Interfaces, Big Deal!!

[Franco Gustavo]

Hi,



Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm missing.



I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C# doesn't
implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.



So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve my
problem with interfaces.

The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find the way
to resolve my problem.



If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the methods on
the derived class, then what's the big deal.



I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is useful
because for example

I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
Rectangle, and Line.

If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on each
derived class then I could do the next.



IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;

s.draw();



I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question is what
is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple Interfaces???? I
don't see too much



Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
Interfaces like they have a relation???



My Case:



I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my own
Controls.

For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );



I create and interface

IVirtualSize



It contain

public getVirtualSize( );



So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize and that's
it.



Very nice!!!



Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint method; this
logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
implement this entire logic on each Control???



With multiple inheritances you just create a class
ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and really I
have a nice source code, because my class ExtendedControl Funcionality has
all the new extended functionality.



Then how can I do the same with interfaces????



I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a mess
and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code and in
the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that means I
want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me because
OnPaintEx needs those.



Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of source
code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do that.



Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.

Gustavo.

[Sherif ElMetainy]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Hello

Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance. But your
problem can be solved by deriving the class ExtendedControl Funcionality from
Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.

Best regards,

Sherif


"Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm missing.
>
>
>
> I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C# doesn't
> implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
>
>
>
> So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve my
> problem with interfaces.
>
> The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find the[/color]
way[color=blue]
> to resolve my problem.
>
>
>
> If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the methods[/color]
on[color=blue]
> the derived class, then what's the big deal.
>
>
>
> I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is useful
> because for example
>
> I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
> Rectangle, and Line.
>
> If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on each
> derived class then I could do the next.
>
>
>
> IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
>
> s.draw();
>
>
>
> I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question is what
> is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple Interfaces????[/color]
I[color=blue]
> don't see too much
>
>
>
> Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> Interfaces like they have a relation???
>
>
>
> My Case:
>
>
>
> I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my own
> Controls.
>
> For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
>
>
>
> I create and interface
>
> IVirtualSize
>
>
>
> It contain
>
> public getVirtualSize( );
>
>
>
> So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize and[/color]
that's[color=blue]
> it.
>
>
>
> Very nice!!!
>
>
>
> Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint method; this
> logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
> implement this entire logic on each Control???
>
>
>
> With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and really I
> have a nice source code, because my class ExtendedControl Funcionality has
> all the new extended functionality.
>
>
>
> Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
>
>
>
> I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a mess
> and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code and in
> the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that means I
> want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me[/color]
because[color=blue]
> OnPaintEx needs those.
>
>
>
> Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of source
> code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do that.
>
>
>
> Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
>
> Gustavo.
>
>
>
>[/color]

[Franco Gustavo]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

But Control doesn't do anything that I want.

Basically, I want derive from Label, Panel, GroupBox, CheckBox, RadioButton,
etc. and add my extended funcionalities

The Class control doesn't have any funcionality.

On that case if I derived from Control I have to rewrite each windows
control from scratch wich is "not possible", doesn't make sense.

Thanks,
Gustavo.

"Sherif ElMetainy" <elmeteny.NOSPA M@wayout.net.NO SPAM> wrote in message
news:%23yrvKOmi DHA.1048@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> Hello
>
> Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance. But[/color]
your[color=blue]
> problem can be solved by deriving the class ExtendedControl Funcionality[/color]
from[color=blue]
> Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sherif
>
>
> "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm missing.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C# doesn't
> > implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
> >
> >
> >
> > So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve my
> > problem with interfaces.
> >
> > The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find the[/color]
> way[color=green]
> > to resolve my problem.
> >
> >
> >
> > If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the methods[/color]
> on[color=green]
> > the derived class, then what's the big deal.
> >
> >
> >
> > I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is useful
> > because for example
> >
> > I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
> > Rectangle, and Line.
> >
> > If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on each
> > derived class then I could do the next.
> >
> >
> >
> > IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
> >
> > s.draw();
> >
> >
> >
> > I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question is[/color][/color]
what[color=blue][color=green]
> > is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple[/color][/color]
Interfaces????[color=blue]
> I[color=green]
> > don't see too much
> >
> >
> >
> > Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > Interfaces like they have a relation???
> >
> >
> >
> > My Case:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my own
> > Controls.
> >
> > For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
> >
> >
> >
> > I create and interface
> >
> > IVirtualSize
> >
> >
> >
> > It contain
> >
> > public getVirtualSize( );
> >
> >
> >
> > So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize and[/color]
> that's[color=green]
> > it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Very nice!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint method;[/color][/color]
this[color=blue][color=green]
> > logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
> > implement this entire logic on each Control???
> >
> >
> >
> > With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> > ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and really[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> > have a nice source code, because my class ExtendedControl Funcionality[/color][/color]
has[color=blue][color=green]
> > all the new extended functionality.
> >
> >
> >
> > Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a[/color][/color]
mess[color=blue][color=green]
> > and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code and[/color][/color]
in[color=blue][color=green]
> > the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that means[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> > want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me[/color]
> because[color=green]
> > OnPaintEx needs those.
> >
> >
> >
> > Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of source
> > code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do[/color][/color]
that.[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
> >
> > Gustavo.
> >
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Kieran Benton]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

So just have a class that has private members of all those types. Inheriting
from all of the GUI classes does not make sense as they are all functionally
different.

