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  • Web Master

    #1

    Cross platform XML?

    Are there any good websites or books that deal with cross platform XML? I'd
    like to target Internet Explorer/Netscape Navigator 5 or later, as well as
    Opera, possibly konqueror on Linux as well.

    OT: I'm also looking for books and websites for cross platform XHTML and
    DHTML.


  • Christopher Cooper

    #2
    Re: Cross platform XML?

    I really don't understand your question, but I would suggest looking at:

    http://www.xml.org/xml/resources_cover.shtml
    http://www.ibiblio.org/xml/books.html

    Both the parent sites for the aforementioned links are also two good
    places to get some great information.

    and finally:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...understxml.asp

    Good luck.

    -C...

    Web Master wrote:[color=blue]
    > Are there any good websites or books that deal with cross platform XML? I'd
    > like to target Internet Explorer/Netscape Navigator 5 or later, as well as
    > Opera, possibly konqueror on Linux as well.
    >
    > OT: I'm also looking for books and websites for cross platform XHTML and
    > DHTML.
    >
    >[/color]

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    • Simon Harvey

      #3
      Re: Cross platform XML?

      Hi,

      XML is inherently cross platform - thats why everyone is having a cow about
      it just now.
      If your wanting to target different browsers, then you are looking at using
      the following techs at a minimum:
      XML and XHTML (just a version of html that doesnt allow sloppy code). If you
      were thinking about doing this for real you need to look at XSLT. Buy
      altovas products and get some other decent web editor. I prefer the studio
      MX suite from macromedia

      Chow

      Simon


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      • Christopher Browne

        #4
        Re: Cross platform XML?

        After a long battle with technology,"Sim on Harvey" <sh856531@micro softs_free_emal _service.com>, an earthling, wrote:[color=blue]
        > XML is inherently cross platform - thats why everyone is having a cow about
        > it just now.[/color]

        That's typically a nonsequitor.

        XML-based applications are commonly only implemented on one platform,
        and for any given XML document, it is entirely possible that the only
        application that has been written to use that document (DTD/schema)
        runs on a single platform.

        For instance, any of Microsoft's XML support has solely been written
        for their Windows platform.

        If you have a "BizTalk" document, it's more than likely that the only
        place it's useful is when interpreted by a Microsoft BizTalk server.
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        • Mark Preston

          #5
          Re: Cross platform XML?

          On 28 Jul 2003 11:47:39 GMT, Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@acm.o rg>
          wrote:
          [color=blue]
          >After a long battle with technology,"Sim on Harvey" <sh856531@micro softs_free_emal _service.com>, an earthling, wrote:[color=green]
          >> XML is inherently cross platform - thats why everyone is having a cow about
          >> it just now.[/color]
          >
          >That's typically a nonsequitor.
          >[/color]
          Actually, it isn't - XML is cross-platform (but particular XML
          applications may not be).[color=blue]
          >
          >XML-based applications are commonly only implemented on one platform,
          >and for any given XML document, it is entirely possible that the only
          >application that has been written to use that document (DTD/schema)
          >runs on a single platform.
          >[/color]
          Again, here is the problem you seem to be having. XML is **not** the
          application, it is the data format and the data format most definately
          **is** cross-platform, even if the application software is not.[color=blue]
          >
          >For instance, any of Microsoft's XML support has solely been written
          >for their Windows platform.
          >[/color]
          Also not true. For example, Microsoft Word (especially in later
          versions) can write XML formatted documents rather than the
          proprietary "DOC" format and I can (and do) read those in Open Office
          on both Windows and Linux systems.[color=blue]
          >
          >If you have a "BizTalk" document, it's more than likely that the only
          >place it's useful is when interpreted by a Microsoft BizTalk server.
          >[/color]
          BizTalk, to be blunt, is dead. It was only ever a Microsoft
          proprietary method that tried (unsuccessfully ) to make parts of the
          XML standard into "Redmond-only" versions, much as they did with Java,
          browser Javascript and others.

          This time, it failed and Microsoft have abandoned BizTalk.
          --
          Mark A. Preston, The Magpie's Nest, Lancashire, UK
          Website : www.magpiesnest.co.uk

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          • Johannes Koch

            #6
            Re: Cross platform XML?

            Web Master wrote:[color=blue]
            > Are there any good websites or books that deal with cross platform XML? I'd
            > like to target Internet Explorer/Netscape Navigator 5 or later, as well as
            > Opera, possibly konqueror on Linux as well.[/color]

            If you want to use XML and be cross-browser, use XML on the server-side
            and do a transformation to a cross-browser format (HTML 4.01 or XHTML
            1.0). Btw, there is no Netscape Navigator version 5 release.
            --
            Johannes Koch
            In te domine speravi; non confundar in aeternum.
            (Te Deum, 4th cent.)

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            • Theodore H. Smith

              #7
              Re: Cross platform XML?

              Hi there,

              I don't have any advice on cross platform XML. XML is inherently cross
              platform. The tools are not, though, currently.

              For the PC the usual tool is XML Spy, www.xmlspy.com

              For the Mac, there is ElfData XML Editor, from


              For Linux, I'm not sure.

              "Web Master" <web@master.org > wrote in message news:<q6%Ua.944 0$Hr.357921@twi ster.socal.rr.c om>...
              [color=blue]
              > Are there any good websites or books that deal with cross platform XML? I'd
              > like to target Internet Explorer/Netscape Navigator 5 or later, as well as
              > Opera, possibly konqueror on Linux as well.
              >
              > OT: I'm also looking for books and websites for cross platform XHTML and
              > DHTML.[/color]

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              • Bob Foster

                #8
                Re: Cross platform XML?

                "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.c ern.ch> wrote in message
                news:Pine.LNX.4 .53.03083112114 40.6337@lxplus0 93.cern.ch...[color=blue]
                > That doesn't say to me that in the absence of a BOM [parsers] must be able
                > to deduce the [UTF-16] encoding.[/color]

                True, even though the non-normative part explains in detail how to do it,
                you're right, one can't depend on it.
                [color=blue][color=green]
                > > It's a given in XML. If it isn't declared as anything else and it isn't
                > > UTF-16, it's UTF-8.[/color]
                >
                > I can't argue with that. I'm afraid that comment of mine was a
                > more-general one, not specific to the XML context, but I failed to
                > make that clear.[/color]

                It's clear now.

                Actually, it's great to have a clear and unambiguous spec to cite. You are
                right to be precise. That's the glue that holds us all together.

                Bob Foster






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