com . You can do a search to find[/color]
            it.[color=blue]
            > It is not Visual Studio, but it is a good editor to get started with.[/color]
            Then,[color=blue]
            > download the Framework SDK 1.1 and start developing.
            >
            > If you want to get ahead of the curve, you can download the new beta[/color]
            Express[color=blue]
            > products (both SQL Server 2005 Express and web developer, et al) from:
            > http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/
            >
            > --
            > Gregory A. Beamer
            > MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
            >
            > *************** *************** *************** ***
            > Think Outside the Box!
            > *************** *************** *************** ***
            > "kneejerkreacti on" <kneejerkreacti on@discussions. microsoft.com> wrote in
            > message news:B0557707-8BCB-4000-9C14-7D0F27C2B65E@mi crosoft.com...[color=green]
            > > I'm seeking advice on learning .NET
            > >
            > > I have experience in ASP, HTML, Vb, Vbscript and Javascript but want to[/color]
            > learn .NET I also have some experience with SQL Server and Oracle[/color]
            databases.[color=blue][color=green]
            > > My employer thinks even with the previous experience noted above, I am[/color]
            > incapable of picking up .NET (they are hiring from outside) so I want to
            > learn it independently. I have several books on .NET and XML etc. but am[/color]
            at[color=blue]
            > the point where I need to be able work thru the programming examples in[/color]
            the[color=blue]
            > books. The problem is the software is so expensive. Visual Studio.NET[/color]
            costs[color=blue]
            > over $1000 and I also need to buy a web server and a database such as SQL
            > Server. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn this technology without
            > bankrupting myself? I'd like to be able to create fully functioning[/color]
            websites[color=blue]
            > that I can use as examples for prospective employers.[color=green]
            > >[/color]
            >
            >[/color]


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            • Steve McLellan

              #7
              Re: Learning .NET (expensive software)

              Hi,

              Yeah, there's an educational version which is really cheap. Also, MS run
              their Academic lliance scheme which colleges / schools etc can be a part of,
              and (I believe) if you're a student at a place participating, you can get a
              license for free. Definitely worth asking about.

              Have a look at
              http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/ho....aspx#academic

              Steve

              "kneejerkreacti on" <kneejerkreacti on@discussions. microsoft.com> wrote in
              message news:45B968A8-81C7-4541-895D-695562F87E75@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
              > Thanks for all the great advice.
              > One problem I have is that eventually I want to get the MCSD certification[/color]
              in .NET and one of the core exams is 'developing with visual studio .net'.
              so presumably I will need to buy it. Is there an academic version, do you
              know?[color=blue]
              >
              > "Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) [MVP]" wrote:
              >[color=green]
              > > Download SharpDevelop from SourceForge.com . You can do a search to find[/color][/color]
              it.[color=blue][color=green]
              > > It is not Visual Studio, but it is a good editor to get started with.[/color][/color]
              Then,[color=blue][color=green]
              > > download the Framework SDK 1.1 and start developing.
              > >
              > > If you want to get ahead of the curve, you can download the new beta[/color][/color]
              Express[color=blue][color=green]
              > > products (both SQL Server 2005 Express and web developer, et al) from:
              > > http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/
              > >
              > > --
              > > Gregory A. Beamer
              > > MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
              > >
              > > *************** *************** *************** ***
              > > Think Outside the Box!
              > > *************** *************** *************** ***
              > > "kneejerkreacti on" <kneejerkreacti on@discussions. microsoft.com> wrote in
              > > message news:B0557707-8BCB-4000-9C14-7D0F27C2B65E@mi crosoft.com...[color=darkred]
              > > > I'm seeking advice on learning .NET
              > > >
              > > > I have experience in ASP, HTML, Vb, Vbscript and Javascript but want[/color][/color][/color]
              to[color=blue][color=green]
              > > learn .NET I also have some experience with SQL Server and Oracle[/color][/color]
              databases.[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
              > > > My employer thinks even with the previous experience noted above, I am[/color]
              > > incapable of picking up .NET (they are hiring from outside) so I want to
              > > learn it independently. I have several books on .NET and XML etc. but[/color][/color]
              am at[color=blue][color=green]
              > > the point where I need to be able work thru the programming examples in[/color][/color]
              the[color=blue][color=green]
              > > books. The problem is the software is so expensive. Visual Studio.NET[/color][/color]
              costs[color=blue][color=green]
              > > over $1000 and I also need to buy a web server and a database such as[/color][/color]
              SQL[color=blue][color=green]
              > > Server. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn this technology[/color][/color]
              without[color=blue][color=green]
              > > bankrupting myself? I'd like to be able to create fully functioning[/color][/color]
              websites[color=blue][color=green]
              > > that I can use as examples for prospective employers.[color=darkred]
              > > >[/color]
              > >
              > >
              > >[/color][/color]


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