windos is too controlling

**Bill Gates's Son** · Jul 21 '05, 08:53 AM

Re: windos is too controlling

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MY DAD
"john bailo" <jabailo@earthl ink.net> wrote in message
news:974e86b71b 9770cbf8ab824ef 5318149@news.te ranews.com...[color=blue]
>
> I just noticed something since i upgraded one of my two
> gateway celerons at work to rh9.
>
> with windos, if i press the on/off button, it goes into a
> windows shutdown. or, more likely, it locks up the system.
> half the time, when windos locks up on me, i have to pull
> the cord from the back of it, and restart.
>
> with my rh90 machine, the on/off button does what it's
> suppose to do. turn the machine on and off.
>
> can't Bill Gates understand that? Is he so old
> and greedy, that every light switch has to be
> branded with his stamp? Is he such a Scrooge that
> he has to covet the BIOS and put it under his
> Constitutionall y illegal umbrella?
>
> What makes people old and greedy like that????[/color]

**wjbell** · Jul 21 '05, 08:53 AM

Re: Linux user needs a brain (was: windos is too controlling)

john bailo wrote:[color=blue]
> I just noticed something since i upgraded one of my two
> gateway celerons at work to rh9.
>
> with windos, if i press the on/off button, it goes into a
> windows shutdown. or, more likely, it locks up the system.
> half the time, when windos locks up on me, i have to pull
> the cord from the back of it, and restart.[/color]

Stop buying Emachines, then.
[color=blue]
>
> with my rh90 machine, the on/off button does what it's
> suppose to do. turn the machine on and off.[/color]

Guess what, Columbo, with windows you can assign what the button
does; turn the machine off, put it in standby, shutdown gracefully, etc.
[color=blue]
>
> can't Bill Gates understand that? Is he so old
> and greedy, that every light switch has to be
> branded with his stamp?[/color]

It called convenience.

: Is he such a Scrooge that[color=blue]
> he has to covet the BIOS and put it under his
> Constitutionall y illegal umbrella?
>
> What makes people old and greedy like that????[/color]

Using antiquated OS's like linux!!!!

**William Ryan** · Jul 21 '05, 08:53 AM

Re: windos is too controlling

Do you have a specific question that can be addressed in this newsgroup?
You may hate windows/Gates etc, but many of use make our living from MS
Software, and some of us, even write .NET apps for Linux. These newsgroups
are for those people. BTW, and I'm not name calling, but coming ot a MS
newsgroup with no real question or point, makes you look like a typical know
it all CS freshman who's listened to his professor rant about MS and while
real programmers unfairly make so much more than disgruntled college profs
(not saying they all are, but there is definitely that contingency).
"john bailo" <jabailo@earthl ink.net> wrote in message
news:974e86b71b 9770cbf8ab824ef 5318149@news.te ranews.com...[color=blue]
>
> I just noticed something since i upgraded one of my two
> gateway celerons at work to rh9.
>
> with windos, if i press the on/off button, it goes into a
> windows shutdown. or, more likely, it locks up the system.
> half the time, when windos locks up on me, i have to pull
> the cord from the back of it, and restart.
>
> with my rh90 machine, the on/off button does what it's
> suppose to do. turn the machine on and off.
>
> can't Bill Gates understand that? Is he so old
> and greedy, that every light switch has to be
> branded with his stamp? Is he such a Scrooge that
> he has to covet the BIOS and put it under his
> Constitutionall y illegal umbrella?
>
> What makes people old and greedy like that????[/color]

**Liam Slider** · Jul 21 '05, 08:53 AM

Re: windos is too controlling

William Ryan wrote:[color=blue]
> Do you have a specific question that can be addressed in this newsgroup?
> You may hate windows/Gates etc, but many of use make our living from MS
> Software, and some of us, even write .NET apps for Linux. These newsgroups
> are for those people. BTW, and I'm not name calling, but coming ot a MS
> newsgroup with no real question or point, makes you look like a typical know
> it all CS freshman who's listened to his professor rant about MS and while
> real programmers unfairly make so much more than disgruntled college profs
> (not saying they all are, but there is definitely that contingency).[/color]

You know, your Mafiasoft newsgroup may be for specific questions, but
you don't have to have a question to post in COLA. And discussing the
differences between Linux and Windows, and why Linux is superior, is
entirely on topic for COLA.

BTW, learn to post correctly.

--
"Sure, the lion is king of the jungle - but airdrop him into Antarctica,
and he's just a penguin's bitch." -- Dennis Miller

**William Ryan** · Jul 21 '05, 08:53 AM

Re: windos is too controlling

I wasn't the one that cross posted to multiple newsgroups
which, in most circles is poor etiquette.