Kieran

"Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
news:uSkgoXmiDH A.3660@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> But Control doesn't do anything that I want.
>
> Basically, I want derive from Label, Panel, GroupBox, CheckBox,[/color]
RadioButton,[color=blue]
> etc. and add my extended funcionalities
>
> The Class control doesn't have any funcionality.
>
> On that case if I derived from Control I have to rewrite each windows
> control from scratch wich is "not possible", doesn't make sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Gustavo.
>
> "Sherif ElMetainy" <elmeteny.NOSPA M@wayout.net.NO SPAM> wrote in message
> news:%23yrvKOmi DHA.1048@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > Hello
> >
> > Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance. But[/color]
> your[color=green]
> > problem can be solved by deriving the class ExtendedControl Funcionality[/color]
> from[color=green]
> > Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Sherif
> >
> >
> > "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> > news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm[/color][/color][/color]
missing.[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C#[/color][/color][/color]
doesn't[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve my
> > > problem with interfaces.
> > >
> > > The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > way[color=darkred]
> > > to resolve my problem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the[/color][/color][/color]
methods[color=blue][color=green]
> > on[color=darkred]
> > > the derived class, then what's the big deal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is useful
> > > because for example
> > >
> > > I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
> > > Rectangle, and Line.
> > >
> > > If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on each
> > > derived class then I could do the next.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
> > >
> > > s.draw();
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question is[/color][/color]
> what[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple[/color][/color]
> Interfaces????[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > don't see too much
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > > Interfaces like they have a relation???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My Case:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my own
> > > Controls.
> > >
> > > For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I create and interface
> > >
> > > IVirtualSize
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It contain
> > >
> > > public getVirtualSize( );
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize and[/color]
> > that's[color=darkred]
> > > it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very nice!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint method;[/color][/color]
> this[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
> > > implement this entire logic on each Control???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> > > ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and[/color][/color][/color]
really[color=blue]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > have a nice source code, because my class ExtendedControl Funcionality[/color][/color]
> has[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > all the new extended functionality.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a[/color][/color]
> mess[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue]
> in[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that[/color][/color][/color]
means[color=blue]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me[/color]
> > because[color=darkred]
> > > OnPaintEx needs those.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of[/color][/color][/color]
source[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do[/color][/color]
> that.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
> > >
> > > Gustavo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Anon]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Can you implement the logic into a function (if VB) or static method in a
class (VB or C#). Then for a control, implement your new interface and in
the method of the implemented interface just pass the call onto the function
or shared method?



"Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
news:uSkgoXmiDH A.3660@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> But Control doesn't do anything that I want.
>
> Basically, I want derive from Label, Panel, GroupBox, CheckBox,[/color]
RadioButton,[color=blue]
> etc. and add my extended funcionalities
>
> The Class control doesn't have any funcionality.
>
> On that case if I derived from Control I have to rewrite each windows
> control from scratch wich is "not possible", doesn't make sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Gustavo.
>
> "Sherif ElMetainy" <elmeteny.NOSPA M@wayout.net.NO SPAM> wrote in message
> news:%23yrvKOmi DHA.1048@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > Hello
> >
> > Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance. But[/color]
> your[color=green]
> > problem can be solved by deriving the class ExtendedControl Funcionality[/color]
> from[color=green]
> > Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Sherif
> >
> >
> > "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> > news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm[/color][/color][/color]
missing.[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C#[/color][/color][/color]
doesn't[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve my
> > > problem with interfaces.
> > >
> > > The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > way[color=darkred]
> > > to resolve my problem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the[/color][/color][/color]
methods[color=blue][color=green]
> > on[color=darkred]
> > > the derived class, then what's the big deal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is useful
> > > because for example
> > >
> > > I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
> > > Rectangle, and Line.
> > >
> > > If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on each
> > > derived class then I could do the next.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
> > >
> > > s.draw();
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question is[/color][/color]
> what[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple[/color][/color]
> Interfaces????[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > don't see too much
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > > Interfaces like they have a relation???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My Case:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my own
> > > Controls.
> > >
> > > For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I create and interface
> > >
> > > IVirtualSize
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It contain
> > >
> > > public getVirtualSize( );
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize and[/color]
> > that's[color=darkred]
> > > it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very nice!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint method;[/color][/color]
> this[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
> > > implement this entire logic on each Control???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> > > ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and[/color][/color][/color]
really[color=blue]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > have a nice source code, because my class ExtendedControl Funcionality[/color][/color]
> has[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > all the new extended functionality.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a[/color][/color]
> mess[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue]
> in[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that[/color][/color][/color]
means[color=blue]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me[/color]
> > because[color=darkred]
> > > OnPaintEx needs those.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of[/color][/color][/color]
source[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do[/color][/color]
> that.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
> > >
> > > Gustavo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Fergus Cooney]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Hi Kieran,

|| So just have a class that has private members of all those types.

