_REALLY_ simple HTML error driving me crazy

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  • Keiron Waites

    _REALLY_ simple HTML error driving me crazy

    Please see the problem in action here: http://www.leadbullet.biz/contact.php

    If you mouse over the fields, you will see that text is shown on the right.
    The text makes the other fields move when it is shown - even though the
    width of the text is less than the width of the field. WHY?

    This is driving me nuts - please help!

    TIA,

    Keiron


  • rf

    #2
    Re: _REALLY_ simple HTML error driving me crazy


    "Keiron Waites" <sdsd@dfd.com > wrote in message
    news:c1kj3c$kkk $1@hercules.bti nternet.com...[color=blue]
    > Please see the problem in action here:[/color]
    http://www.leadbullet.biz/contact.php[color=blue]
    >
    > If you mouse over the fields, you will see that text is shown on the[/color]
    right.[color=blue]
    > The text makes the other fields move when it is shown - even though the
    > width of the text is less than the width of the field. WHY?
    >
    > This is driving me nuts - please help![/color]

    Oh my... it would drive me nuts too if I had to fill in a form with such
    instructions.

    I already have filled in many forms that ask for my name and email address.
    You do not need to tell me that a name or an email address field is for.

    If you really want to, then use the title attribute for those descriptions.
    Don't fiddle with voluminous quantities of classical javascript overkill.

    To answer your actual question: The content you are stuffing into that right
    hand cell is changing the layout of the entire table. Because you have such
    a complicated table with colspans end so on that you are simply confusing
    the browser. There are known instances where colspan causes cell widths to
    be ignored and/or changed in random ways.

    Rethink the design.

    Cheers
    Richard.


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    • Els

      #3
      Re: _REALLY_ simple HTML error driving me crazy



      Keiron Waites wrote:
      [color=blue]
      > Please see the problem in action here: http://www.leadbullet.biz/contact.php
      >
      > If you mouse over the fields, you will see that text is shown on the right.[/color]

      Not in NS7.1



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      • Gary

        #4
        Re: _REALLY_ simple HTML error driving me crazy

        That form bugs the hell out of me. It is like calling your clients stupid.

        Let people work it 0out for themself that "First Name" means "Enter our
        first name".

        Let me know when you get an enquiry from someone with more than 50
        characters in their first name!!!!!

        If you do want to have help for the form, put a little "?" icon next to each
        field, launching a small popup javascript alert giving help.

        Gary.





        "Keiron Waites" <sdsd@dfd.com > wrote in message
        news:c1kj3c$kkk $1@hercules.bti nternet.com...[color=blue]
        > Please see the problem in action here:[/color]
        http://www.leadbullet.biz/contact.php[color=blue]
        >
        > If you mouse over the fields, you will see that text is shown on the[/color]
        right.[color=blue]
        > The text makes the other fields move when it is shown - even though the
        > width of the text is less than the width of the field. WHY?
        >
        > This is driving me nuts - please help!
        >
        > TIA,
        >
        > Keiron
        >
        >[/color]


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        • Eric Bohlman

          #5
          Re: _REALLY_ simple HTML error driving me crazy

          "Keiron Waites" <sdsd@dfd.com > wrote in
          news:c1kj3c$kkk $1@hercules.bti nternet.com:
          [color=blue]
          > Please see the problem in action here:
          > http://www.leadbullet.biz/contact.php
          >
          > If you mouse over the fields, you will see that text is shown on the
          > right. The text makes the other fields move when it is shown - even
          > though the width of the text is less than the width of the field. WHY?
          >
          > This is driving me nuts - please help![/color]

          It's making me giggle. In Firefox, it works just fine (meaning that it
          behaves like an "unenhanced " form. In Opera the (as other people have
          mentioned, rather patronizing) help text displays one word per line in the
          right-hand box, causing everything below to jump down when the cursor is in
          the order number field. In MSIE 6, the behavior inspires a band name, "The
          Nervous Tables" and suggests the phrase "oh no, my mouse got into the
          coffee beans again."

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          • Ivo

            #6
            Re: _REALLY_ simple HTML error driving me crazy

            "Keiron Waites" <sdsd@dfd.com > wrote in message
            news:c1kj3c$kkk $1@hercules.bti nternet.com...[color=blue]
            > Please see the problem in action here:[/color]
            http://www.leadbullet.biz/contact.php[color=blue]
            >
            > If you mouse over the fields, you will see that text is shown on the[/color]
            right.[color=blue]
            > The text makes the other fields move when it is shown - even though the
            > width of the text is less than the width of the field. WHY?[/color]

            Because of all the break tags your code:
            onMouseOver="de scription('Your <br>full<br>nam e.<br>Maximum<b r>50<br>charact e
            rs.',div0);"
            I 'm not sure why they are there.
            HTH
            Ivo

            [color=blue]
            > This is driving me nuts - please help!
            >
            > TIA,
            >
            > Keiron
            >
            >[/color]


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            • Dennis M. Marks

              #7
              Re: _REALLY_ simple HTML error driving me crazy

              In article <c1kj3c$kkk$1@h ercules.btinter net.com>, Keiron Waites
              <sdsd@dfd.com > wrote:
              [color=blue]
              > Please see the problem in action here: http://www.leadbullet.biz/contact.php
              >
              > If you mouse over the fields, you will see that text is shown on the right.
              > The text makes the other fields move when it is shown - even though the
              > width of the text is less than the width of the field. WHY?
              >
              > This is driving me nuts - please help!
              >
              > TIA,
              >
              > Keiron
              >
              >[/color]
              Following are the results on a mac.

              IE 5.1 - No problem with the width but the last description is too long
              and makes the form stretch down. If <br> are removed it works fine.

              Netscape 7 - Does't show descriptions at all.

              My first experiment would be to use css and put a width and height on
              the <div>, take out the <br> in the descriptions, and try again.

              I don't know if that will work but it is worth a try.

              --
              Dennis M. Marks

              Replace domain.invalid with dcsi.net


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