VS .net 2005 Crystal Reports can run on Crystal Reports XI?

[Jay]

I am getting mixed messages from the asp.net website hosting providers - some
say they do not support Crystal Reports due to a $25,000 per cpu licensing
fee, others say all I need to do is install Crystal Reports XI (about $500)
on a dedicated server and it will run fine.

Will Reports developed with the embeded Crystal Reports in VS 2005 run in a
Crystal Reports XI environment?

--
Thanks
Jay

[Rob R. Ainscough]

Re: VS .net 2005 Crystal Reports can run on Crystal Reports XI?

You don't need CR XI if you're using VS 2005 CRViewer and you don't need to
worry about license issues.

The $25,000 per CPU is if you want to use the Designer.

Don't forget you also have the Microsoft Report Viewer control.

"Jay" <gunderj@ommuni ty.nospam> wrote in message
news:7D8BF0F3-D51F-49C0-9BE8-A189599FF0FE@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
>I am getting mixed messages from the asp.net website hosting providers -
>some
> say they do not support Crystal Reports due to a $25,000 per cpu licensing
> fee, others say all I need to do is install Crystal Reports XI (about
> $500)
> on a dedicated server and it will run fine.
>
> Will Reports developed with the embeded Crystal Reports in VS 2005 run in
> a
> Crystal Reports XI environment?
>
> --
> Thanks
> Jay[/color]

[Jay]

Re: VS .net 2005 Crystal Reports can run on Crystal Reports XI?

Wow, this is a major development for my issue - are you sure? My question is
about running the reports in a production environment where I need to be in
compliance in terms of licensing to Business Objects. I have read many other
comments about how developers of web reporting are rejecting Crystal due to
the licensing issue. If this is not true and it is just an issue of using
the Designer,
my life is about to change, big time. I have 100 reports that I am going to
re-write in SSRS due to the cost difference.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Jay


"Rob R. Ainscough" wrote:
[color=blue]
> You don't need CR XI if you're using VS 2005 CRViewer and you don't need to
> worry about license issues.
>
> The $25,000 per CPU is if you want to use the Designer.
>
> Don't forget you also have the Microsoft Report Viewer control.
>
> "Jay" <gunderj@ommuni ty.nospam> wrote in message
> news:7D8BF0F3-D51F-49C0-9BE8-A189599FF0FE@mi crosoft.com...[color=green]
> >I am getting mixed messages from the asp.net website hosting providers -
> >some
> > say they do not support Crystal Reports due to a $25,000 per cpu licensing
> > fee, others say all I need to do is install Crystal Reports XI (about
> > $500)
> > on a dedicated server and it will run fine.
> >
> > Will Reports developed with the embeded Crystal Reports in VS 2005 run in
> > a
> > Crystal Reports XI environment?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Jay[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[Rob R. Ainscough]

Re: VS .net 2005 Crystal Reports can run on Crystal Reports XI?

Jay,

You need to clarify "Designer" or "Viewer".

You also need to clarify if you are using the CR Viewer (which I believe is
based on CR10 or CR10.5) that comes with VS 2005 or CR XI?

CR has planned on a Feb release of a compatible CR XI for VS 2005, I don't
know if that happened or not.

Maybe the Web CRViewer in VS 2005 has different licensing, but I doubt it --
cause if it did they you could just build a ClickOnce app and use the
Windows Forms based CRViewer (which I know doesn't have those licensing
requirements).

Either way, if your talking Viewer only, then I don't think anyone would
purchase a $25,000 CPU license.

I'm not a big fan of CR but the version in VS 2005 gets the job done.

Rob.

"Jay" <gunderj@ommuni ty.nospam> wrote in message
news:A28CEFDB-4165-40B0-915F-A39940B54E0E@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
> Wow, this is a major development for my issue - are you sure? My question
> is
> about running the reports in a production environment where I need to be
> in
> compliance in terms of licensing to Business Objects. I have read many
> other
> comments about how developers of web reporting are rejecting Crystal due
> to
> the licensing issue. If this is not true and it is just an issue of using
> the Designer,
> my life is about to change, big time. I have 100 reports that I am going
> to
> re-write in SSRS due to the cost difference.
> Thoughts?
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
>
> "Rob R. Ainscough" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> You don't need CR XI if you're using VS 2005 CRViewer and you don't need
>> to
>> worry about license issues.
>>
>> The $25,000 per CPU is if you want to use the Designer.
>>
>> Don't forget you also have the Microsoft Report Viewer control.
>>
>> "Jay" <gunderj@ommuni ty.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:7D8BF0F3-D51F-49C0-9BE8-A189599FF0FE@mi crosoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I am getting mixed messages from the asp.net website hosting providers -
>> >some
>> > say they do not support Crystal Reports due to a $25,000 per cpu
>> > licensing
>> > fee, others say all I need to do is install Crystal Reports XI (about
>> > $500)
>> > on a dedicated server and it will run fine.
>> >
>> > Will Reports developed with the embeded Crystal Reports in VS 2005 run
>> > in
>> > a
>> > Crystal Reports XI environment?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks
>> > Jay[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

[Jay]

Re: VS .net 2005 Crystal Reports can run on Crystal Reports XI?