I'm not sure how that would work.

|| Inheriting from all of the GUI classes does not make sense as
|| they are all functionally different.

That's exactly the point - disparate objects but which require a <common
Capability>. Franco would have a FrancoLabel which would inherit from Label
and CapCtrlExtensio ns, and a FrancoPanel - Panel and CapCtrlExtensio ns, etc,
etc.

Using the interface approach means that the code has to be duplicated in
each of the ingheriting classes. Using multiple inheritance means bolting the
Capability on. Write once, re-use - it's what OOP shouts from the rooftops.

Regards,
Fergus

[Franco Gustavo]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Yep, I tried that, but if you pass the control to a function on different
class (static or not static) then you can't get access to the protected
methods from the control.



Basically, My application is skinned, and I needed "true" transparent
controls.



Windows Problem

1) On Many controls you can't set Background like transparent,
(Color.Transpar ent)

2) Controls like GroupBox they capture the background wrong (if you have a
gradient background on the parent windows and the GroupBox is on the
position 50,50 then the background is capture from the Parent from the
position 0,0 which is wrong, because the GroupBox doesn't looks like
transparent in at all, has the gradient translated)

3) On the Controls that accept Color.Transpare nt, if you have a control on
Color.Transpare nt color and there is another control behind it (is not child
or parent, they have the same parent), Windows just capture the parent
Background which is wrong again, because you can't see the control that is
behind him.



So, what I did is inherit every control of windows, create my own BackBuffer
where I keep all my window status and changes, avoid call to
OnPaintBackgrou nd, and I take the process to draw the portion that windows
ask me to redraw with my own BackBuffer.



So, All this process is standard for every control and work really good,
then I can get "true" transparency and you don't see the difference on
performance.



But the code is ugly, because I have the same method implementation like 10
times!!!



Then the only that I need is consolidate my functionality on just one single
Class, Interface, Method or whatever I need.

On C++ if you do multi-inheritance then I can get what I'm looking for.



So, there is some way to emulate multi-inheritance on C#?????



I though interface was the answer. I see may be interface can't do too much
here, then some idea???



Thanks,

Gustavo.



P.S.: I think this is a very commun problem where you have to add
funcionality to thirdparty classes where you have to inherit from each one
of them and you have to share code for all of them.



"Anon" <Anon@Anon.Anon > wrote in message
news:7tyfb.2154 35$mp.133809@rw crnsc51.ops.asp .att.net...[color=blue]
> Can you implement the logic into a function (if VB) or static method in a
> class (VB or C#). Then for a control, implement your new interface and in
> the method of the implemented interface just pass the call onto the[/color]
function[color=blue]
> or shared method?
>
>
>
> "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> news:uSkgoXmiDH A.3660@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > But Control doesn't do anything that I want.
> >
> > Basically, I want derive from Label, Panel, GroupBox, CheckBox,[/color]
> RadioButton,[color=green]
> > etc. and add my extended funcionalities
> >
> > The Class control doesn't have any funcionality.
> >
> > On that case if I derived from Control I have to rewrite each windows
> > control from scratch wich is "not possible", doesn't make sense.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gustavo.
> >
> > "Sherif ElMetainy" <elmeteny.NOSPA M@wayout.net.NO SPAM> wrote in message
> > news:%23yrvKOmi DHA.1048@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance. But[/color]
> > your[color=darkred]
> > > problem can be solved by deriving the class[/color][/color][/color]
ExtendedControl Funcionality[color=blue][color=green]
> > from[color=darkred]
> > > Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Sherif
> > >
> > >
> > > "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> > > news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm[/color][/color]
> missing.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C#[/color][/color]
> doesn't[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve[/color][/color][/color]
my[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > problem with interfaces.
> > > >
> > > > The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find[/color][/color]
> the[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > way
> > > > to resolve my problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the[/color][/color]
> methods[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > on
> > > > the derived class, then what's the big deal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is[/color][/color][/color]
useful[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > because for example
> > > >
> > > > I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
> > > > Rectangle, and Line.
> > > >
> > > > If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on[/color][/color][/color]
each[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > derived class then I could do the next.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
> > > >
> > > > s.draw();
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question[/color][/color][/color]
is[color=blue][color=green]
> > what[color=darkred]
> > > > is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple[/color]
> > Interfaces????[color=darkred]
> > > I
> > > > don't see too much
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > > > Interfaces like they have a relation???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My Case:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my[/color][/color][/color]
own[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > Controls.
> > > >
> > > > For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I create and interface
> > > >
> > > > IVirtualSize
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It contain
> > > >
> > > > public getVirtualSize( );
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > that's
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very nice!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint[/color][/color][/color]
method;[color=blue][color=green]
> > this[color=darkred]
> > > > logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
> > > > implement this entire logic on each Control???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> > > > ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and[/color][/color]
> really[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > > have a nice source code, because my class[/color][/color][/color]
ExtendedControl Funcionality[color=blue][color=green]
> > has[color=darkred]
> > > > all the new extended functionality.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a[/color]
> > mess[color=darkred]
> > > > and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code[/color][/color]
> and[color=green]
> > in[color=darkred]
> > > > the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that[/color][/color]
> means[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > > want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me
> > > because
> > > > OnPaintEx needs those.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of[/color][/color]
> source[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do[/color]
> > that.[color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Gustavo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Fergus Cooney]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Hi Anon,

