Re: More on position fixed

**sheldonlg** · Aug 12 '08, 12:25 AM

Re: More on position fixed

BootNic wrote:

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:55:52 -0400
sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
<AvSdnSFsRJWNxA PVnZ2dnUVZ_u6dn Z2d@giganews.co m>
>
[snip]
Perhaps you can give me some suggestions.
>
Emulate position fixed example.
>
http://tinyurl.com/5n5h6e

Thanks. That worked on all three browsers. Now I have a problem
putting it into my real app.

First, I put the javascript into a separate file. I also put the css
stuff into a css file but left the conditional code (CC) in the app
directly. That all still worked.
=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc5.html

Then I tried putting the CC into the css file. That no longer worked.
=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc6.html

That told me that the CC had to be in the app page and not in a linked
css file.

Now, the real app that I need to fix uses an application template with
Smarty (I am not familiar with Smarty). It links in a css file. When I
put the CC into the application template (right before the </head>), I
got an error:

Fatal error: Smarty error: [in application_con tainer.tpl line 14]:
syntax error: unrecognized tag: position: absolute;
followed by a traceback dump.

My question is, how do I get the CC into the app page in this
configuration?

**Jerry Stuckle** · Aug 12 '08, 12:45 AM

Re: More on position fixed

sheldonlg wrote:

BootNic wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:55:52 -0400
>sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
><AvSdnSFsRJWNx APVnZ2dnUVZ_u6d nZ2d@giganews.c om>
>>
>[snip]
>Perhaps you can give me some suggestions.
>>
>Emulate position fixed example.
> http://tinyurl.com/5n5h6e

>
>
Thanks. That worked on all three browsers. Now I have a problem
putting it into my real app.
>
First, I put the javascript into a separate file. I also put the css
stuff into a css file but left the conditional code (CC) in the app
directly. That all still worked.
=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc5.html
>
Then I tried putting the CC into the css file. That no longer worked.
=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc6.html
>
That told me that the CC had to be in the app page and not in a linked
css file.
>
Now, the real app that I need to fix uses an application template with
Smarty (I am not familiar with Smarty). It links in a css file. When I
put the CC into the application template (right before the </head>), I
got an error:
>
Fatal error: Smarty error: [in application_con tainer.tpl line 14]:
syntax error: unrecognized tag: position: absolute;
followed by a traceback dump.
>
My question is, how do I get the CC into the app page in this
configuration?
>
>
>

Your PHP question is???

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**BootNic** · Aug 12 '08, 01:05 AM

Re: More on position fixed

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:22:04 -0400
sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
<A6qdnbV-ybKTRT3VnZ2dnUV Z_r3inZ2d@gigan ews.com>

BootNic wrote:

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:55:52 -0400
sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
<AvSdnSFsRJWNxA PVnZ2dnUVZ_u6dn Z2d@giganews.co m>

[snip]

Thanks. That worked on all three browsers. Now I have a problem
putting it into my real app.

First, I put the javascript into a separate file. I also put the css
stuff into a css file but left the conditional code (CC) in the app
directly. That all still worked.
=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc5.html

Then I tried putting the CC into the css file. That no longer worked.
=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc6.html

That told me that the CC had to be in the app page and not in a linked
css file.

Think of conditional comments as html comments. That is what they are,
only IE sees Conditional Comments as conditional comments, all other
browsers see them as html comments.

So with that, html does not belong in a css file.

The way to link an external style sheet using conditional comments:

Now, the real app that I need to fix uses an application template with
Smarty (I am not familiar with Smarty). It links in a css file. When I
put the CC into the application template (right before the </head>), I
got an error:

Fatal error: Smarty error: [in application_con tainer.tpl line 14]:
syntax error: unrecognized tag: position: absolute;
followed by a traceback dump.

My question is, how do I get the CC into the app page in this
configuration?

I don't know what Smarty is or anything about it.

I suggest you try the above example of the conditional comment with the
link element.

If that fails, perhaps a server side include or php print.

--

BootNic Mon Aug 11, 2008 08:58 pm
Nothing is stronger than habit.
*Ovid*

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**sheldonlg** · Aug 12 '08, 01:05 AM

Re: More on position fixed

Jerry Stuckle wrote:

sheldonlg wrote:

>BootNic wrote:

>>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:55:52 -0400
>>sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
>><AvSdnSFsRJWN xAPVnZ2dnUVZ_u6 dnZ2d@giganews. com>
>>>
>>[snip]
>>Perhaps you can give me some suggestions.
>>>
>>Emulate position fixed example.
>> http://tinyurl.com/5n5h6e

>>
>>
>Thanks. That worked on all three browsers. Now I have a problem
>putting it into my real app.
>>
>First, I put the javascript into a separate file. I also put the css
>stuff into a css file but left the conditional code (CC) in the app
>directly. That all still worked.
>=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc5.html
>>
>Then I tried putting the CC into the css file. That no longer worked.
>=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc6.html
>>
>That told me that the CC had to be in the app page and not in a linked
>css file.
>>
>Now, the real app that I need to fix uses an application template with
>Smarty (I am not familiar with Smarty). It links in a css file. When
>I put the CC into the application template (right before the </head>),
>I got an error:
>>
>Fatal error: Smarty error: [in application_con tainer.tpl line 14]:
>syntax error: unrecognized tag: position: absolute;
>followed by a traceback dump.
>>
>My question is, how do I get the CC into the app page in this
>configuratio n?
>>
>>
>>

>
Your PHP question is???

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarty

"Smarty is a web template system written in PHP."

Since my error is in Smarty, and I researched and found the above line,
I added comp.lang.php to the other two groups.

Now I will repeat my question:

"My question is, how do I get the CC into the app page in this
configuration (and for Jerry: which fails in Smarty)?"

