Simple DB Design Questions

[michael newport]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

what you need to have are opinions on the pros and cons of doing
things different ways, this way you can give reasoned arguments in
favour of a certain method, and reach a useful conclusion.

I have found that the things I learnt in an academic setting have
rarely been applied in real life.

This will of course be different for everyone which leads me back to
my first point.

[swdev1]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

Michael -
agreed -
but -
he's in an academic setting. Period. I teach as sql classes as well with
mySql utilizing the CJ Date Book.
He's not in real life [yet] so anything that will reduce his grade for the
assignment ? Who are we helping?

as to 'what you need to have are opinions ...' . Ah - I have many. Usually
paid for them, as well.
but that's another thing, and surely I digress.

If a project is for a grade in an academic setting, do it the way the
teacher wants it done. Period.
Anything else will be cause to 'take off points'.

But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking further
questions.
mondo regards [Bill]
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"michael newport" <michaelnewport @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63b202d.04 02100017.98b9fd 5@posting.googl e.com...[color=blue]
> what you need to have are opinions on the pros and cons of doing
> things different ways, this way you can give reasoned arguments in
> favour of a certain method, and reach a useful conclusion.
>
> I have found that the things I learnt in an academic setting have
> rarely been applied in real life.
>
> This will of course be different for everyone which leads me back to
> my first point.[/color]

[swdev1]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

Michael -
agreed -
but -
he's in an academic setting. Period. I teach as sql classes as well with
mySql utilizing the CJ Date Book.
He's not in real life [yet] so anything that will reduce his grade for the
assignment ? Who are we helping?

as to 'what you need to have are opinions ...' . Ah - I have many. Usually
paid for them, as well.
but that's another thing, and surely I digress.

If a project is for a grade in an academic setting, do it the way the
teacher wants it done. Period.
Anything else will be cause to 'take off points'.

But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking further
questions.
mondo regards [Bill]
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"michael newport" <michaelnewport @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63b202d.04 02100017.98b9fd 5@posting.googl e.com...[color=blue]
> what you need to have are opinions on the pros and cons of doing
> things different ways, this way you can give reasoned arguments in
> favour of a certain method, and reach a useful conclusion.
>
> I have found that the things I learnt in an academic setting have
> rarely been applied in real life.
>
> This will of course be different for everyone which leads me back to
> my first point.[/color]

[swdev1]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

Michael -
agreed -
but -
he's in an academic setting. Period. I teach as sql classes as well with
mySql utilizing the CJ Date Book.
He's not in real life [yet] so anything that will reduce his grade for the
assignment ? Who are we helping?

as to 'what you need to have are opinions ...' . Ah - I have many. Usually
paid for them, as well.
but that's another thing, and surely I digress.

If a project is for a grade in an academic setting, do it the way the
teacher wants it done. Period.
Anything else will be cause to 'take off points'.

But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking further
questions.
mondo regards [Bill]
--
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"michael newport" <michaelnewport @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63b202d.04 02100017.98b9fd 5@posting.googl e.com...[color=blue]
> what you need to have are opinions on the pros and cons of doing
> things different ways, this way you can give reasoned arguments in
> favour of a certain method, and reach a useful conclusion.
>
> I have found that the things I learnt in an academic setting have
> rarely been applied in real life.
>
> This will of course be different for everyone which leads me back to
> my first point.[/color]

[michael newport]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

> But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking further[color=blue]
> questions.
> mondo regards [Bill][/color]

Agreed, but it helps me pass the time of day, and who knows what
interesting people I will get to talk to !

....although to put this in context, I have just been on an Oracle
Designer training course and a lot of these issues came up with the
other group members.

Many hours of meetings then ensued over design issues.

I dont know how much Designer costs, but my conclusion was that
Designer is more of a burden. My experience mirrors this as I
previously survived without a design tool for 13 years.

[michael newport]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

> But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking further[color=blue]
> questions.
> mondo regards [Bill][/color]

Agreed, but it helps me pass the time of day, and who knows what
interesting people I will get to talk to !

....although to put this in context, I have just been on an Oracle
Designer training course and a lot of these issues came up with the
other group members.

Many hours of meetings then ensued over design issues.

