windos is too controlling

**Wayne Throop** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Re: It's a Good Thing .

:: Only a Windows devotee would actually _ Brag _ about having to reboot
:: their machine on a regular basis

: It's very rare for me to cash , and when I do , It's usually due to high
: activity over a long time . ( Which is a sign that the system isuseful . )

Only a Windows devotee would actually suppose resource leakage
under stress is only to be expected as a sign of useful activity.

Well, not quite, but it *is* true that windows users are
the only people *I've* heard of that seem to think so.

**Jeff Relf** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

Linux Never Crashes ?!

Hi Wayne ,
You say :
" Only a Windows devotee would actually suppose
resource leakage under stress is only to be expected
as a sign of useful activity . "

My low cost ISP is running Linux ...

And it crashes fairly often .

Why do you think that is ?

**Peter Köhlmann** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

Re: Linux Never Crashes ?!

Jeff Relf wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi Wayne ,
> You say :
> " Only a Windows devotee would actually suppose
> resource leakage under stress is only to be expected
> as a sign of useful activity . "
>
>
> My low cost ISP is running Linux ...
>
> And it crashes fairly often .
>
>
> Why do you think that is ?[/color]

Lets guess: You are lying?
--
Microsoft's Guide To System Design:
Let it get in YOUR way. The problem for your problem.

**TCS** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

Re: Linux Never Crashes ?!

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:58:55 -0700, Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET > wrote:[color=blue]
>Hi Wayne ,
> You say :
> " Only a Windows devotee would actually suppose
> resource leakage under stress is only to be expected
> as a sign of useful activity . "[/color]

[color=blue]
>My low cost ISP is running Linux ...[/color]
[color=blue]
> And it crashes fairly often .[/color]

[color=blue]
>Why do you think that is ?[/color]

They're idiots. Thousands of ISPs run linux for years without any crashes.
My previous ISP is still running redhat 4.2.

**Jeff Relf** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

TCS is a Space Cadet .

Hi TCS ,
You say :
" Thousands of ISPs
run linux for years without any crashes . "

I don't know what planet you're currently orbiting ,
But I'm quite sure that my super cheap ISP crashes ...
I've talked to these guys .

Why does it crash so much ?

Because it gets a real workout , That's why .

**TCS** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

Re: TCS is a Space Cadet .

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:02:40 -0700, Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET > wrote:[color=blue]
>Hi TCS ,
> You say :
> " Thousands of ISPs
> run linux for years without any crashes . "[/color]

[color=blue]
>I don't know what planet you're currently orbiting ,
> But I'm quite sure that my super cheap ISP crashes ...
> I've talked to these guys .[/color]
[color=blue]
>Why does it crash so much ?[/color]
[color=blue]
>Because it gets a real workout , That's why .[/color]

You're a loon.

<plonk>

**Stephen Edwards** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

Re: It's a Good Thing .

Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET > orally extracted the following in
news:fkg0rd89z8 mv.dlg@__.Jeff. Relf:
[color=blue]
> Hi Stephen ,
> You say :
> " Only a Windows devotee would actually _ Brag _ about
> having to reboot their machine on a regular basis . "
>
>
> It's very rare for me to cash , and when I do ,[/color]
^^^^
I cash every two weeks. However, I never crash. :-)
[color=blue]
> It's usually due to high activity over a long time .
> ( Which is a sign that the system is useful . )[/color]

I won't deny that Windows can be useful, and rebooting for most
home users isn't really a big deal, I'll grant you that.

But you have to understand, my background in computing tells me
that *having* to reboot at all, just to solve problems like hung
processes, or interface glitches is just impractical and shouldn't
be necessary in the first place.
[color=blue]
> I shutdown often ... It's a good thing .[/color]

Actually, shutting down and powering back up on a daily basis
causes more wear and tear on your hardware, and it's harder
on your motherboard.

JSYK.
--
while ((remote_users == "GUI-dependent PeeCee/Macintrash monkeys") == 0) {
strcpy (myusername, "01100001 01101110 01100001 01101101"); // decode
strcat (myusername, " 01101111 01110010 01110000 01101000"); // to ASCII
} // %hostname="extr emezone.com"; cat whining | apathy > /dev/null; logout

**Stephen Edwards** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

Re: Linux Never Crashes ?!

Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET > orally extracted the following in
news:1jsjx6s0t4 vm4$.dlg@__.Jef f.Relf:
[color=blue]
> Hi Wayne ,
> You say :
> " Only a Windows devotee would actually suppose
> resource leakage under stress is only to be expected
> as a sign of useful activity . "
>
>
> My low cost ISP is running Linux ...
>
> And it crashes fairly often .
>
>
> Why do you think that is ?[/color]

Please describe the problem, and perhaps we can help you resolve it.
--
while ((remote_users == "GUI-dependent PeeCee/Macintrash monkeys") == 0) {
strcpy (myusername, "01100001 01101110 01100001 01101101"); // decode
strcat (myusername, " 01101111 01110010 01110000 01101000"); // to ASCII
} // %hostname="extr emezone.com"; cat whining | apathy > /dev/null; logout

**Wayne Throop** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

Re: Linux Never Crashes ?!