In this instance, the problem with off-loading the functionality to
another Class or Module and passing the target object in, is that it would not
have access to the target's protected and/or private members.

In any case, that is just one example that frustrates Franco - as a
general solution there would be many cases where it's a workable but messy.

In my main response to Franco, I mention a linked-list Capability that I
have had to implement using an Interface. This does actually work by sending
the object to a worker Class to traverse the list. The method works, but it
suffers because I have to make the actual link fields, Prev and Next, public,
as my worker needs access to them. There are also issues with casting and
type-safety. I can't prevent a programmer from inserting a Widget into a
linked list of Thingies. As I'm the programmer, that's not going to happen,
but I would prefer to have my carpets tacked down rather than watch my feet.

Regards,
Fergus

[Fergus Cooney]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Hi Franco,

I'm entirely in agreement with you on this issue. Yes, Interfaces have
their (many) uses. But so does multiple inheritance.

My case in point - I create many objects with a totally different nature.
But I want them all to be capable of being in a linked list. I don't want to
have to create a separate class to manage these links. I don't want a
collection or an ArrayList. I simply want a Next and a Prev and a couple of
other trivial bits.

I'd like to define a small linked-list Capability class which I bolt-on to
my other classes through multiple inheritance.

But I can't. :-((

My only recourse is to define an interface, CapLinkable, and <copy> the
code (it's perfectly generic - needs not even a single character to be
changed) into <every> class that is to have this Capability. [I only have this
in C# because I can do it in about 15 lines - in VB it would probably be about
75!!]

But it's a maintenance nightmare, for I cannot even do it with <include>
files - it has to be a textual copy each time!!

There are many small pieces of functionality that would work for many,
many disparate objects without code change required - or in your case, minimal
changes.

Another example is the ability to Serialise. This could be done through
the inheritance of Capabilities. But no, it has to be done by setting an
Attribute and having the serialization done behind the scenes as a fiddle by
the Attribute in conjunction with a Formatter. Why can't an object serialise
<itself> by inheriting from a CapSerializable Capability?

It would be very useful if there were a mechanism for bolting these
Capabilities onto a class without having to reimplement the wheel each time.

Regards,
Fergus

[Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Franco,
As Sherif stated, .NET does not have Multiple Implementation Inheritance,
one common method to get around this is to have an Implementation class
along with your interface. You would have an IShape interface along with a
ShapeImpl implementation class. Your Circle class would implement the IShape
interface, then contain a ShapeImpl object as a field, the IShape method
would delegate to the ShapeImple class. NOTE, Circle would NOT inherit from
ShapeImpl.

Have you considered using creating an Extender Provider class instead?

An Extender Provider is a class (can be either a Component or a Control)
that implements the System.Componen tModel.IExtende rProvider interface
allowing you to add new properties to controls. Along with these properties
you can attach event handlers to the targeted controls enabling you at add
functionality.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbcon/html/vbconextenderobjects.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpguide/html/cpconimplementingextenderprovider.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpguide/html/cpconwinformsextenderprovidersample.asp

