one button three functions

**Lee** · Jul 20 '05, 01:52 PM

Re: one button three functions

Unregistered said:[color=blue]
>
>
>I am very new to javascript, but I am trying to write a script that will
>that will be in a pop-up window with a form after the user hits
>submit button at the bottom I want that current pop-up to close and a
>new pop-up be opened with the variables form the form passed to the new
>pop-up so my php script can use them that will be in the new pop-up.
>I hope I am clear on what I want.[/color]

No, that's not really very clear at all.

It might help if you tried breaking the thought into at
least two sentences.

It's not clear to me what you mean by saying that you want
the values [from] the form passed to the new popup so your
PHP script can use them. Your PHP script can't see the
contents of the popup window. Do you mean that you want the
form contents passed to your PHP script, and the results of
that script displayed in the new popup, or do you want the
popup window to contain a form that submits to your PHP
script, or something else?

**Randy Webb** · Jul 20 '05, 01:52 PM

Re: one button three functions

Unregistered wrote:[color=blue]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.forum4designers.com/message37235.html[/color]

Do you realize that you are not posting to a webiste forum when you use
this site. They are passing your posts on to the usenet newsgroup
comp.lang.javas cript

comp.lang.javas cript is a publicly available newsgroup. The website you
are using is stealing its content directly from there and pretending
that it is their own. There is no original material at all on the
website you are looking at now. It is all coming directly from usenet.

I suggest you obtain a newsreader and visit us at
news:comp.lang. javascript - you will get a far better reaction to your
question there.

If you have no access to a newsreader, then try groups.google.c om where
they allow you to sign up, post, recieve replies, but they don't lie and
claim the content as there own.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/

**Barry Margolin** · Jul 20 '05, 01:52 PM

Re: one button three functions

In article <5YidnYnWCOoB54 nd4p2dnA@comcas t.com>,
Randy Webb <hikksnotathome @aol.com> wrote:
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> Unregistered wrote:[color=green]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > View this thread: http://www.forum4designers.com/message37235.html[/color]
>
> Do you realize that you are not posting to a webiste forum when you use
> this site. They are passing your posts on to the usenet newsgroup
> comp.lang.javas cript
>
> comp.lang.javas cript is a publicly available newsgroup. The website you
> are using is stealing its content directly from there and pretending
> that it is their own.[/color]

No they aren't. I just went to the site, and the very first line says:
"Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups".

They're not "stealing" anything, they're just providing another
interface, much look Google does. The difference is that they're
selective in the groups they provide.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit .edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

**Randy Webb** · Jul 20 '05, 01:52 PM

Re: one button three functions

Barry Margolin wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <5YidnYnWCOoB54 nd4p2dnA@comcas t.com>,
> Randy Webb <hikksnotathome @aol.com> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Unregistere d wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>View this thread: http://www.forum4designers.com/message37235.html[/color]
>>
>>Do you realize that you are not posting to a webiste forum when you use
>>this site. They are passing your posts on to the usenet newsgroup
>>comp.lang.jav ascript
>>
>>comp.lang.jav ascript is a publicly available newsgroup. The website you
>>are using is stealing its content directly from there and pretending
>>that it is their own.[/color]
>
>
> No they aren't.[/color]

Yes they are. Nothing in the site tells you when you are reading this
message that it is actually a post in comp.lang.javas cript. It gives the
misleading impression that it is a "private forum" based discussion.
[color=blue]
> I just went to the site, and the very first line says:
> "Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups".[/color]

Nice to see they finally changed it.
[color=blue]
> They're not "stealing" anything, they're just providing another
> interface, much look Google does. The difference is that they're
> selective in the groups they provide.[/color]

And selective in the descriptions of those groups. I went all the way
through the steps to attempt to reply to your post, via the website, and
nowhere in those steps did it tell me that I was posting to Usenet, it
implied it was a forum of there own, which its not.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/

**Barry Margolin** · Jul 20 '05, 01:52 PM

Re: one button three functions

In article <GrudnZdpeIphIY ndRVn-sA@comcast.com> ,
Randy Webb <hikksnotathome @aol.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Barry Margolin wrote:[color=green]
> > In article <5YidnYnWCOoB54 nd4p2dnA@comcas t.com>,
> > Randy Webb <hikksnotathome @aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >>Unregistere d wrote:
> >>
> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com
> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>View this thread: http://www.forum4designers.com/message37235.html
> >>
> >>Do you realize that you are not posting to a webiste forum when you use
> >>this site. They are passing your posts on to the usenet newsgroup
> >>comp.lang.jav ascript
> >>
> >>comp.lang.jav ascript is a publicly available newsgroup. The website you
> >>are using is stealing its content directly from there and pretending
> >>that it is their own.[/color]
> >
> >
> > No they aren't.[/color]
>
> Yes they are. Nothing in the site tells you when you are reading this
> message that it is actually a post in comp.lang.javas cript. It gives the
> misleading impression that it is a "private forum" based discussion.
>[color=green]
> > I just went to the site, and the very first line says:
> > "Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups".[/color]
>
> Nice to see they finally changed it.[/color]