For the record, I like the 'MafiaSoft' quip. I'm not a
blind partisan by any means....I've worked with Berkeley
since grad school ('93, back when the only 'cool'
argument was Mac vs. Windows, back when Unix wasn't even
recognized by 99% of the user community). I'll totally
agree that once you learn it, X and X based systems are
superb as servers. As a matter of fact, I'm writing you
from a 9.0 box.

But professionalism is professionalism and the whole tone
of old boy's post was little league. If he has a rant,
so be it. Rants are welcome here too, if they have a
point. But cmon, even a 3:33t k0dr would have to agree
that it was a little leager's post. From your point of
view... are you possibly going to defend that X is better
than Windows because of the f******g start button? That
has to be the most trivial difference one could come up
with. Moreoever, that post was put on a MS Site and a
Linux site precisely to start trouble, not engage in
serious discussion. I don't think you can argue
otherwise.

Customers, you know, those people who ultimately pay our
salaries, could care less about these debates as long as
the software works. And people write a lot of good, and
crappy software on all OS. REAL PROGRAMMERS get stuff
done on any OS, with any toolset, END OF STORY. They can
write quality code in any langauge, and if they don't
know it, they learn it, and learn it well.

To ignore MS, or to ignore X is foolish, and at least I'm
honest enough to admit it.
[color=blue]
>-----Original Message-----
>William Ryan wrote:[color=green]
>> Do you have a specific question that can be addressed[/color][/color]
in this newsgroup?[color=blue][color=green]
>> You may hate windows/Gates etc, but many of use make[/color][/color]
our living from MS[color=blue][color=green]
>> Software, and some of us, even write .NET apps for[/color][/color]
Linux. These newsgroups[color=blue][color=green]
>> are for those people. BTW, and I'm not name calling,[/color][/color]
but coming ot a MS[color=blue][color=green]
>> newsgroup with no real question or point, makes you[/color][/color]
look like a typical know[color=blue][color=green]
>> it all CS freshman who's listened to his professor[/color][/color]
rant about MS and while[color=blue][color=green]
>> real programmers unfairly make so much more than[/color][/color]
disgruntled college profs[color=blue][color=green]
>> (not saying they all are, but there is definitely that[/color][/color]
contingency).[color=blue]
>
>You know, your Mafiasoft newsgroup may be for specific[/color]
questions, but[color=blue]
>you don't have to have a question to post in COLA. And[/color]
discussing the[color=blue]
>differences between Linux and Windows, and why Linux is[/color]
superior, is[color=blue]
>entirely on topic for COLA.
>
>BTW, learn to post correctly.
>
>--
>"Sure, the lion is king of the jungle - but airdrop him[/color]
into Antarctica,[color=blue]
>and he's just a penguin's bitch." -- Dennis Miller
>
>.
>[/color]

**Paul Hovnanian P.E.** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Re: Linux user needs a brain (was: windos is too controlling)

wjbell wrote:[color=blue]
>
> john bailo wrote:[color=green]
> > I just noticed something since i upgraded one of my two
> > gateway celerons at work to rh9.
> >
> > with windos, if i press the on/off button, it goes into a
> > windows shutdown. or, more likely, it locks up the system.
> > half the time, when windos locks up on me, i have to pull
> > the cord from the back of it, and restart.[/color]
>
> Stop buying Emachines, then.
>[color=green]
> >
> > with my rh90 machine, the on/off button does what it's
> > suppose to do. turn the machine on and off.[/color]
>
> Guess what, Columbo, with windows you can assign what the button
> does; turn the machine off, put it in standby, shutdown gracefully, etc.[/color]

Same with linux. It just comes set to a different default. Its also
intended for a more sophisticated user. If you need something thats easy
to use, buy an Apple.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > can't Bill Gates understand that? Is he so old
> > and greedy, that every light switch has to be
> > branded with his stamp?[/color]
>
> It called convenience.[/color]

In other words, stop struggling and drink the Kool-Aid.
[color=blue]
> : Is he such a Scrooge that[color=green]
> > he has to covet the BIOS and put it under his
> > Constitutionall y illegal umbrella?
> >
> > What makes people old and greedy like that????[/color]
>
> Using antiquated OS's like linux!!!![/color]

Having to reinvent technology in order to satisfy a demand for novelty
doesn't always lead to product improvements. When the first wheel was
invented it was made round. If the marketing department wants a
different shape, fine. Odds are that it won't work as well.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hov nanian.com
note to spammers: a Washington State resident
------------------------------------------------------------------
Life is like an analogy.