Hope this helps
Jay


"Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
news:uSkgoXmiDH A.3660@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> But Control doesn't do anything that I want.
>
> Basically, I want derive from Label, Panel, GroupBox, CheckBox,[/color]
RadioButton,[color=blue]
> etc. and add my extended funcionalities
>
> The Class control doesn't have any funcionality.
>
> On that case if I derived from Control I have to rewrite each windows
> control from scratch wich is "not possible", doesn't make sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Gustavo.
>
> "Sherif ElMetainy" <elmeteny.NOSPA M@wayout.net.NO SPAM> wrote in message
> news:%23yrvKOmi DHA.1048@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > Hello
> >
> > Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance. But[/color]
> your[color=green]
> > problem can be solved by deriving the class ExtendedControl Funcionality[/color]
> from[color=green]
> > Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Sherif
> >
> >
> > "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> > news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm[/color][/color][/color]
missing.[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C#[/color][/color][/color]
doesn't[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve my
> > > problem with interfaces.
> > >
> > > The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > way[color=darkred]
> > > to resolve my problem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the[/color][/color][/color]
methods[color=blue][color=green]
> > on[color=darkred]
> > > the derived class, then what's the big deal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is useful
> > > because for example
> > >
> > > I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
> > > Rectangle, and Line.
> > >
> > > If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on each
> > > derived class then I could do the next.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
> > >
> > > s.draw();
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question is[/color][/color]
> what[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple[/color][/color]
> Interfaces????[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > don't see too much
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > > Interfaces like they have a relation???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My Case:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my own
> > > Controls.
> > >
> > > For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I create and interface
> > >
> > > IVirtualSize
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It contain
> > >
> > > public getVirtualSize( );
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize and[/color]
> > that's[color=darkred]
> > > it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very nice!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint method;[/color][/color]
> this[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
> > > implement this entire logic on each Control???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> > > ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and[/color][/color][/color]
really[color=blue]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > have a nice source code, because my class ExtendedControl Funcionality[/color][/color]
> has[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > all the new extended functionality.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a[/color][/color]
> mess[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue]
> in[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that[/color][/color][/color]
means[color=blue]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me[/color]
> > because[color=darkred]
> > > OnPaintEx needs those.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of[/color][/color][/color]
source[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do[/color][/color]
> that.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
> > >
> > > Gustavo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Franco Gustavo]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Exactly, You know perfect what I'm talking about.



In fact on my example all the base classes have a class in common,

"Control", and that is exactly what I need to change because all the OnPaint
and OnPaintBackgrou nd are coming from Control Object.



So is not crazy the idea that if I have Label, Panel, and GroupBox coming
from a common class "Control" have the possibilities to change the behavior
of the Base class.



And having this functionality still I think is good OOP



Thanks,

Gustavo.



"Fergus Cooney" <filter-1@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:%23iEGpYni DHA.2224@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> Hi Franco,
>
> I'm entirely in agreement with you on this issue. Yes, Interfaces have
> their (many) uses. But so does multiple inheritance.
>
> My case in point - I create many objects with a totally different[/color]
nature.[color=blue]
> But I want them all to be capable of being in a linked list. I don't want[/color]
to[color=blue]
> have to create a separate class to manage these links. I don't want a
> collection or an ArrayList. I simply want a Next and a Prev and a couple[/color]
of[color=blue]
> other trivial bits.
>
> I'd like to define a small linked-list Capability class which I[/color]
bolt-on to[color=blue]
> my other classes through multiple inheritance.
>
> But I can't. :-((
>
> My only recourse is to define an interface, CapLinkable, and <copy>[/color]
the[color=blue]
> code (it's perfectly generic - needs not even a single character to be
> changed) into <every> class that is to have this Capability. [I only have[/color]
this[color=blue]
> in C# because I can do it in about 15 lines - in VB it would probably be[/color]
about[color=blue]
> 75!!]
>
> But it's a maintenance nightmare, for I cannot even do it with[/color]
<include>[color=blue]
> files - it has to be a textual copy each time!!
>
> There are many small pieces of functionality that would work for many,
> many disparate objects without code change required - or in your case,[/color]
minimal[color=blue]
> changes.
>
> Another example is the ability to Serialise. This could be done[/color]
through[color=blue]
> the inheritance of Capabilities. But no, it has to be done by setting an
> Attribute and having the serialization done behind the scenes as a fiddle[/color]
by[color=blue]
> the Attribute in conjunction with a Formatter. Why can't an object[/color]
serialise[color=blue]
> <itself> by inheriting from a CapSerializable Capability?
>
> It would be very useful if there were a mechanism for bolting these
> Capabilities onto a class without having to reimplement the wheel each[/color]
time.[color=blue]
>
> Regards,
> Fergus
>
>[/color]

[Lloyd Dupont]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

I 100% agree Jay B. Harlow, It's my solution either.

let's speak about your transparency problem now, you have 2 things to set
(not one)
1. a transparent background color
2. SetStyle() there is a transparent flag.

now if you have a top panel which is transparent, and use .NET 1.1 all your
child control would be correctly transparent.

