question about xml serilization

[amethyste]

hello,

This is my sample (simplified):

public class Binom
{
[XmlAttribute("r ange")]
public string _Value;

[XmlAttribute("n ame")]
public string Label;
}

public class Property
{
[XmlAttribute("n ame")]
public string propertyName;

public Binom DefaultAttribut e;
}


Property serialize as:

<Properties name="foo">
<DefaultAttribu te value="12345678 9" name="range" />
</Properties >

Is is possible to get rather:

<foo range="12345678 9"/>

or eventualy:

<Properties name="foo">
<DefaultAttribu te range="12345678 9" />
</Properties >

Just using the default Xml serailization?

Thank you

Happy new years

[Christoph Schittko [MVP]]

Re: question about xml serilization


amethyste,

are you trying to dynamically set the element name based on values in
your object, i.e. if the propertyName is foo and the label is set to
range, then the serialized XML is

<foo range="..." />?

First, changing the element name is only possible if you have a fixed
set of element names, but not if propertyName can hold arbitrary
strings. XML serialization is intended to be used with
strongly-structured XML data. Therefore it works best if you can express
the XML format as an XML Schema. You can change the element names either
based on the type of the serialized object:

[XmlElement( "foo", typeof(fooType) )]
[XmlElement( "bar", typeof(barType) )]
public foobarType propertyName;

or by using the choice construct [0].

Second, changing the attribute name dynamically only works based on the
type of the serialized type via attaching multiple attributes. There is
no equivalent to the choice construct for attributes.

If you need to be able to by more dynamic than that you must implement
IXmlSerializabl e [1].

HTH,
Christoph Schittko
MVP XML

http://weblogs.asp.net/cschittko

[0] http://www.topxml.com/xmlserializer/...del_groups.asp
[1] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/fhd7bk0a.aspx
[color=blue]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amethyste [mailto:anonymou s@discussions.m icrosoft.com]
> Posted At: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:16 AM
> Posted To: microsoft.publi c.dotnet.xml
> Conversation: question about xml serilization
> Subject: question about xml serilization
>
> hello,
>
> This is my sample (simplified):
>
> public class Binom
> {
> [XmlAttribute("r ange")]
> public string _Value;
>
> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
> public string Label;
> }
>
> public class Property
> {
> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
> public string propertyName;
>
> public Binom DefaultAttribut e;
> }
>
>
> Property serialize as:
>
> <Properties name="foo">
> <DefaultAttribu te value="12345678 9" name="range" />
> </Properties >
>
> Is is possible to get rather:
>
> <foo range="12345678 9"/>
>
> or eventualy:
>
> <Properties name="foo">
> <DefaultAttribu te range="12345678 9" />
> </Properties >
>
> Just using the default Xml serailization?
>
> Thank you
>
> Happy new years[/color]

[amethyste]

Re: question about xml serilization

thank you,

I suspected something like this.
I'm in the case where IXmlSerializabl e is the solution.

But IXmlSerializabl e is not officially documented. This
wories me a little bit.

[color=blue]
>-----Original Message-----
>
>amethyste,
>
>are you trying to dynamically set the element name based[/color]
on values in[color=blue]
>your object, i.e. if the propertyName is foo and the[/color]
label is set to[color=blue]
>range, then the serialized XML is
>
><foo range="..." />?
>
>First, changing the element name is only possible if you[/color]
have a fixed[color=blue]
>set of element names, but not if propertyName can hold[/color]
arbitrary[color=blue]
>strings. XML serialization is intended to be used with
>strongly-structured XML data. Therefore it works best if[/color]
you can express[color=blue]
>the XML format as an XML Schema. You can change the[/color]
element names either[color=blue]
>based on the type of the serialized object:
>
>[XmlElement( "foo", typeof(fooType) )]
>[XmlElement( "bar", typeof(barType) )]
>public foobarType propertyName;
>
>or by using the choice construct [0].
>
>Second, changing the attribute name dynamically only[/color]
works based on the[color=blue]
>type of the serialized type via attaching multiple[/color]
attributes. There is[color=blue]
>no equivalent to the choice construct for attributes.
>
>If you need to be able to by more dynamic than that you[/color]
must implement[color=blue]
>IXmlSerializab le [1].
>
>HTH,
>Christoph Schittko
>MVP XML
>http://weblogs.asp.net/cschittko
>
>
>
>[0][/color]