I dont know how much Designer costs, but my conclusion was that
Designer is more of a burden. My experience mirrors this as I
previously survived without a design tool for 13 years.

[michael newport]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

> But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking further[color=blue]
> questions.
> mondo regards [Bill][/color]

Agreed, but it helps me pass the time of day, and who knows what
interesting people I will get to talk to !

....although to put this in context, I have just been on an Oracle
Designer training course and a lot of these issues came up with the
other group members.

Many hours of meetings then ensued over design issues.

I dont know how much Designer costs, but my conclusion was that
Designer is more of a burden. My experience mirrors this as I
previously survived without a design tool for 13 years.

[swdev1]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

Designer Training Course ?
hmmm - did you join OTN ? [get your free stuff ? ]
I will usually do ONE to THREE ERD's for a client as part of a deliverable
for sign off .
Some are HUGE .
I don't use Designer for ERD's, of course.

mondo regards [Bill]
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"michael newport" <michaelnewport @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking[/color][/color]
further[color=blue][color=green]
> > questions.
> > mondo regards [Bill][/color]
>
> Agreed, but it helps me pass the time of day, and who knows what
> interesting people I will get to talk to !
>
> ...although to put this in context, I have just been on an Oracle
> Designer training course and a lot of these issues came up with the
> other group members.
>
> Many hours of meetings then ensued over design issues.
>
> I dont know how much Designer costs, but my conclusion was that
> Designer is more of a burden. My experience mirrors this as I
> previously survived without a design tool for 13 years.[/color]

[swdev1]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

Designer Training Course ?
hmmm - did you join OTN ? [get your free stuff ? ]
I will usually do ONE to THREE ERD's for a client as part of a deliverable
for sign off .
Some are HUGE .
I don't use Designer for ERD's, of course.

mondo regards [Bill]
--
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email.
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"michael newport" <michaelnewport @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63b202d.04 02110115.6c7aad 3@posting.googl e.com...[color=blue][color=green]
> > But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking[/color][/color]
further[color=blue][color=green]
> > questions.
> > mondo regards [Bill][/color]
>
> Agreed, but it helps me pass the time of day, and who knows what
> interesting people I will get to talk to !
>
> ...although to put this in context, I have just been on an Oracle
> Designer training course and a lot of these issues came up with the
> other group members.
>
> Many hours of meetings then ensued over design issues.
>
> I dont know how much Designer costs, but my conclusion was that
> Designer is more of a burden. My experience mirrors this as I
> previously survived without a design tool for 13 years.[/color]

[swdev1]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

Designer Training Course ?
hmmm - did you join OTN ? [get your free stuff ? ]
I will usually do ONE to THREE ERD's for a client as part of a deliverable
for sign off .
Some are HUGE .
I don't use Designer for ERD's, of course.

mondo regards [Bill]
--
William Sanders / Electronic Filing Group Remove the DOT BOB to reply via
email.
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"michael newport" <michaelnewport @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63b202d.04 02110115.6c7aad 3@posting.googl e.com...[color=blue][color=green]
> > But ? does it really matter ? Dimitris never posted back here asking[/color][/color]
further[color=blue][color=green]
> > questions.
> > mondo regards [Bill][/color]
>
> Agreed, but it helps me pass the time of day, and who knows what
> interesting people I will get to talk to !
>
> ...although to put this in context, I have just been on an Oracle
> Designer training course and a lot of these issues came up with the
> other group members.
>
> Many hours of meetings then ensued over design issues.
>
> I dont know how much Designer costs, but my conclusion was that
> Designer is more of a burden. My experience mirrors this as I
> previously survived without a design tool for 13 years.[/color]

[michael newport]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

yep joined otn, now focusing on forms and pl/sql

how do you write your erd's ?

[michael newport]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

yep joined otn, now focusing on forms and pl/sql

how do you write your erd's ?

[michael newport]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

yep joined otn, now focusing on forms and pl/sql

how do you write your erd's ?

[Dimitris]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

Dear all...

Thanks very much for the invaluable advice! :-)

Cheers,

Dimitris

[Dimitris]

Re: Simple DB Design Questions

Dear all...

Thanks very much for the invaluable advice! :-)

Cheers,

Dimitris