Rob,
I too would rather of used SSRS, but the development was already done in CR.
Apprently, you only need a licensed copy of CR Developer for web reporting
(production runtime), but it will thread at most 3 concurrent report users
per CPU. You need to buy another licesnse for each additional CPU. At some
point, you need to license CR Server which starts at $7,500 per CPU and has a
similar thread limit of 5 concurrent, then scaling up in price from there.
Very expensive.
Do you know what sort of concurrent usage you can go to with SSRS? My
reports do not query a database, they just receive a single row DataTable for
a single page report, so I am hoping to get up past 20 concurrent for a
single CPU.
Thanks again,
--
Jay


"Rob R. Ainscough" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Jay,
>
> You need to clarify "Designer" or "Viewer".
>
> You also need to clarify if you are using the CR Viewer (which I believe is
> based on CR10 or CR10.5) that comes with VS 2005 or CR XI?
>
> CR has planned on a Feb release of a compatible CR XI for VS 2005, I don't
> know if that happened or not.
>
> Maybe the Web CRViewer in VS 2005 has different licensing, but I doubt it --
> cause if it did they you could just build a ClickOnce app and use the
> Windows Forms based CRViewer (which I know doesn't have those licensing
> requirements).
>
> Either way, if your talking Viewer only, then I don't think anyone would
> purchase a $25,000 CPU license.
>
> I'm not a big fan of CR but the version in VS 2005 gets the job done.
>
> Rob.
>
> "Jay" <gunderj@ommuni ty.nospam> wrote in message
> news:A28CEFDB-4165-40B0-915F-A39940B54E0E@mi crosoft.com...[color=green]
> > Wow, this is a major development for my issue - are you sure? My question
> > is
> > about running the reports in a production environment where I need to be
> > in
> > compliance in terms of licensing to Business Objects. I have read many
> > other
> > comments about how developers of web reporting are rejecting Crystal due
> > to
> > the licensing issue. If this is not true and it is just an issue of using
> > the Designer,
> > my life is about to change, big time. I have 100 reports that I am going
> > to
> > re-write in SSRS due to the cost difference.
> > Thoughts?
> > Thanks,
> > Jay
> >
> >
> > "Rob R. Ainscough" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> You don't need CR XI if you're using VS 2005 CRViewer and you don't need
> >> to
> >> worry about license issues.
> >>
> >> The $25,000 per CPU is if you want to use the Designer.
> >>
> >> Don't forget you also have the Microsoft Report Viewer control.
> >>
> >> "Jay" <gunderj@ommuni ty.nospam> wrote in message
> >> news:7D8BF0F3-D51F-49C0-9BE8-A189599FF0FE@mi crosoft.com...
> >> >I am getting mixed messages from the asp.net website hosting providers -
> >> >some
> >> > say they do not support Crystal Reports due to a $25,000 per cpu
> >> > licensing
> >> > fee, others say all I need to do is install Crystal Reports XI (about
> >> > $500)
> >> > on a dedicated server and it will run fine.
> >> >
> >> > Will Reports developed with the embeded Crystal Reports in VS 2005 run
> >> > in
> >> > a
> >> > Crystal Reports XI environment?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Jay
> >>
> >>
> >>[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[Christopher Reed]

Re: VS .net 2005 Crystal Reports can run on Crystal Reports XI?

Take a look at these links:

http://www.businessobjects.com/products/reporting/crystalreports/licensing/details.asp

http://www.businessobjects.com/products/reporting/crystalreports/net/licensing.asp

--
Christopher A. Reed
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

"Jay" <gunderj@ommuni ty.nospam> wrote in message
news:7D8BF0F3-D51F-49C0-9BE8-A189599FF0FE@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
>I am getting mixed messages from the asp.net website hosting providers -
>some
> say they do not support Crystal Reports due to a $25,000 per cpu licensing
> fee, others say all I need to do is install Crystal Reports XI (about
> $500)
> on a dedicated server and it will run fine.
>
> Will Reports developed with the embeded Crystal Reports in VS 2005 run in
> a
> Crystal Reports XI environment?
>
> --
> Thanks
> Jay[/color]