http://www.topxml.com/xmlserializer/choice_model_groups.as

p[color=blue]
>[1] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/fhd7bk0a.aspx
>[color=green]
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amethyste[/color][/color]
[mailto:anonymou s@discussions.m icrosoft.com][color=blue][color=green]
>> Posted At: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:16 AM
>> Posted To: microsoft.publi c.dotnet.xml
>> Conversation: question about xml serilization
>> Subject: question about xml serilization
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> This is my sample (simplified):
>>
>> public class Binom
>> {
>> [XmlAttribute("r ange")]
>> public string _Value;
>>
>> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
>> public string Label;
>> }
>>
>> public class Property
>> {
>> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
>> public string propertyName;
>>
>> public Binom DefaultAttribut e;
>> }
>>
>>
>> Property serialize as:
>>
>> <Properties name="foo">
>> <DefaultAttribu te value="12345678 9" name="range" />
>> </Properties >
>>
>> Is is possible to get rather:
>>
>> <foo range="12345678 9"/>
>>
>> or eventualy:
>>
>> <Properties name="foo">
>> <DefaultAttribu te range="12345678 9" />
>> </Properties >
>>
>> Just using the default Xml serailization?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Happy new years[/color]
>
>.
>[/color]

[Mujtaba Syed]

Re: question about xml serilization

Hi:

Till .NET 1.1, IXmlSerializabl e was mostly intended for internal (MS) use.
With 2.0, IXmlSerializabl e is receiving more publicity and programmers will
be encouraged to use it.
For info about how to implement IXmlSerializabl e in 1.1:

http://dotnetified.com/PermaLink.aspx?guid=E86B447E-AA95-49B6-909F-CDA36ACF481F

Mujtaba.

"amethyste" <anonymous@disc ussions.microso ft.com> wrote in message
news:038601c4ed 1b$db33ee10$a60 1280a@phx.gbl.. .[color=blue]
> thank you,
>
> I suspected something like this.
> I'm in the case where IXmlSerializabl e is the solution.
>
> But IXmlSerializabl e is not officially documented. This
> wories me a little bit.
>
>[color=green]
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >amethyste,
> >
> >are you trying to dynamically set the element name based[/color]
> on values in[color=green]
> >your object, i.e. if the propertyName is foo and the[/color]
> label is set to[color=green]
> >range, then the serialized XML is
> >
> ><foo range="..." />?
> >
> >First, changing the element name is only possible if you[/color]
> have a fixed[color=green]
> >set of element names, but not if propertyName can hold[/color]
> arbitrary[color=green]
> >strings. XML serialization is intended to be used with
> >strongly-structured XML data. Therefore it works best if[/color]
> you can express[color=green]
> >the XML format as an XML Schema. You can change the[/color]
> element names either[color=green]
> >based on the type of the serialized object:
> >
> >[XmlElement( "foo", typeof(fooType) )]
> >[XmlElement( "bar", typeof(barType) )]
> >public foobarType propertyName;
> >
> >or by using the choice construct [0].
> >
> >Second, changing the attribute name dynamically only[/color]
> works based on the[color=green]
> >type of the serialized type via attaching multiple[/color]
> attributes. There is[color=green]
> >no equivalent to the choice construct for attributes.
> >
> >If you need to be able to by more dynamic than that you[/color]
> must implement[color=green]
> >IXmlSerializab le [1].
> >
> >HTH,
> >Christoph Schittko
> >MVP XML
> >http://weblogs.asp.net/cschittko
> >
> >
> >
> >[0][/color]
> http://www.topxml.com/xmlserializer/...odel_groups.as
> p[color=green]
> >[1] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/fhd7bk0a.aspx
> >[color=darkred]
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amethyste[/color][/color]
> [mailto:anonymou s@discussions.m icrosoft.com][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Posted At: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:16 AM
> >> Posted To: microsoft.publi c.dotnet.xml
> >> Conversation: question about xml serilization
> >> Subject: question about xml serilization
> >>
> >> hello,
> >>
> >> This is my sample (simplified):
> >>
> >> public class Binom
> >> {
> >> [XmlAttribute("r ange")]
> >> public string _Value;
> >>
> >> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
> >> public string Label;
> >> }
> >>
> >> public class Property
> >> {
> >> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
> >> public string propertyName;
> >>
> >> public Binom DefaultAttribut e;
> >> }
> >>
> >>
> >> Property serialize as:
> >>
> >> <Properties name="foo">
> >> <DefaultAttribu te value="12345678 9" name="range" />
> >> </Properties >
> >>
> >> Is is possible to get rather:
> >>
> >> <foo range="12345678 9"/>
> >>
> >> or eventualy:
> >>
> >> <Properties name="foo">
> >> <DefaultAttribu te range="12345678 9" />
> >> </Properties >
> >>
> >> Just using the default Xml serailization?
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> Happy new years[/color]
> >
> >.
> >[/color][/color]

