Empty Elements in XHTML

[August Karlstrom]

Hi everyone,

In XHTML, can any empty element <foo></foobe replaced by <foo />?

Example:

<table>
<tr><td>1</td><td>2</td></tr>
<tr><td /><td>4</td></tr>
</table>


Regards,

August

[Martin Honnen]

Re: Empty Elements in XHTML

August Karlstrom wrote:

In XHTML, can any empty element <foo></foobe replaced by <foo />?
>
Example:
>
<table>
<tr><td>1</td><td>2</td></tr>
<tr><td /><td>4</td></tr>
</table>

If parsed as XML it will not matter whether you have
<td></td>
or
<td />
or
<td/>

On the other hand the XML 1.0 specification says
"For interoperabilit y, the empty-element tag SHOULD be used, and
SHOULD only be used, for elements which are declared EMPTY."
so as td elements are not declared as empty".
That is also what the XHTML 1.0 specification suggests if you want to
serve XHTML 1.0 documents as text/html. In that case you markup an empty
table cell as <td></tdand only elements defined as being empty (such
as the br element) as <br />.

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Martin Honnen

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[August Karlstrom]

Re: Empty Elements in XHTML

Martin Honnen skrev:

August Karlstrom wrote:
>

>In XHTML, can any empty element <foo></foobe replaced by <foo />?
>>
>Example:
>>
><table>
> <tr><td>1</td><td>2</td></tr>
> <tr><td /><td>4</td></tr>
></table>

>
If parsed as XML it will not matter whether you have
<td></td>
or
<td />
or
<td/>
>
On the other hand the XML 1.0 specification says
"For interoperabilit y, the empty-element tag SHOULD be used, and
SHOULD only be used, for elements which are declared EMPTY."
so as td elements are not declared as empty".
That is also what the XHTML 1.0 specification suggests if you want to
serve XHTML 1.0 documents as text/html. In that case you markup an empty
table cell as <td></tdand only elements defined as being empty (such
as the br element) as <br />.
>

OK, thanks for the accurate answer.


August

[Andy Dingley]

Re: Empty Elements in XHTML

On 11 Mar, 16:14, August Karlstrom <fusionf...@com hem.sewrote:

In XHTML, can any empty element <foo></foobe replaced by <foo />?

What's "XHTML" here?

If you mean "XHTML as XML", then of course they're absolutely
identical. However you can't use XHTML as XML on today's web (an FAQ
in c.i.w.a.h)

if you mean "Appendix C XHTML" so as to make it usable on the web,
then they're different and must be kept distinct. XML sees "empty
elements" as those with no current content at that time. HTML sees
"empty elements" as those defined as empty in ther DTD (e.g. <img>,
<br>, <hretc.) These _defined_ empty elements should be serialised
as <br /but non-empty elements with no content must remain as start
and end tags, e.g. <script src="foo.js" ></script>

There's a huge amount of past discussion of this in c.i.w.a.h, some of
it's even accurate.