"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Jay_Harlow@ema il.msn.com> a écrit dans le
message de news:u20V6cniDH A.604@TK2MSFTNG P10.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Franco,
> As Sherif stated, .NET does not have Multiple Implementation Inheritance,
> one common method to get around this is to have an Implementation class
> along with your interface. You would have an IShape interface along with a
> ShapeImpl implementation class. Your Circle class would implement the[/color]
IShape[color=blue]
> interface, then contain a ShapeImpl object as a field, the IShape method
> would delegate to the ShapeImple class. NOTE, Circle would NOT inherit[/color]
from[color=blue]
> ShapeImpl.
>
> Have you considered using creating an Extender Provider class instead?
>
> An Extender Provider is a class (can be either a Component or a Control)
> that implements the System.Componen tModel.IExtende rProvider interface
> allowing you to add new properties to controls. Along with these[/color]
properties[color=blue]
> you can attach event handlers to the targeted controls enabling you at add
> functionality.
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...derobjects.asp[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...erprovider.asp[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...idersample.asp[color=blue]
>
> Hope this helps
> Jay
>
>
> "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> news:uSkgoXmiDH A.3660@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > But Control doesn't do anything that I want.
> >
> > Basically, I want derive from Label, Panel, GroupBox, CheckBox,[/color]
> RadioButton,[color=green]
> > etc. and add my extended funcionalities
> >
> > The Class control doesn't have any funcionality.
> >
> > On that case if I derived from Control I have to rewrite each windows
> > control from scratch wich is "not possible", doesn't make sense.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gustavo.
> >
> > "Sherif ElMetainy" <elmeteny.NOSPA M@wayout.net.NO SPAM> wrote in message
> > news:%23yrvKOmi DHA.1048@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance. But[/color]
> > your[color=darkred]
> > > problem can be solved by deriving the class[/color][/color][/color]
ExtendedControl Funcionality[color=blue][color=green]
> > from[color=darkred]
> > > Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Sherif
> > >
> > >
> > > "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> > > news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm[/color][/color]
> missing.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C#[/color][/color]
> doesn't[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve[/color][/color][/color]
my[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > problem with interfaces.
> > > >
> > > > The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find[/color][/color]
> the[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > way
> > > > to resolve my problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the[/color][/color]
> methods[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > on
> > > > the derived class, then what's the big deal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is[/color][/color][/color]
useful[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > because for example
> > > >
> > > > I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
> > > > Rectangle, and Line.
> > > >
> > > > If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on[/color][/color][/color]
each[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > derived class then I could do the next.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
> > > >
> > > > s.draw();
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question[/color][/color][/color]
is[color=blue][color=green]
> > what[color=darkred]
> > > > is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple[/color]
> > Interfaces????[color=darkred]
> > > I
> > > > don't see too much
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > > > Interfaces like they have a relation???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My Case:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my[/color][/color][/color]
own[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > Controls.
> > > >
> > > > For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I create and interface
> > > >
> > > > IVirtualSize
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It contain
> > > >
> > > > public getVirtualSize( );
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > that's
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very nice!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint[/color][/color][/color]
method;[color=blue][color=green]
> > this[color=darkred]
> > > > logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
> > > > implement this entire logic on each Control???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> > > > ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and[/color][/color]
> really[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > > have a nice source code, because my class[/color][/color][/color]
ExtendedControl Funcionality[color=blue][color=green]
> > has[color=darkred]
> > > > all the new extended functionality.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a[/color]
> > mess[color=darkred]
> > > > and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code[/color][/color]
> and[color=green]
> > in[color=darkred]
> > > > the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that[/color][/color]
> means[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > > want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me
> > > because
> > > > OnPaintEx needs those.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of[/color][/color]
> source[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do[/color]
> > that.[color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Gustavo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Franco Gustavo]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

> As Sherif stated, .NET does not have Multiple Implementation Inheritance,[color=blue]
> one common method to get around this is to have an Implementation class
> along with your interface. You would have an IShape interface along with a
> ShapeImpl implementation class. Your Circle class would implement the[/color]
IShape[color=blue]
> interface, then contain a ShapeImpl object as a field, the IShape method
> would delegate to the ShapeImple class. NOTE, Circle would NOT inherit[/color]
from[color=blue]
> ShapeImpl.[/color]

Ok, I see, on this case Interface and Implementation are coming on couple
and I have just one implementation for my code.
But still I don't see how ShapeImpl will access to my protected methods and
private variables from Circle because is a object into the Circle object.
[color=blue]
> Have you considered using creating an Extender Provider class instead?
>
> An Extender Provider is a class (can be either a Component or a Control)
> that implements the System.Componen tModel.IExtende rProvider interface
> allowing you to add new properties to controls. Along with these[/color]
properties[color=blue]
> you can attach event handlers to the targeted controls enabling you at add
> functionality.[/color]

I didn't know about that and how it works, I'll read that and try a shot.

Thanks very much,
Gustavo.