[Christoph Schittko [MVP]]

Re: question about xml serilization

The .NET 2.0 documentation for IXmlSerializabl e is also already
available at

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/fhd7bk0a.aspx

HTH,
Christoph Schittko
MVP XML

http://weblogs.asp.net/cschittko

[color=blue]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mujtaba Syed [mailto:mujtaba@ marlabs.com]
> Posted At: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:53 PM
> Posted To: microsoft.publi c.dotnet.xml
> Conversation: question about xml serilization
> Subject: Re: question about xml serilization
>
> Hi:
>
> Till .NET 1.1, IXmlSerializabl e was mostly intended for internal (MS)[/color]
use.[color=blue]
> With 2.0, IXmlSerializabl e is receiving more publicity and programmers
> will
> be encouraged to use it.
> For info about how to implement IXmlSerializabl e in 1.1:
> http://dotnetified.com/PermaLink.asp...A95-49B6-909F-
> CDA36ACF481F
>
> Mujtaba.
>
> "amethyste" <anonymous@disc ussions.microso ft.com> wrote in message
> news:038601c4ed 1b$db33ee10$a60 1280a@phx.gbl.. .[color=green]
> > thank you,
> >
> > I suspected something like this.
> > I'm in the case where IXmlSerializabl e is the solution.
> >
> > But IXmlSerializabl e is not officially documented. This
> > wories me a little bit.
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >
> > >amethyste,
> > >
> > >are you trying to dynamically set the element name based[/color]
> > on values in[color=darkred]
> > >your object, i.e. if the propertyName is foo and the[/color]
> > label is set to[color=darkred]
> > >range, then the serialized XML is
> > >
> > ><foo range="..." />?
> > >
> > >First, changing the element name is only possible if you[/color]
> > have a fixed[color=darkred]
> > >set of element names, but not if propertyName can hold[/color]
> > arbitrary[color=darkred]
> > >strings. XML serialization is intended to be used with
> > >strongly-structured XML data. Therefore it works best if[/color]
> > you can express[color=darkred]
> > >the XML format as an XML Schema. You can change the[/color]
> > element names either[color=darkred]
> > >based on the type of the serialized object:
> > >
> > >[XmlElement( "foo", typeof(fooType) )]
> > >[XmlElement( "bar", typeof(barType) )]
> > >public foobarType propertyName;
> > >
> > >or by using the choice construct [0].
> > >
> > >Second, changing the attribute name dynamically only[/color]
> > works based on the[color=darkred]
> > >type of the serialized type via attaching multiple[/color]
> > attributes. There is[color=darkred]
> > >no equivalent to the choice construct for attributes.
> > >
> > >If you need to be able to by more dynamic than that you[/color]
> > must implement[color=darkred]
> > >IXmlSerializab le [1].
> > >
> > >HTH,
> > >Christoph Schittko
> > >MVP XML
> > >http://weblogs.asp.net/cschittko
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[0][/color]
> > http://www.topxml.com/xmlserializer/...odel_groups.as
> > p[color=darkred]
> > >[1] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/fhd7bk0a.aspx
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: amethyste[/color]
> > [mailto:anonymou s@discussions.m icrosoft.com][color=darkred]
> > >> Posted At: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:16 AM
> > >> Posted To: microsoft.publi c.dotnet.xml
> > >> Conversation: question about xml serilization
> > >> Subject: question about xml serilization
> > >>
> > >> hello,
> > >>
> > >> This is my sample (simplified):
> > >>
> > >> public class Binom
> > >> {
> > >> [XmlAttribute("r ange")]
> > >> public string _Value;
> > >>
> > >> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
> > >> public string Label;
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >> public class Property
> > >> {
> > >> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
> > >> public string propertyName;
> > >>
> > >> public Binom DefaultAttribut e;
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Property serialize as:
> > >>
> > >> <Properties name="foo">
> > >> <DefaultAttribu te value="12345678 9" name="range" />
> > >> </Properties >
> > >>
> > >> Is is possible to get rather:
> > >>
> > >> <foo range="12345678 9"/>
> > >>
> > >> or eventualy:
> > >>
> > >> <Properties name="foo">
> > >> <DefaultAttribu te range="12345678 9" />
> > >> </Properties >
> > >>
> > >> Just using the default Xml serailization?
> > >>
> > >> Thank you
> > >>
> > >> Happy new years
> > >
> > >.
> > >[/color][/color][/color]

[amethyste]

