.NET Native Code

[Jacky Luk]

Can .NET Version 2002 produce win32 native code?
I'm engaged to a Direct3D project that requires win32
Thanks
Jack

[Jon Skeet]

Re: .NET Native Code

Jacky Luk <nospam@nospam. com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Can .NET Version 2002 produce win32 native code?[/color]

Well, ngen will do the JITting before runtime, but it still requires
the framework to run.
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> I'm engaged to a Direct3D project that requires win32[/color]

What exactly do you mean by "requires win32"?

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[Jacky Luk]

Re: .NET Native Code

It's a matter of fact that our clients wouldn't allow us to install the
framework on their machines.
Thanks


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> Jacky Luk <nospam@nospam. com> wrote:[color=green]
> > Can .NET Version 2002 produce win32 native code?[/color]
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> Well, ngen will do the JITting before runtime, but it still requires
> the framework to run.
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> > I'm engaged to a Direct3D project that requires win32[/color]
>
> What exactly do you mean by "requires win32"?
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[Willy Denoyette [MVP]]

Re: .NET Native Code

Jacky Luk wrote:
|| Can .NET Version 2002 produce win32 native code?
|| I'm engaged to a Direct3D project that requires win32
|| Thanks
|| Jack

Not sure what you mean with "requires win32", but only C++ can produce native code not requireing the .NET runtime.

Willy.

[Jon Skeet]

Re: .NET Native Code

Jacky Luk <nospam@nospam. com> wrote:[color=blue]
> It's a matter of fact that our clients wouldn't allow us to install the
> framework on their machines.[/color]

In that case you basically can't use .NET. You can't run .NET
applications without the framework. I gather there's a program under
development to let you do that, but I'm not sure I see why a client
would allow you to install that but not the framework itself..

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[Tim Kurtzman]

Re: .NET Native Code

If you mean Visual Studio 2002, then yes, it can produce native Win32 code.

Tim


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>Jacky Luk wrote:
>|| Can .NET Version 2002 produce win32 native code?
>|| I'm engaged to a Direct3D project that requires win32
>|| Thanks
>|| Jack
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>Not sure what you mean with "requires win32", but only C++ can produce[/color]
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>Willy.
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[Willy Denoyette [MVP]]

Re: .NET Native Code

No, I mean VC++ the compiler (part of VS NET) is the only compiler able to produce native code not requiring the .NET runtime,
Visual studio is a development environment.

Willy.

[Huihong Luo]

Re: .NET Native Code

We will offer two options to deploy .NET applications without installing
..NET framework:

(1) a linker and mini-deployment tool that you can choose to link everything
together (except for mscorlib.dll) into a single EXE, and the tool also
automatically figures out all other dependent DLLs. (You can also choose not
to link assemblies together). A minimum set of CLR runtime is then included
and deployed (~6MB in size) with your application rather than the whole
thing. In this way, a typical windows application will be about 5 MB after
zip, one can simply unzip it onto another bare machine to run the
application. No entries will be added into the client machine's registry.
This scenario still uses CLR underneath, but only the required portion is
shipped, and there is no noticeable installation time.

(2) take one more step from (1), we will offer a native compiler to compile
the linked .NET assembly into x86 machine code. You can then ship the native
code with a runtime (~2MB) to any machines. This scenario does not use CLR
at all. The linking and compiling usually results in a 2.5MB increase on
file size. We will do more optiomization in the future to reduce the size.
Reflections and dynamic loading, etc. are supported. If .NET framework is
also available on the same machine, the native code also supports loading
and invoking external .NET assemblies (seperate DLLs which are still with
MSIL code).

I will post more info on our website (http://www.remotesoft.com) plus sample
code within the following 2 weeks, please visit our page,

Thanks,

Huihong
Remotesoft, Inc.
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> Can .NET Version 2002 produce win32 native code?
> I'm engaged to a Direct3D project that requires win32
> Thanks
> Jack
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