**Peter van der Goes** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Re: windos is too controlling

"john bailo" <jabailo@earthl ink.net> wrote in message
news:974e86b71b 9770cbf8ab824ef 5318149@news.te ranews.com...[color=blue]
>
> I just noticed something since i upgraded one of my two
> gateway celerons at work to rh9.
>
> with windos, if i press the on/off button, it goes into a
> windows shutdown. or, more likely, it locks up the system.
> half the time, when windos locks up on me, i have to pull
> the cord from the back of it, and restart.
>
> with my rh90 machine, the on/off button does what it's
> suppose to do. turn the machine on and off.
>
> can't Bill Gates understand that? Is he so old
> and greedy, that every light switch has to be
> branded with his stamp? Is he such a Scrooge that
> he has to covet the BIOS and put it under his
> Constitutionall y illegal umbrella?
>
> What makes people old and greedy like that????[/color]

The only thing you've exposed here is your own ignorance and prejudice.
Go away.

**Eregreat The Spanker** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Another proof that linux lusers are nothing but a bunch of ignorant and incompetent morons

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:18:39 GMT, "john bailo" <jabailo@earthl ink.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>I just noticed something since i upgraded one of my two
>gateway celerons at work to rh9.
>
>with windos, if i press the on/off button, it goes into a
>windows shutdown. or, more likely, it locks up the system.
>half the time, when windos locks up on me, i have to pull
>the cord from the back of it, and restart.
>
>with my rh90 machine, the on/off button does what it's
>suppose to do. turn the machine on and off.
>
>can't Bill Gates understand that? Is he so old
>and greedy, that every light switch has to be
>branded with his stamp? Is he such a Scrooge that
>he has to covet the BIOS and put it under his
>Constitutional ly illegal umbrella?
>
>What makes people old and greedy like that????[/color]

Incredible demonstration proving that linux lusers are stupid.

1. Bill Gates doesn't make the software, nor even care, he collects the
money that you linucks crack heads are drooling over and disappointed to
see it go to Microsoft instead your lame garage business linux
distribution vendors, run by incompetent fools and high school
teenagers.

2. You can control exactly what the power button does in your control
panel power.

You stupid linux whore crack head.

**Eregreat The Spanker** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Re: windos is too controlling

John Bailo is a known linux troll, he infests many groups with his
stupid linux advocacy crap.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:54:36 -0400, "William Ryan"
<dotnetguru@nos pam.comcast.net > wrote:
[color=blue]
>Do you have a specific question that can be addressed in this newsgroup?
>You may hate windows/Gates etc, but many of use make our living from MS
>Software, and some of us, even write .NET apps for Linux. These newsgroups
>are for those people. BTW, and I'm not name calling, but coming ot a MS
>newsgroup with no real question or point, makes you look like a typical know
>it all CS freshman who's listened to his professor rant about MS and while
>real programmers unfairly make so much more than disgruntled college profs
>(not saying they all are, but there is definitely that contingency).
>"john bailo" <jabailo@earthl ink.net> wrote in message
>news:974e86b71 b9770cbf8ab824e f5318149@news.t eranews.com...[color=green]
>>
>> I just noticed something since i upgraded one of my two
>> gateway celerons at work to rh9.
>>
>> with windos, if i press the on/off button, it goes into a
>> windows shutdown. or, more likely, it locks up the system.
>> half the time, when windos locks up on me, i have to pull
>> the cord from the back of it, and restart.
>>
>> with my rh90 machine, the on/off button does what it's
>> suppose to do. turn the machine on and off.
>>
>> can't Bill Gates understand that? Is he so old
>> and greedy, that every light switch has to be
>> branded with his stamp? Is he such a Scrooge that
>> he has to covet the BIOS and put it under his
>> Constitutionall y illegal umbrella?
>>
>> What makes people old and greedy like that????[/color]
>[/color]

**Eregreat The Spanker** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Re: windos is too controlling

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:04:18 -0500, Liam Slider
<liam@NOSPAM.li amslider.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>William Ryan wrote:[color=green]
>> Do you have a specific question that can be addressed in this newsgroup?
>> You may hate windows/Gates etc, but many of use make our living from MS
>> Software, and some of us, even write .NET apps for Linux. These newsgroups
>> are for those people. BTW, and I'm not name calling, but coming ot a MS
>> newsgroup with no real question or point, makes you look like a typical know
>> it all CS freshman who's listened to his professor rant about MS and while
>> real programmers unfairly make so much more than disgruntled college profs
>> (not saying they all are, but there is definitely that contingency).[/color]
>
>You know, your Mafiasoft newsgroup may be for specific questions, but
>you don't have to have a question to post in COLA. And discussing the
>differences between Linux and Windows, and why Linux is superior, is
>entirely on topic for COLA.[/color]

Fuck COLA, nobody cares about your shitty linux and shitty newsgroup.
You linux trolls are trashed everywhere because of your trolling and
self-righteous crap.
Go flame your linux faggot colleague, he cross posted to non advocacy
group whining about his windows box, showing how stupid and incompetent
he is.

