ready function too late?

[Kenny]

Noob here.

I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok
but the page comes up un-tabbed and then flashes into the desired tab
setup. The tabs capability gets in via:

<script>
$(document).rea dy(function(){
$("#example ul").tabs();
});
</script>

Am I seeing the un-tabbed rendering initially because the above happens
too late? I copied that from the example here:

http://docs.jquery.com/UI/Tabs

kt

[sasuke]

Re: ready function too late?

On Oct 10, 10:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:

Noob here.
>
I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok
but the page comes up un-tabbed and then flashes into the desired tab
setup. The tabs capability gets in via:
>
<script>
   $(document).rea dy(function(){
     $("#example ul").tabs();
   });
</script>
>
Am I seeing the un-tabbed rendering initially because the above happens
too late? I copied that from the example here:
>
   http://docs.jquery.com/UI/Tabs

It would be difficult getting any library specific help in this
newsgroup; maybe try posting in a group which specifically targets
your library of choice.
<URL: http://groups.google.c om/group/jquery-en>

HTH,
/sasuke

[Kenny]

Re: ready function too late?

sasuke wrote:

On Oct 10, 10:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:
>

>>Noob here.
>>
>>I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok
>>but the page comes up un-tabbed and then flashes into the desired tab
>>setup. The tabs capability gets in via:
>>
>><script>
> $(document).rea dy(function(){
> $("#example ul").tabs();
> });
>></script>
>>
>>Am I seeing the un-tabbed rendering initially because the above happens
>>too late? I copied that from the example here:
>>
> http://docs.jquery.com/UI/Tabs

>
>
It would be difficult getting any library specific help in this
newsgroup;

Why? Doesn't anyone use JQuery? I see it is considered Unworthy around
here but religion aside I thought someone would still know it and have a
clue. Besides, I was not asking for JQuery help, I was wondering if
there is an earlier event or opportunity (directly in the DIV tag?)
where I could get the tab set up.

maybe try posting in a group which specifically targets
your library of choice.
<URL: http://groups.google.c om/group/jquery-en>

I understand. I had already checked those out and was underwhelmed by
the JQ options. Besides, as I said, I figured a JS group should have
some expertise and might like to help a noob with a simple question.

kt

[David Mark]

Re: ready function too late?

On Oct 10, 1:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:

Noob here.
>
I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok

Take it out.

[Kenny]

Re: ready function too late?

David Mark wrote:

On Oct 10, 1:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:
>

>>Noob here.
>>
>>I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok

>
>
Take it out.

Right, and use WordPad to edit HTML directly. :) I saw your posts
complaining about JQuery internals, sounds bad. But I am a non-Web
programmer trying to get a prototype together /fast/ for a demo so there
is not time to go to school on JS and JQuery is working for us.

Can you recommend another library? Dojo looks like an alternative, but
the first thing I tried worked on one browser but not others. So far
JQuery has worked everywhere.

kt

[Evertjan.]

Re: ready function too late?

Kenny wrote on 10 okt 2008 in comp.lang.javas cript:

But I am a non-Web
programmer trying to get a prototype together /fast/ for a demo so there
is not time to go to school on JS and JQuery is working for us.

If JQuery were working for you, should you have such a Q?

JQuery is NOT usefull to overcome the inability of writing Javascript.


--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

[dhtml]

Re: ready function too late?

Kenny wrote:

David Mark wrote:

>On Oct 10, 1:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:
>>

>>Noob here.
>>>
>>I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok

>>
>>
>Take it out.

>
Right, and use WordPad to edit HTML directly. :) I saw your posts
complaining about JQuery internals, sounds bad. But I am a non-Web
programmer trying to get a prototype together /fast/ for a demo so there
is not time to go to school on JS and JQuery is working for us.
>

You are in the wrong place.

http://jibbering.com/faq/#onlineResources

has links to jQuery, states:

"...
No javascript libraries are endorsed by this group. If you are looking
for help using a library, visit that library's discussion group instead.
jQuery [English]

http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en

Prototype & Scriptaculous

http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous

...."

Can you recommend another library?

No. That's not what this group is about anyway.

Garrett

>
kt

[dhtml]

Re: ready function too late?

dhtml wrote:

Kenny wrote:

>David Mark wrote:

>>On Oct 10, 1:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:
>>>
>>>Noob here.
>>>>
>>>I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It
>>>works Ok
>>>
>>>
>>Take it out.

>>
>Right, and use WordPad to edit HTML directly. :) I saw your posts
>complaining about JQuery internals, sounds bad. But I am a non-Web
>programmer trying to get a prototype together /fast/ for a demo so
>there is not time to go to school on JS and JQuery is working for us.
>>

>
You are in the wrong place.

http://jibbering.com/faq/#onlineResources

>
has links to jQuery, states:
>
"...
No javascript libraries are endorsed by this group. If you are looking
for help using a library, visit that library's discussion group instead.
jQuery [English]

http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en

Prototype & Scriptaculous

http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous

>
..."
>
>

>Can you recommend another library?

>
No. That's not what this group is about anyway.
>

<FAQENTRY>

Garrett
>

>>
>kt

[David Mark]

Re: ready function too late?

On Oct 10, 3:07 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:

David Mark wrote:

On Oct 10, 1:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:

>

>Noob here.

>

>I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok

>

Take it out.