Re: question about xml serilization

IXmlSerializabl e is still for internal use in vs 2005
béta, but this time MS gives samples!
I don't understand this anyway, why not fully document
this interface? It's just an interface after all and
runtime serialization has a full support for
customization already.

thank you
Amethyste
[color=blue]
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi:
>
>Till .NET 1.1, IXmlSerializabl e was mostly intended for [/color]
internal (MS) use.[color=blue]
>With 2.0, IXmlSerializabl e is receiving more publicity [/color]
and programmers will[color=blue]
>be encouraged to use it.
>For info about how to implement IXmlSerializabl e in 1.1:
>http://dotnetified.com/PermaLink.asp...E86B447E-AA95-[/color]
49B6-909F-CDA36ACF481F[color=blue]
>
>Mujtaba.
>
>"amethyste" <anonymous@disc ussions.microso ft.com> wrote [/color]
in message[color=blue]
>news:038601c4e d1b$db33ee10$a6 01280a@phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
>> thank you,
>>
>> I suspected something like this.
>> I'm in the case where IXmlSerializabl e is the solution.
>>
>> But IXmlSerializabl e is not officially documented. This
>> wories me a little bit.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >
>> >amethyste,
>> >
>> >are you trying to dynamically set the element name [/color][/color][/color]
based[color=blue][color=green]
>> on values in[color=darkred]
>> >your object, i.e. if the propertyName is foo and the[/color]
>> label is set to[color=darkred]
>> >range, then the serialized XML is
>> >
>> ><foo range="..." />?
>> >
>> >First, changing the element name is only possible if [/color][/color][/color]
you[color=blue][color=green]
>> have a fixed[color=darkred]
>> >set of element names, but not if propertyName can hold[/color]
>> arbitrary[color=darkred]
>> >strings. XML serialization is intended to be used with
>> >strongly-structured XML data. Therefore it works best [/color][/color][/color]
if[color=blue][color=green]
>> you can express[color=darkred]
>> >the XML format as an XML Schema. You can change the[/color]
>> element names either[color=darkred]
>> >based on the type of the serialized object:
>> >
>> >[XmlElement( "foo", typeof(fooType) )]
>> >[XmlElement( "bar", typeof(barType) )]
>> >public foobarType propertyName;
>> >
>> >or by using the choice construct [0].
>> >
>> >Second, changing the attribute name dynamically only[/color]
>> works based on the[color=darkred]
>> >type of the serialized type via attaching multiple[/color]
>> attributes. There is[color=darkred]
>> >no equivalent to the choice construct for attributes.
>> >
>> >If you need to be able to by more dynamic than that [/color][/color][/color]
you[color=blue][color=green]
>> must implement[color=darkred]
>> >IXmlSerializab le [1].
>> >
>> >HTH,
>> >Christoph Schittko
>> >MVP XML
>> >http://weblogs.asp.net/cschittko
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >[0][/color]
>> [/color][/color]
http://www.topxml.com/xmlserializer/...odel_groups.as[color=blue][color=green]
>> p[color=darkred]
>> >[1] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/fhd7bk0a.aspx
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: amethyste[/color]
>> [mailto:anonymou s@discussions.m icrosoft.com][color=darkred]
>> >> Posted At: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:16 AM
>> >> Posted To: microsoft.publi c.dotnet.xml
>> >> Conversation: question about xml serilization
>> >> Subject: question about xml serilization
>> >>
>> >> hello,
>> >>
>> >> This is my sample (simplified):
>> >>
>> >> public class Binom
>> >> {
>> >> [XmlAttribute("r ange")]
>> >> public string _Value;
>> >>
>> >> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
>> >> public string Label;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> public class Property
>> >> {
>> >> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
>> >> public string propertyName;
>> >>
>> >> public Binom DefaultAttribut e;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Property serialize as:
>> >>
>> >> <Properties name="foo">
>> >> <DefaultAttribu te value="12345678 9" name="range" />
>> >> </Properties >
>> >>
>> >> Is is possible to get rather:
>> >>
>> >> <foo range="12345678 9"/>
>> >>
>> >> or eventualy:
>> >>
>> >> <Properties name="foo">
>> >> <DefaultAttribu te range="12345678 9" />
>> >> </Properties >
>> >>
>> >> Just using the default Xml serailization?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you
>> >>
>> >> Happy new years
>> >
>> >.
>> >[/color][/color]
>
>
>.
>[/color]

[Mujtaba Syed]

Re: question about xml serilization

It is not recommeded to use the GetSchema method of IXmlSerialiazab le 2.0.
Instead a new attribute called [XmlSchemaProvid er] is available to indicate
a static method of the type that will provide the schema.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/wsnetfx2.asp

Mujtaba.