So why doesn't this address your complaint? Not only is it on the home
page, but I noticed it at the top of every page I went to at the site.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > They're not "stealing" anything, they're just providing another
> > interface, much look Google does. The difference is that they're
> > selective in the groups they provide.[/color]
>
> And selective in the descriptions of those groups. I went all the way
> through the steps to attempt to reply to your post, via the website, and
> nowhere in those steps did it tell me that I was posting to Usenet, it[/color]

Am I being dense, or doesn't the line I quoted above do precisely that?
Is the problem that they don't ever mention the full name of the
newsgroup that they're relaying to?
[color=blue]
> implied it was a forum of there own, which its not.[/color]

Anyway, why is this a big deal? You're posting to a place that will be
seen by other people interested in the topic, and you'll see the
replies. The mechanics of the distribution are relatively unimportant.

There are Usenet groups that are also automatically relayed to mailing
lists. Are the mailing list operators "stealing" the content? IMHO,
it's just another way of participating in the discussion.

Are you planning on posting this type of worthless response to
everything that's posted from that site? The way you worded your
original response seemed like he should realize it's a problem that he
needs to fix, but I can't imagine why he'd consider it so. As long as
he can reach other people, what difference does it make?

Do you think that the site suggests that it's a way to communicate
directly with their technical support people? It's clearly a public
forum that anyone can participate in, not a customer support page.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit .edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

**Dr John Stockton** · Jul 20 '05, 02:05 PM

Re: one button three functions

JRS: In article <bv2t7b$1nt$1$8 302bc10@news.de mon.co.uk>, seen in
news:comp.lang. javascript, Richard Cornford
<Richard@litote s.demon.co.uk> posted at Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:21:14 :-
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> (and then there will probably be some residual
>resentment of forum4designers .com for attempting to perpetrate the
>deception in the first place).[/color]

And, I think, for bringing in posters too obtuse to find the Group in
the proper manner. If such a service is needed, then Google seems to
have done it nearly correctly.

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>The latter is quite important as a visitor to the "Javascript " forum has
>no way of knowing that it is the comp.lang.javas cript newsgroup that
>they are using and may find, for example, suggestions that they read the
>FQA confusing as the only FAQ that they know is associated with the
>forum is the forum4designers .com FAQ which says nothing about what is
>acceptable when posting to c.l.j.[/color]

In Usenet proper, established conventions are such that a poster ought
to be aware of a newsgroup FAQ. Those who need to be told to read the
FAQ are, therefore, liable to be among the lower classes of intellect.
Therefore, any article saying "read the FAQ" needs either to say (not
necessarily in those words) "regularly posted in this newsgroup" or to
give the URL.

That should be enough even for forum4designers users.

[color=blue]
>A final criticism of forum4designers .com is the way in which they
>present comp.lang.javas cript. It is a problem that also effects other
>web based access to Usenet, though not all, as groups.google.c om
>demonstrates . The problem is that when using HTML to present the source
>code of any programming language the tendency of HTML to collapse
>sequences of white space characters in its source into single space (or
>CR) characters means that any indenting (and/or significant white space
>sequences) within the language source code is lost. A presentation that
>will at minimum obscure the structure of the code and in extremes render
>it erroneous. But it also serves to undermine the constant efforts of
>the regulars on this group to encourage code authors to follow a style
>of consistent block indenting in their source code (especially when
>presenting it for consideration on the group).[/color]

That's sheer incompetence on the part of the site, of course; if they
claim to be a programming site they should have, /ab initio/, understood
the need to preserve indentation in code, and otherwise should have
realised that it needs to be preserved in plain text anyway.

[color=blue]
>forum4designer s.com remains a bad place to read comp.lang.javas cript
>from (particularly in comparison to groups.google.c om and (some) other
>sites offering web-based access to Usenet) and may be a bad place to
>post to comp.lang.javas cript from.[/color]

Agreed.

I find that an organisation that chooses to add to a Usenet post after
the user-chosen signature is often an organisation to be deprecated.

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