>
Right, and use WordPad to edit HTML directly. :) I saw your posts

What do you use to edit HTML? I certainly wouldn't recommend WordPad.

complaining about JQuery internals, sounds bad. But I am a non-Web

It is bad.

programmer trying to get a prototype together /fast/ for a demo so there

Okay. For a prototype. Just realize you can't put into production
like that.

But now you are in the *very* unfortunate position of having to ask
questions of other jQuery users. Best of luck. I don't know why your
prototype has a FOUC and I don't have time to delve into it. If it
were a basic stand-alone tab script, then maybe as it would be much
simpler to spot the mistake. See where this is going?

is not time to go to school on JS and JQuery is working for us.

Sounds like it is working swimmingly. And as if you could judge what
works and what doesn't when using jQuery. Make sure you test it in
the same browser on the same box in the same configuration right
before the presentation.

>
Can you recommend another library? Dojo looks like an alternative, but

It's crap and general purpose browser scripting libraries are
generally a bad idea. You might look for a simple tab script for your
prototype.

the first thing I tried worked on one browser but not others. So far

The first thing you tried? Try again. The first thing the jQuery
genius tried didn't work so hot either. He apparently quit trying
too.

JQuery has worked everywhere.

Define "everywhere ." My guess is you mean everywhere you thought to
try it, which means nothing.

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Re: ready function too late?

dhtml wrote:

Kenny wrote:

>David Mark wrote:

>>On Oct 10, 1:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:
>>>Noob here.
>>>>
>>>I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok
>>>
>>Take it out.

>Right, and use WordPad to edit HTML directly. :) I saw your posts
>complaining about JQuery internals, sounds bad. But I am a non-Web
>programmer trying to get a prototype together /fast/ for a demo so there
>is not time to go to school on JS and JQuery is working for us.

>
You are in the wrong place.

Nonsense.

http://jibbering.com/faq/#onlineResources

>
has links to jQuery, states:
>
"...
No javascript libraries are endorsed by this group.

That is not even remotely true which is why this section desperately needs
rewording or removing.

>Can you recommend another library?

>
No. That's not what this group is about anyway.

Given your appearance here only shortly ago, you are not exactly in a
position to make such an assessment. Incidentally, that is why I don't
think that despite your efforts (which are appreciated) you are the best
person for the job, at least not as a single FAQ maintainer.


PointedEars
--
var bugRiddenCrashP ronePieceOfJunk = (
navigator.userA gent.indexOf('M SIE 5') != -1
&& navigator.userA gent.indexOf('M ac') != -1
) // Plone, register_functi on.js:16

[Kenny]

Re: ready function too late?

David Mark wrote:

On Oct 10, 3:07 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:
>

>>David Mark wrote:
>>

>>>On Oct 10, 1:03 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmai l.comwrote:

>>

>>>>Noob here.

>>

>>>>I have incorporated the jquery ui tab control in my web app. It works Ok

>>

>>>Take it out.

>>
>>Right, and use WordPad to edit HTML directly. :) I saw your posts

>
>
What do you use to edit HTML? I certainly wouldn't recommend WordPad.

I actually use the Lisp editor in Emacs mode. A little scary what
happens when I reflexively hit the keychord to compile a JS function. :)

>
>

>>complaining about JQuery internals, sounds bad. But I am a non-Web

>
>
It is bad.
>
>

>>programmer trying to get a prototype together /fast/ for a demo so there

>
>
Okay. For a prototype. Just realize you can't put into production
like that.
>
But now you are in the *very* unfortunate position of having to ask
questions of other jQuery users. Best of luck. I don't know why your
prototype has a FOUC and I don't have time to delve into it.

On Chrome and Safari it now works OK. I moved the tabbing script ahead
of everything else (it was after a lot of other JS). Timing is everything.

If it
were a basic stand-alone tab script, then maybe as it would be much
simpler to spot the mistake. See where this is going?
>
>

>>is not time to go to school on JS and JQuery is working for us.

>
>
Sounds like it is working swimmingly. And as if you could judge what
works and what doesn't when using jQuery.

True, who knows what evil lurks, but aside from IE behaving badly (we
did not have time to diagnose and just went with Chrome / Safari) the
way I judge is that I have yet to get an IR and there has been quite a
bit of use along the way. Management is thrilled with it and the rapid
development made possible by me using JQuery (and Lisp and Franz
WebActions). The scary thing is a month ago I had never programmed a web
app before. Now I have survived two rounds of layoffs and I am the
junior guy (tenure, not age).

ie, It is working for us.

Make sure you test it in
the same browser on the same box in the same configuration right
before the presentation.

Yep.

>
>

>>Can you recommend another library? Dojo looks like an alternative, but

>
>
It's crap and general purpose browser scripting libraries are
generally a bad idea. You might look for a simple tab script for your
prototype.

Straight JS/HTML? Ok, I'll keep an open mind on the next whiz-bang they
ask for.

>
>

>>the first thing I tried worked on one browser but not others. So far

>
>
The first thing you tried? Try again. The first thing the jQuery
genius tried didn't work so hot either. He apparently quit trying
too.
>
>

>>JQuery has worked everywhere.

>
>
Define "everywhere ." My guess is you mean everywhere you thought to
try it, which means nothing.

IE, Safari, FireFox, and Chrome. Safari and FireFox on both XP and OS X.

Thanks for a good laugh, guys. I respect yout passion.

kenny