"Christoph Schittko [MVP]" <INVALIDEMAIL@a ustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23WkklRV7 EHA.3700@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> The .NET 2.0 documentation for IXmlSerializabl e is also already
> available at
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/fhd7bk0a.aspx
>
> HTH,
> Christoph Schittko
> MVP XML
> http://weblogs.asp.net/cschittko
>
>[color=green]
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mujtaba Syed [mailto:mujtaba@ marlabs.com]
> > Posted At: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:53 PM
> > Posted To: microsoft.publi c.dotnet.xml
> > Conversation: question about xml serilization
> > Subject: Re: question about xml serilization
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Till .NET 1.1, IXmlSerializabl e was mostly intended for internal (MS)[/color]
> use.[color=green]
> > With 2.0, IXmlSerializabl e is receiving more publicity and programmers
> > will
> > be encouraged to use it.
> > For info about how to implement IXmlSerializabl e in 1.1:
> > http://dotnetified.com/PermaLink.asp...A95-49B6-909F-
> > CDA36ACF481F
> >
> > Mujtaba.
> >
> > "amethyste" <anonymous@disc ussions.microso ft.com> wrote in message
> > news:038601c4ed 1b$db33ee10$a60 1280a@phx.gbl.. .[color=darkred]
> > > thank you,
> > >
> > > I suspected something like this.
> > > I'm in the case where IXmlSerializabl e is the solution.
> > >
> > > But IXmlSerializabl e is not officially documented. This
> > > wories me a little bit.
> > >
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > >amethyste,
> > > >
> > > >are you trying to dynamically set the element name based
> > > on values in
> > > >your object, i.e. if the propertyName is foo and the
> > > label is set to
> > > >range, then the serialized XML is
> > > >
> > > ><foo range="..." />?
> > > >
> > > >First, changing the element name is only possible if you
> > > have a fixed
> > > >set of element names, but not if propertyName can hold
> > > arbitrary
> > > >strings. XML serialization is intended to be used with
> > > >strongly-structured XML data. Therefore it works best if
> > > you can express
> > > >the XML format as an XML Schema. You can change the
> > > element names either
> > > >based on the type of the serialized object:
> > > >
> > > >[XmlElement( "foo", typeof(fooType) )]
> > > >[XmlElement( "bar", typeof(barType) )]
> > > >public foobarType propertyName;
> > > >
> > > >or by using the choice construct [0].
> > > >
> > > >Second, changing the attribute name dynamically only
> > > works based on the
> > > >type of the serialized type via attaching multiple
> > > attributes. There is
> > > >no equivalent to the choice construct for attributes.
> > > >
> > > >If you need to be able to by more dynamic than that you
> > > must implement
> > > >IXmlSerializab le [1].
> > > >
> > > >HTH,
> > > >Christoph Schittko
> > > >MVP XML
> > > >http://weblogs.asp.net/cschittko
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >[0]
> > > http://www.topxml.com/xmlserializer/...odel_groups.as
> > > p
> > > >[1] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/fhd7bk0a.aspx
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: amethyste
> > > [mailto:anonymou s@discussions.m icrosoft.com]
> > > >> Posted At: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:16 AM
> > > >> Posted To: microsoft.publi c.dotnet.xml
> > > >> Conversation: question about xml serilization
> > > >> Subject: question about xml serilization
> > > >>
> > > >> hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> This is my sample (simplified):
> > > >>
> > > >> public class Binom
> > > >> {
> > > >> [XmlAttribute("r ange")]
> > > >> public string _Value;
> > > >>
> > > >> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
> > > >> public string Label;
> > > >> }
> > > >>
> > > >> public class Property
> > > >> {
> > > >> [XmlAttribute("n ame")]
> > > >> public string propertyName;
> > > >>
> > > >> public Binom DefaultAttribut e;
> > > >> }
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Property serialize as:
> > > >>
> > > >> <Properties name="foo">
> > > >> <DefaultAttribu te value="12345678 9" name="range" />
> > > >> </Properties >
> > > >>
> > > >> Is is possible to get rather:
> > > >>
> > > >> <foo range="12345678 9"/>
> > > >>
> > > >> or eventualy:
> > > >>
> > > >> <Properties name="foo">
> > > >> <DefaultAttribu te range="12345678 9" />
> > > >> </Properties >
> > > >>
> > > >> Just using the default Xml serailization?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you
> > > >>
> > > >> Happy new years
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >[/color][/color]
>
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