Refreshing .js files

[MartinRinehart@gmail.com]

I've got the usual suspects on KDE: Firefox, Konqueror and Opera. All
aggressively cache .js files. I've not figured out a way to remove a
cached .js without closing the browser and restarting it.

This makes them useless while coding .js files. My solution (kludge?)
is to leave what will become .js between <script</scripttags in
the HTML until it feels like it is fully-featured and totally debugged
and then move it into a .js. As "fullly-featured and totally debugged"
is a rare condition, I've got more JavaScript in HTML than in .js,
where it belongs.

Is there a better way? A browser smart enough to compare time stamps
and reload .js as necessary?

[optimistx]

Re: Refreshing .js files

MartinRinehart@ gmail.com wrote:

Is there a better way? A browser smart enough to compare time stamps
and reload .js as necessary?

Why not
<script src="something. js?x='+(Math.ra ndom())' ...
?

[Gregor Kofler]

Re: Refreshing .js files

MartinRinehart@ gmail.com meinte:

I've got the usual suspects on KDE: Firefox, Konqueror and Opera. All
aggressively cache .js files. I've not figured out a way to remove a
cached .js without closing the browser and restarting it.

Each browser comes with help files.

Ctrl-F5 does the job for me at least in FF. IIRC F5 skips the cache in
Opera, too.
Or "Disable->Cache" with the web developer extension.
Or clear the cache in the preferences dialog.
Or...

Gregor

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[Joost Diepenmaat]

Re: Refreshing .js files

MartinRinehart@ gmail.com writes:

I've got the usual suspects on KDE: Firefox, Konqueror and Opera. All
aggressively cache .js files. I've not figured out a way to remove a
cached .js without closing the browser and restarting it.
>
This makes them useless while coding .js files. My solution (kludge?)
is to leave what will become .js between <script</scripttags in
the HTML until it feels like it is fully-featured and totally debugged
and then move it into a .js. As "fullly-featured and totally debugged"
is a rare condition, I've got more JavaScript in HTML than in .js,
where it belongs.
>
Is there a better way? A browser smart enough to compare time stamps
and reload .js as necessary?

Firefox, at least, will refresh all files when reloading using
SHIFT+CTRL+R and SHIFT-F5. I also suspect (but I haven't tested this
explicitly) that setting some aggressive non-caching headers should
make refreshing work on recent versions of all these browsers. And you
probably should do that during development anyway.

http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/...4.html#sec14.9

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[Dr J R Stockton]

Re: Refreshing .js files

In comp.lang.javas cript message <a7a73088-8603-4ead-aeab-a754394dea21@k7
g2000hsd.google groups.com>, Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:15:24,
MartinRinehart@ gmail.com posted:

>I've got the usual suspects on KDE: Firefox, Konqueror and Opera. All
>aggressively cache .js files. I've not figured out a way to remove a
>cached .js without closing the browser and restarting it.
>
>This makes them useless while coding .js files. My solution (kludge?)
>is to leave what will become .js between <script</scripttags in
>the HTML until it feels like it is fully-featured and totally debugged
>and then move it into a .js. As "fullly-featured and totally debugged"
>is a rare condition, I've got more JavaScript in HTML than in .js,
>where it belongs.
>
>Is there a better way? A browser smart enough to compare time stamps
>and reload .js as necessary?

Try writing the '<script type="text/javascript" src="...js"></script>'
with 'document.write ln', but appending to "...js" '+ +new Date()'. That
might defeat the caching.

Or write a utility to rename the ...js file and change the reference to
it correspondingly .

I assume you've tried shift-reload or similar?

Or run a Windows emulator with a Windows browser in it.

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[MartinRinehart@gmail.com]

Re: Refreshing .js files

Thanks, all, for the suggestions. Reading them I went back to Windows
where I learned the FF Windows is NOT FF KDE. Didn't take much
fiddling to get FF Win to reload. FF KDE has not yielded to fiddling.
Looks like a utility to rename the .js and edit the new name into the
HTML is called for. (I really DON'T want to return to a single-desktop
OS.)