Is .NET finally taking of?

[Guest]

This .NET thing exists commercially for 1 year now I believe.
A lot of books and magazines talk about this .NET

But so far I only encountered 1 application that needed this .NET.
Even the programs made by Microsoft all are still using none-NET technology.

So do you think that this .NET would actually become popular?
Is Microsoft actually starting to create an .NET version of Internet
Explorer and other parts of Windows?

[Pieter Philippaerts]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

<Olaf.Baeyens@s kyscan.be> wrote in message[color=blue]
> So do you think that this .NET would actually become popular?[/color]

We all knew from the beginning that it was going to take some time for
people to switch over. Compare it to the transition of Windows 16-bit to
Windows 32-bit. Even today, some people are still using 16-bit Windows apps.
[color=blue]
> Is Microsoft actually starting to create an .NET version of Internet
> Explorer[/color]

Rewriting a perfectly good application just for the heck of it doesn't make
economical sense. So they won't do that.
IE is also a bad example, because version 6 will be the last standalone
version.
[color=blue]
> and other parts of Windows?[/color]

Explorer [do not confuse that with Internet Explorer] of the next version of
Windows will be a .NET application, amongst others.

Regards,
Pieter Philippaerts
Managed SSL/TLS: http://www.mentalis.org/go.php?sl

[Chris Stewart]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

Not to mention VS.NET. I believe it was written in C#.

[Guest]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

>> So do you think that this .NET would actually become popular?[color=blue][color=green]
>>[/color]
> We all knew from the beginning that it was going to take some time for
> people to switch over. Compare it to the transition of Windows 16-bit to
> Windows 32-bit. Even today, some people are still using 16-bit Windows[/color]
apps.[color=blue]
>[/color]
So far I see a lot of books, magazine reviews, code examples but not much
real programs using .NET.
Maybe it is because of the hassel of installing the .NET framework that
cannot be easily done in one setup file if you must support multiple
language versions.

Another big problem is when you distribute an applicaton, then you get very
strange errors, dll's that are not found, file Open boxes that does not run,
code that first must be comied to a local drive before it allows to run....
All because of this increased net security functionality. I love these new
things, but it is not that eaasy to understand all of this.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Is Microsoft actually starting to create an .NET version of Internet
> > Explorer[/color]
>
> Rewriting a perfectly good application just for the heck of it doesn't[/color]
make[color=blue]
> economical sense. So they won't do that.
>[/color]
There will be a period of mixed applications that uses managed/unmanaged
code.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > and other parts of Windows?[/color]
>
> Explorer [do not confuse that with Internet Explorer] of the next version[/color]
of[color=blue]
> Windows will be a .NET application, amongst others.
>[/color]
Internet Explorer would be a nice thing to port to .NET since it would stop
some more vunerabilities.
Especially all core components that can be accesed by Internet would be a
good step forward in start porting to .NET.

But this will take some time. The learning curve have set again a little bit
higher.

[Bruce L-C]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

MS is writing a lot in dotnet right now but big apps take time. Good article
on it.
Quote from this article:
http://www.informationweek.com/story...cleID=15200123[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>[/color][/color][/color]
Project Green, an effort that involves about 40% of Business Solutions'
1,700 programmers, says Satya Nadella, the division's corporate VP of
product development. By the middle of next year, Nadella says, two-thirds of
Business Solutions' developers will be concentrated on new products[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[/color][/color][/color]
Bruce L-C

<Olaf.Baeyens@s kyscan.be> wrote in message
news:3f7abb0a$0 $31754$ba620e4c @reader1.news.s kynet.be...[color=blue]
> This .NET thing exists commercially for 1 year now I believe.
> A lot of books and magazines talk about this .NET
>
> But so far I only encountered 1 application that needed this .NET.
> Even the programs made by Microsoft all are still using none-NET[/color]
technology.[color=blue]
>
> So do you think that this .NET would actually become popular?
> Is Microsoft actually starting to create an .NET version of Internet
> Explorer and other parts of Windows?
>
>[/color]

[Stu Smith]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

Like a later poster said, big apps take time, but they are coming.

Here's one I'm working on:

http://www.digita.com/pro/home/accountspro/default.asp

"Pieter Philippaerts" <Pieter@nospam. mentalis.org> wrote in message
news:%232Si9%23 GiDHA.692@TK2MS FTNGP12.phx.gbl ...[color=blue]
> <Olaf.Baeyens@s kyscan.be> wrote in message[color=green]
> > So do you think that this .NET would actually become popular?[/color]
>
> We all knew from the beginning that it was going to take some time for
> people to switch over. Compare it to the transition of Windows 16-bit to
> Windows 32-bit. Even today, some people are still using 16-bit Windows[/color]
apps.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > Is Microsoft actually starting to create an .NET version of Internet
> > Explorer[/color]
>
> Rewriting a perfectly good application just for the heck of it doesn't[/color]
make[color=blue]
> economical sense. So they won't do that.
> IE is also a bad example, because version 6 will be the last standalone
> version.
>[color=green]
> > and other parts of Windows?[/color]
>
> Explorer [do not confuse that with Internet Explorer] of the next version[/color]
of[color=blue]
> Windows will be a .NET application, amongst others.
>
> Regards,
> Pieter Philippaerts
> Managed SSL/TLS: http://www.mentalis.org/go.php?sl
>
>[/color]