[color=blue]
>BTW, learn to post correctly.[/color]

Follow your own advice, shit brick.

Fuck you too.

**Eregreat The Spanker** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Re: Linux user needs a brain (was: windos is too controlling)

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:25:43 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<Paul@Hovnanian .com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>wjbell wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> john bailo wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > I just noticed something since i upgraded one of my two
>> > gateway celerons at work to rh9.
>> >
>> > with windos, if i press the on/off button, it goes into a
>> > windows shutdown. or, more likely, it locks up the system.
>> > half the time, when windos locks up on me, i have to pull
>> > the cord from the back of it, and restart.[/color]
>>
>> Stop buying Emachines, then.
>>[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > with my rh90 machine, the on/off button does what it's
>> > suppose to do. turn the machine on and off.[/color]
>>
>> Guess what, Columbo, with windows you can assign what the button
>> does; turn the machine off, put it in standby, shutdown gracefully, etc.[/color]
>
>Same with linux. It just comes set to a different default. Its also
>intended for a more sophisticated user. If you need something thats easy
>to use, buy an Apple.
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > can't Bill Gates understand that? Is he so old
>> > and greedy, that every light switch has to be
>> > branded with his stamp?[/color]
>>
>> It called convenience.[/color]
>
>In other words, stop struggling and drink the Kool-Aid.
>[color=green]
>> : Is he such a Scrooge that[color=darkred]
>> > he has to covet the BIOS and put it under his
>> > Constitutionall y illegal umbrella?
>> >
>> > What makes people old and greedy like that????[/color]
>>
>> Using antiquated OS's like linux!!!![/color]
>
>Having to reinvent technology in order to satisfy a demand for novelty
>doesn't always lead to product improvements. When the first wheel was
>invented it was made round. If the marketing department wants a
>different shape, fine. Odds are that it won't work as well.
>[/color]

Shut the fuck up, douchebag.

It is no one's fault that John shit face Bailo didn't know that he can
go to the control panel and specify what the power button does from
there, it is his fault, and you are even more stupid to argue that fact.

**Jeff Relf** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Custom Boot / Shutdown .

Hi Eregreat ,
You mention : " John ' Shit Face ' Bailo "

No , That's : John ' Antonio ' Bailo .

By the way ,
My Win98 box takes about 20 seconds to fully boot .

Shutdown is usually just a few seconds , 5 maybe .

But both my boot and shutdown are very custom .

It's nothing for me to reboot .

**Stephen Edwards** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

Re: Custom Boot / Shutdown .

Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET > orally extracted the following in
news:qlb5mgrdyv t1.dlg@__.Jeff. Relf:
[color=blue]
> Hi Eregreat ,
> You mention : " John ' Shit Face ' Bailo "
>
>
> No , That's : John ' Antonio ' Bailo .
>
> By the way ,
> My Win98 box takes about 20 seconds to fully boot .
>
> Shutdown is usually just a few seconds , 5 maybe .
>
> But both my boot and shutdown are very custom .
>
> It's nothing for me to reboot .[/color]

Only a Windows devotee would actually *brag* about having to reboot
their machine on a regular basis.

Now I've seen it all.
--
while ((remote_users == "GUI-dependent PeeCee/Macintrash monkeys") == 0) {
strcpy (myusername, "01100001 01101110 01100001 01101101"); // decode
strcat (myusername, " 01101111 01110010 01110000 01101000"); // to ASCII
} // %hostname="extr emezone.com"; cat whining | apathy > /dev/null; logout

**Jeff Relf** · Jul 21 '05, 08:54 AM

It's a Good Thing .

Hi Stephen ,
You say :
" Only a Windows devotee would actually _ Brag _ about
having to reboot their machine on a regular basis . "

It's very rare for me to cash , and when I do ,
It's usually due to high activity over a long time .
( Which is a sign that the system is useful . )

I shutdown often ... It's a good thing .

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