"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Jay_Harlow@ema il.msn.com> wrote in message
news:u20V6cniDH A.604@TK2MSFTNG P10.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Franco,
> As Sherif stated, .NET does not have Multiple Implementation Inheritance,
> one common method to get around this is to have an Implementation class
> along with your interface. You would have an IShape interface along with a
> ShapeImpl implementation class. Your Circle class would implement the[/color]
IShape[color=blue]
> interface, then contain a ShapeImpl object as a field, the IShape method
> would delegate to the ShapeImple class. NOTE, Circle would NOT inherit[/color]
from[color=blue]
> ShapeImpl.
>
> Have you considered using creating an Extender Provider class instead?
>
> An Extender Provider is a class (can be either a Component or a Control)
> that implements the System.Componen tModel.IExtende rProvider interface
> allowing you to add new properties to controls. Along with these[/color]
properties[color=blue]
> you can attach event handlers to the targeted controls enabling you at add
> functionality.
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...derobjects.asp[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...erprovider.asp[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...idersample.asp[color=blue]
>
> Hope this helps
> Jay
>
>
> "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> news:uSkgoXmiDH A.3660@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > But Control doesn't do anything that I want.
> >
> > Basically, I want derive from Label, Panel, GroupBox, CheckBox,[/color]
> RadioButton,[color=green]
> > etc. and add my extended funcionalities
> >
> > The Class control doesn't have any funcionality.
> >
> > On that case if I derived from Control I have to rewrite each windows
> > control from scratch wich is "not possible", doesn't make sense.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gustavo.
> >
> > "Sherif ElMetainy" <elmeteny.NOSPA M@wayout.net.NO SPAM> wrote in message
> > news:%23yrvKOmi DHA.1048@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance. But[/color]
> > your[color=darkred]
> > > problem can be solved by deriving the class[/color][/color][/color]
ExtendedControl Funcionality[color=blue][color=green]
> > from[color=darkred]
> > > Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Sherif
> > >
> > >
> > > "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> > > news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm[/color][/color]
> missing.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C#[/color][/color]
> doesn't[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I resolve[/color][/color][/color]
my[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > problem with interfaces.
> > > >
> > > > The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't find[/color][/color]
> the[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > way
> > > > to resolve my problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the[/color][/color]
> methods[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > on
> > > > the derived class, then what's the big deal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is[/color][/color][/color]
useful[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > because for example
> > > >
> > > > I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called Circle,
> > > > Rectangle, and Line.
> > > >
> > > > If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on[/color][/color][/color]
each[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > derived class then I could do the next.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
> > > >
> > > > s.draw();
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question[/color][/color][/color]
is[color=blue][color=green]
> > what[color=darkred]
> > > > is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple[/color]
> > Interfaces????[color=darkred]
> > > I
> > > > don't see too much
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > > > Interfaces like they have a relation???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My Case:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my[/color][/color][/color]
own[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > Controls.
> > > >
> > > > For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I create and interface
> > > >
> > > > IVirtualSize
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It contain
> > > >
> > > > public getVirtualSize( );
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > that's
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very nice!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint[/color][/color][/color]
method;[color=blue][color=green]
> > this[color=darkred]
> > > > logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have to
> > > > implement this entire logic on each Control???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> > > > ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and[/color][/color]
> really[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > > have a nice source code, because my class[/color][/color][/color]
ExtendedControl Funcionality[color=blue][color=green]
> > has[color=darkred]
> > > > all the new extended functionality.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is a[/color]
> > mess[color=darkred]
> > > > and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source code[/color][/color]
> and[color=green]
> > in[color=darkred]
> > > > the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that[/color][/color]
> means[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > > want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to me
> > > because
> > > > OnPaintEx needs those.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of[/color][/color]
> source[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to do[/color]
> > that.[color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Gustavo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Franco Gustavo]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Wow, do they fixed??

I'm using 1.0 and I set for my controls

this.SetStyle(C ontrolStyles.Al lPaintingInWmPa int, true);
this.SetStyle(C ontrolStyles.Us erPaint, true);
this.SetStyle(C ontrolStyles.Op aque, true);

And doing all the logic.

So, that means if I use VS2003 wich compile with 1.1 can I :
Create a Form, put a Background Image on the Form
Create a Panel and set Color.Transpare ncy like a child of the Form
Create a Radio button like Child of Panel

And the background for the radio button will be the form Backgorund????? ???

May you confirm that? if that's true is a excelent news and I'll switch to
VS2003 the soon as possible

Thanks,
Gustavo.

"Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld > wrote in message
news:%23Eytsini DHA.560@tk2msft ngp13.phx.gbl.. .[color=blue]
> I 100% agree Jay B. Harlow, It's my solution either.
>
> let's speak about your transparency problem now, you have 2 things to set
> (not one)
> 1. a transparent background color
> 2. SetStyle() there is a transparent flag.
>
> now if you have a top panel which is transparent, and use .NET 1.1 all[/color]
your[color=blue]
> child control would be correctly transparent.
>
> "Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Jay_Harlow@ema il.msn.com> a écrit dans le
> message de news:u20V6cniDH A.604@TK2MSFTNG P10.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Franco,
> > As Sherif stated, .NET does not have Multiple Implementation[/color][/color]
Inheritance,[color=blue][color=green]
> > one common method to get around this is to have an Implementation class
> > along with your interface. You would have an IShape interface along with[/color][/color]
a[color=blue][color=green]
> > ShapeImpl implementation class. Your Circle class would implement the[/color]
> IShape[color=green]
> > interface, then contain a ShapeImpl object as a field, the IShape method
> > would delegate to the ShapeImple class. NOTE, Circle would NOT inherit[/color]
> from[color=green]
> > ShapeImpl.
> >
> > Have you considered using creating an Extender Provider class instead?
> >
> > An Extender Provider is a class (can be either a Component or a Control)
> > that implements the System.Componen tModel.IExtende rProvider interface
> > allowing you to add new properties to controls. Along with these[/color]
> properties[color=green]
> > you can attach event handlers to the targeted controls enabling you at[/color][/color]
add[color=blue][color=green]
> > functionality.
> >
> >[/color]
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...derobjects.asp[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> >[/color]
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...erprovider.asp[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> >[/color]
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...idersample.asp[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > Jay
> >
> >
> > "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> > news:uSkgoXmiDH A.3660@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > But Control doesn't do anything that I want.
> > >
> > > Basically, I want derive from Label, Panel, GroupBox, CheckBox,[/color]
> > RadioButton,[color=darkred]
> > > etc. and add my extended funcionalities
> > >
> > > The Class control doesn't have any funcionality.
> > >
> > > On that case if I derived from Control I have to rewrite each windows
> > > control from scratch wich is "not possible", doesn't make sense.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gustavo.
> > >
> > > "Sherif ElMetainy" <elmeteny.NOSPA M@wayout.net.NO SPAM> wrote in[/color][/color][/color]
message[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > news:%23yrvKOmi DHA.1048@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > > Unlike C++, C# doesn't support multiple implementaion inheritance.[/color][/color][/color]
But[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > your
> > > > problem can be solved by deriving the class[/color][/color]
> ExtendedControl Funcionality[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > from
> > > > Control and deriving your class from ExtendedControl Funcionality.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Sherif
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Franco Gustavo" <gfranco@inunti us.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:#hz4qCmiDH A.1564@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please help me to understand this, because I don't see what I'm[/color]
> > missing.[color=darkred]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was reading a lot of examples on Internet that explain that C#[/color]
> > doesn't[color=darkred]
> > > > > implement multiple inheritance it implement multiple interfaces.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I keep reading and reading and reading to see how can I[/color][/color][/color]
resolve[color=blue]
> my[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > problem with interfaces.
> > > > >
> > > > > The conclusion is I'm writing to all of you because I couldn't[/color][/color][/color]
find[color=blue][color=green]
> > the[color=darkred]
> > > > way
> > > > > to resolve my problem.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If I can create multiples interfaces and I have to implement the[/color]
> > methods[color=darkred]
> > > > on
> > > > > the derived class, then what's the big deal.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I know if I declare a class that inherit from one interface is[/color][/color]
> useful[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > because for example
> > > > >
> > > > > I can create an Interface called Shape, and 3 Classes called[/color][/color][/color]
Circle,[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > Rectangle, and Line.
> > > > >
> > > > > If on my interface I declare my method Draw(); and I implement on[/color][/color]
> each[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > derived class then I could do the next.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > IShape s = (IShape) AnyShapeObject;
> > > > >
> > > > > s.draw();
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think is very useful and I used many times. But now the question[/color][/color]
> is[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > what
> > > > > is the similitude between Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > > Interfaces????
> > > > I
> > > > > don't see too much
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why on Internet always speak for Multiple Inheritance and Multiple
> > > > > Interfaces like they have a relation???
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My Case:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have many Windows Control and I'm inherit each one for create my[/color][/color]
> own[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > Controls.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example I want to add method called getVirtualSize( );
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I create and interface
> > > > >
> > > > > IVirtualSize
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It contain
> > > > >
> > > > > public getVirtualSize( );
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So, on my derived class I MUST implement my method getVirtualSize[/color][/color]
> and[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > that's
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Very nice!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now the real question is, I create a lot of logic on my paint[/color][/color]
> method;[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > this
> > > > > logic is exactly the same for all derived classes, why do I have[/color][/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > implement this entire logic on each Control???
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > With multiple inheritances you just create a class
> > > > > ExtendedControl Funcionality and Implement a method OnPaintEx, and[/color]
> > really[color=darkred]
> > > I
> > > > > have a nice source code, because my class[/color][/color]
> ExtendedControl Funcionality[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > has
> > > > > all the new extended functionality.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Then how can I do the same with interfaces????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't want to put my piece of code on every derived class, it is[/color][/color][/color]
a[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > mess
> > > > > and very difficult to maintain, I want to centralize my source[/color][/color][/color]
code[color=blue][color=green]
> > and[color=darkred]
> > > in
> > > > > the same time I want to use many methods of the base classes, that[/color]
> > means[color=darkred]
> > > I
> > > > > want to use all the protected methods that the controls offer to[/color][/color][/color]
me[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > because
> > > > > OnPaintEx needs those.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Really, here is only one example, the reality is that is a lot of[/color]
> > source[color=darkred]
> > > > > code that I "should" implement on every Control, I don't want to[/color][/color][/color]
do[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, the answers will be really appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gustavo.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Rick]

Re: Interfaces, Big Deal!!

Check out the "decorator pattern". That might be what you're looking for
(at least how I interpretted your question)

Rick