**Jerry Stuckle** · Aug 12 '08, 01:15 AM

Re: More on position fixed

sheldonlg wrote:

Jerry Stuckle wrote:

>sheldonlg wrote:

>>BootNic wrote:
>>>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:55:52 -0400
>>>sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
>>><AvSdnSFsRJW NxAPVnZ2dnUVZ_u 6dnZ2d@giganews .com>
>>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>Perhaps you can give me some suggestions.
>>>>
>>>Emulate position fixed example.
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5n5h6e
>>>
>>>
>>Thanks. That worked on all three browsers. Now I have a problem
>>putting it into my real app.
>>>
>>First, I put the javascript into a separate file. I also put the css
>>stuff into a css file but left the conditional code (CC) in the app
>>directly. That all still worked.
>>=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc5.html
>>>
>>Then I tried putting the CC into the css file. That no longer worked.
>>=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc6.html
>>>
>>That told me that the CC had to be in the app page and not in a
>>linked css file.
>>>
>>Now, the real app that I need to fix uses an application template
>>with Smarty (I am not familiar with Smarty). It links in a css
>>file. When I put the CC into the application template (right before
>>the </head>), I got an error:
>>>
>>Fatal error: Smarty error: [in application_con tainer.tpl line 14]:
>>syntax error: unrecognized tag: position: absolute;
>>followed by a traceback dump.
>>>
>>My question is, how do I get the CC into the app page in this
>>configuration ?
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>Your PHP question is???

>
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarty
>
"Smarty is a web template system written in PHP."
>
Since my error is in Smarty, and I researched and found the above line,
I added comp.lang.php to the other two groups.
>
Now I will repeat my question:
>
"My question is, how do I get the CC into the app page in this
configuration (and for Jerry: which fails in Smarty)?"
>
>
>

So? Both Windows and Linux were written in C. By your logic, Windows
and Linux administrative and usage questions should be asked in a C
programmers group.

If you have Smarty questions, ask in the Smarty support forums.

I repeat. What is your PHP question?

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**sheldonlg** · Aug 12 '08, 02:05 AM

Re: More on position fixed

BootNic wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:22:04 -0400
sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
<A6qdnbV-ybKTRT3VnZ2dnUV Z_r3inZ2d@gigan ews.com>
>

>BootNic wrote:

>>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:55:52 -0400
>>sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
>><AvSdnSFsRJWN xAPVnZ2dnUVZ_u6 dnZ2d@giganews. com>

[snip]

>Thanks. That worked on all three browsers. Now I have a problem
>putting it into my real app.
>>
>First, I put the javascript into a separate file. I also put the css
>stuff into a css file but left the conditional code (CC) in the app
>directly. That all still worked.
>=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc5.html
>>
>Then I tried putting the CC into the css file. That no longer worked.
>=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc6.html
>>
>That told me that the CC had to be in the app page and not in a linked
>css file.

>
Think of conditional comments as html comments. That is what they are,
only IE sees Conditional Comments as conditional comments, all other
browsers see them as html comments.
>
So with that, html does not belong in a css file.
>
The way to link an external style sheet using conditional comments:
>

That didn't work.

**sheldonlg** · Aug 12 '08, 11:15 AM

Re: More on position fixed

BootNic wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:55:21 -0400
sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
<IK2dnffn0Lh3cD 3VnZ2dnUVZ_ovin Z2d@giganews.co m>
>

>BootNic wrote:

>>On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:22:04 -0400
>>sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
>><A6qdnbV-ybKTRT3VnZ2dnUV Z_r3inZ2d@gigan ews.com>
>>>
>>>BootNic wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:55:52 -0400
>>>>sheldonlg <sheldonlgwro te in:
>>>><AvSdnSFsRJ WNxAPVnZ2dnUVZ_ u6dnZ2d@giganew s.com>
>>[snip]
>>>Thanks. That worked on all three browsers. Now I have a problem
>>>putting it into my real app.
>>>>
>>>First, I put the javascript into a separate file. I also put the css
>>>stuff into a css file but left the conditional code (CC) in the app
>>>directly. That all still worked.
>>>=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc5.html
>>>>
>>>Then I tried putting the CC into the css file. That no longer worked.
>>>=== http://www.sheldonlg.com/popup/popupLoc6.html
>>>>
>>>That told me that the CC had to be in the app page and not in a linked
>>>css file.
>>Think of conditional comments as html comments. That is what they are,
>>only IE sees Conditional Comments as conditional comments, all other
>>browsers see them as html comments.
>>>
>>So with that, html does not belong in a css file.
>>>
>>The way to link an external style sheet using conditional comments:
>>>
>>

>That didn't work.

>
Fix your css file. The only thing that should be in your style5.css
file is:
>
div.fixed {
position: absolute;
}
html, body {
height: 100%;
overflow: auto;
}
>
No conditional comments and ONLY the CSS for IE 6, ONLY the CSS that
needs to be overwritten or added for the sake of IE 6, if you do this
correctly then your popupLoc8.html should produce the effects you
desire.
>
Conditional comments NEVER go in an external style sheet.
>

Thank you so much. That worked perfectly on the sample app. I put it
into my actual app and it was **almost** perfect. If you could help
that little more, I would be greatly appreciative.

What happened in the actual app was that I could key down in the page
and the fixed portion stayed fixed. However, I couldn't use a vertical
scroll bar on the page. For some reason, it appeared, but only moved
the entire page - including the fixed portion -- a few pixels up and
down. Scrolling with arrow down, however, worked perfectly.

I have put up the actual css file as style6.css. style5.css is the same
in the actual and sample apps. Using these styles is popupLoc9.html in
the sample app -- and it works perfectly there.