:: " Only a Windows devotee would actually suppose resource leakage
:: under stress is only to be expected as a sign of useful activity . "

: Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET >
: My low cost ISP is running Linux ...
: And it crashes fairly often .
: Why do you think that is ?

Well, having only the information you give to go on, I'd first look at
whether too many corners were cut to acheive this "low cost". I
wouldn't expect it to be resource leakage, such as that so many people
associate with windows. Hopefully the difference between resource
leakage and insufficient resources to start with is clear to you.

**jbailo** · Jul 21 '05, 08:55 AM

Re: Linux Never Crashes ?!

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 05:32:08 +0000, Stephen Edwards wrote:
[color=blue]
> Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET > orally extracted the following in
> news:1jsjx6s0t4 vm4$.dlg@__.Jef f.Relf:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Why do you think that is ?[/color]
>
> Please describe the problem, and perhaps we can help you resolve it.[/color]

Problem: Jeff is a dyed in the wool
winTroll who can't kiss BG's hindquarters
often enough.

**Jeff Relf** · Jul 21 '05, 08:56 AM

Sewer Gators ?

Hi Stephen ,
You say :
" Actually ,
shutting down and powering back up on a daily basis
causes more wear and tear on your hardware ,
and it's harder on your motherboard . "

Yea , And alligators live in the sewer too .

I've been turning this same computer on and off
several times per day , for about seven years now .

I've even overclocked the CPU ...

Everything still works great .

**Stephen Edwards** · Jul 21 '05, 08:56 AM

Re: Sewer Gators ?

Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET > orally extracted the following in
news:2npgnz5bka t0$.dlg@__.Jeff .Relf:
[color=blue]
> Hi Stephen ,
> You say :
> " Actually ,
> shutting down and powering back up on a daily basis
> causes more wear and tear on your hardware ,
> and it's harder on your motherboard . "
>
>
> Yea , And alligators live in the sewer too .
>
> I've been turning this same computer on and off
> several times per day , for about seven years now .[/color]

Interesting. I have an Alpha box that hasn't been shut off
for over a year now. It seems like it would be odd to do
what you do.

Of course, my workstations aren't toys, so...
[color=blue]
> I've even overclocked the CPU ...[/color]

Gawd... he's l33t.
[color=blue]
> Everything still works great .[/color]

I didn't say doing what you do will cause the thing to start spitting
sparks and smoke. I merely said that it will, in fact, reduce the
lifespan of your PC.

*sigh* There just isn't any reasoning with lusers.
--
while ((remote_users == "GUI-dependent PeeCee/Macintrash monkeys") == 0) {
strcpy (myusername, "01100001 01101110 01100001 01101101"); // decode
strcat (myusername, " 01101111 01110010 01110000 01101000"); // to ASCII
} // %hostname="extr emezone.com"; cat whining | apathy > /dev/null; logout

**flatfish+++@linux+++mail.org** · Jul 21 '05, 08:57 AM

Re: Sewer Gators ?

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:57:25 -0700, Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET >
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hi Stephen ,
> You say :
> " Actually ,
> shutting down and powering back up on a daily basis
> causes more wear and tear on your hardware ,
> and it's harder on your motherboard . "
>
>
>Yea , And alligators live in the sewer too .[/color]

Maybe not the sewers, but this idiot was trying to keep one in his
apartment as a pet.
Oh yea, he had a 400lb Bengal tiger as well.

http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynamic/stories/T/TIGER_CAUGHT?SITE=NYNYP&SECTION=HOME

**Jekke, Just Jekke** · Jul 21 '05, 08:58 AM

Re: Sewer Gators ?

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:57:25 -0700, Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET >
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hi Stephen ,
> You say :
> " Actually ,
> shutting down and powering back up on a daily basis
> causes more wear and tear on your hardware ,
> and it's harder on your motherboard . "
>
>
>Yea , And alligators live in the sewer too .
>
>I've been turning this same computer on and off
> several times per day , for about seven years now .
>
>I've even overclocked the CPU ...[/color]

You would have to. It can't be more than a P5-100 if it's that old.

**Paul Hovnanian P.E.** · Jul 21 '05, 08:58 AM

Re: Linux user needs a brain (was: windos is too controlling)

Eregreat The Spanker wrote:[color=blue]
>[/color]
[snip]
[color=blue]
> Shut the fuck up, douchebag.[/color]

Oh oh. Resorting to bad language. I smell fear in the Microsoft fan
club.
--
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