[Ted Harper]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:31:21 +0200, <Olaf.Baeyens@s kyscan.be> wrote:
[color=blue]
>But so far I only encountered 1 application that needed this .NET.[/color]

We have a packaged commercial application using .Net technologies
(ASP.Net, C#, Web Services, Crystal Reports.Net, COM Interop, a couple
of Windows Services written in C#, etc). It is about 50,000 Lines of
Code, has been under development since late last year, and
commercially available for about 3 months.

The not-very-pretty brochureware website is at
http://www.impactinvesting.com. Please email me if you want a
username/password to have a look at the demo system running over the
Internet. The demo system is linked from the brochureware website, but
you'll need a logon to have a look around it.

It's for a reasonably specialised market, but is certainly a "real"
vertical market application sold to real customers.

ted.h.

--
Ted Harper [Fissile Software Pty Ltd] (Sydney, Australia)
Email: ted_harper@yaho o.com
Phone: +61-418-442-342
Fax: +61-2-9686-4192

[Mr.Tickle]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

Yes its taken off my Support list.

:D



"Ted Harper" <ted_harper@yah oo.com> wrote in message
news:rsgfovg1kh ffgccs67nmfk6nf 3gfjjfeqv@4ax.c om...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:31:21 +0200, <Olaf.Baeyens@s kyscan.be> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >But so far I only encountered 1 application that needed this .NET.[/color]
>
> We have a packaged commercial application using .Net technologies
> (ASP.Net, C#, Web Services, Crystal Reports.Net, COM Interop, a couple
> of Windows Services written in C#, etc). It is about 50,000 Lines of
> Code, has been under development since late last year, and
> commercially available for about 3 months.
>
> The not-very-pretty brochureware website is at
> http://www.impactinvesting.com. Please email me if you want a
> username/password to have a look at the demo system running over the
> Internet. The demo system is linked from the brochureware website, but
> you'll need a logon to have a look around it.
>
> It's for a reasonably specialised market, but is certainly a "real"
> vertical market application sold to real customers.
>
> ted.h.
>
> --
> Ted Harper [Fissile Software Pty Ltd] (Sydney, Australia)
> Email: ted_harper@yaho o.com
> Phone: +61-418-442-342
> Fax: +61-2-9686-4192[/color]

[Ted Harper]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:31:21 +0200, <Olaf.Baeyens@s kyscan.be> wrote:
[color=blue]
>But so far I only encountered 1 application that needed this .NET.[/color]

We have a packaged commercial application using .Net technologies
(ASP.Net, C#, Web Services, Crystal Reports.Net, COM Interop, a couple
of Windows Services written in C#, etc). It is about 50,000 Lines of
Code, has been under development since late last year, and
commercially available for about 3 months.

The not-very-pretty brochureware website is at
http://www.impactinvesting.com. Please email me if you want a
username/password to have a look at the demo system running over the
Internet. The demo system is linked from the brochureware website, but
you'll need a logon to have a look around it.

It's for a reasonably specialised market, but is certainly a "real"
vertical market application sold to real customers.

ted.h.

--
Ted Harper [Fissile Software Pty Ltd] (Sydney, Australia)
Email: ted_harper@yaho o.com
Phone: +61-418-442-342
Fax: +61-2-9686-4192

[Mr.Tickle]

Re: Is .NET finally taking of?

Yes its taken off my Support list.

:D



"Ted Harper" <ted_harper@yah oo.com> wrote in message
news:rsgfovg1kh ffgccs67nmfk6nf 3gfjjfeqv@4ax.c om...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:31:21 +0200, <Olaf.Baeyens@s kyscan.be> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >But so far I only encountered 1 application that needed this .NET.[/color]
>
> We have a packaged commercial application using .Net technologies
> (ASP.Net, C#, Web Services, Crystal Reports.Net, COM Interop, a couple
> of Windows Services written in C#, etc). It is about 50,000 Lines of
> Code, has been under development since late last year, and
> commercially available for about 3 months.
>
> The not-very-pretty brochureware website is at
> http://www.impactinvesting.com. Please email me if you want a
> username/password to have a look at the demo system running over the
> Internet. The demo system is linked from the brochureware website, but
> you'll need a logon to have a look around it.
>
> It's for a reasonably specialised market, but is certainly a "real"
> vertical market application sold to real customers.
>
> ted.h.
>
> --
> Ted Harper [Fissile Software Pty Ltd] (Sydney, Australia)
> Email: ted_harper@yaho o.com
> Phone: +61-418-442-342
> Fax: +61-2-9686-4192[/color]