Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

**Peter Michaux** · Feb 19 '08, 07:55 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

On Feb 18, 11:38 pm, AppPad <sav74...@gmail .comwrote:

Hello,
This is a new website I am involved with, and we are seeking to open
up to a shortlist of users.
>

>
The basic overview of the service is:
- You define Object Type models & can use a Javascript API to persist
object data.
- You create HTML+Javascript applications (everything is provided for
you - no hosting or DB needed)

That is a neat idea. I'm sure there are people that know front-end
technology but not the database side of things. Adobe Air is trying to
leverage this knowledge to build desktop apps.

Hoping to find a few curious/interested Javascript gurus out there
who'd like to try it out.

Unfortunately I don't have the time but good luck!

Peter

**David Mark** · Feb 19 '08, 08:05 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

On Feb 19, 2:38 am, AppPad <sav74...@gmail .comwrote:

Hello,
This is a new website I am involved with, and we are seeking to open
up to a shortlist of users.
>

HugeDomains.com

http://apppad.com

>

[snip]

An application framework based on HTML and JavaScript will require, at
the very least, developers who can write valid HTML and solid cross-
browser JavaScript. Best of luck in finding some.

rf · Feb 19 '08, 08:25 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

"David Mark" <dmark.cinsoft@ gmail.comwrote in message
news:79fd2ead-10ee-41e3-8ae8-3008eb881a8c@72 g2000hsu.google groups.com...
On Feb 19, 2:38 am, AppPad <sav74...@gmail .comwrote:

Hello,
This is a new website I am involved with, and we are seeking to open
up to a shortlist of users.
>

AppPad.com is for sale | HugeDomains

http://apppad.com

Get your very own domain easily. Fast and professional customer service.

>

[snip]

An application framework based on HTML and JavaScript will require, at
the very least, developers who can write valid HTML and solid cross-
browser JavaScript. Best of luck in finding some.

They are certainly not living at the above URL :-)

Not even a bloody doctype!

background-color: 666666; is probably why I get my shocking pink background
:-)

**Randy Webb** · Feb 21 '08, 09:25 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

David Mark said the following on 2/21/2008 3:00 AM:

On Feb 21, 12:19 am, AppPad <sav74...@gmail .comwrote:

<snip>

>will take a bit more research on the best way to do it.

>
Not really.
>
window.onload = myfunction;

Don't let Thomas know that :)

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html
Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/

**Randy Webb** · Feb 21 '08, 11:25 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

Randy Webb said the following on 2/21/2008 6:14 AM:

<snip>

With the .js extension of course. It is what happens when I think ahead
of myself. They had installed jQuery and Prototype on the server and had
put it in every single page on my server and "fixing" code so that it
was "unobtrusiv e". No, I was not happy. They spent Thursday, Friday and
part of this last Monday fixing it.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html
Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/

**David Mark** · Feb 21 '08, 11:55 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

On Feb 21, 6:19 am, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:

Randy Webb said the following on 2/21/2008 6:14 AM:
>
<snip>
>

>
With the .js extension of course. It is what happens when I think ahead
of myself. They had installed jQuery and Prototype on the server and had
put it in every single page on my server and "fixing" code so that it
was "unobtrusiv e". No, I was not happy. They spent Thursday, Friday and
part of this last Monday fixing it.
>

And Tuesday looking for new jobs?

**Gregor Kofler** · Feb 21 '08, 12:05 PM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

David Mark meinte:

Certainly unobtrusive JavaScript via Prototype *and* jQuery is
madness. Your "senior programmer" should be demoted to junior
janitor.

Come off it! Janitors can save the universe.
<http://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Space_Quest>

Gregor

--
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http://web.gregorkofler.com ::: meine JS-Spielwiese
http://www.image2d.com ::: Bildagentur für den alpinen Raum

**Randy Webb** · Feb 21 '08, 12:35 PM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

David Mark said the following on 2/21/2008 6:46 AM:

On Feb 21, 6:19 am, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:

>Randy Webb said the following on 2/21/2008 6:14 AM:
>>
><snip>
>>

>><script type="text/javascript" src="prototype-1.6.0.2"></script>
>><script type="text/javascript" src="jquery-1.2.3"></script>

>With the .js extension of course. It is what happens when I think ahead
>of myself. They had installed jQuery and Prototype on the server and had
>put it in every single page on my server and "fixing" code so that it
>was "unobtrusiv e". No, I was not happy. They spent Thursday, Friday and
>part of this last Monday fixing it.
>>

>
And Tuesday looking for new jobs?

Just him. It was his team that did the leg work and it saved them. The
only thing that saved me was my daily backups. Most of Monday was spent
double checking and making sure that everything from Wednesday, Thursday
and Friday got updated in the databases. They went to a paper back up
system and we had to make sure everything got entered and saved. It did
make me go to a complete daily backup. We were doing weekly backups on
the entire system and daily backups on critical data. Now, it is done
daily on the entire system.

They all know, without a doubt, how pissed off I can get though.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html
Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/

**Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn** · Feb 23 '08, 01:15 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

David Mark wrote:

On Feb 21, 6:14 am, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:

>David Mark said the following on 2/21/2008 4:31 AM:

>>On Feb 21, 4:19 am, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:
>>>David Mark said the following on 2/21/2008 3:00 AM:
>>>>On Feb 21, 12:19 am, AppPad <sav74...@gmail .comwrote:
>>><snip>
>>>>>will take a bit more research on the best way to do it.
>>>>Not really.
>>>>window.onlo ad = myfunction;
>>>Don't let Thomas know that :)
>>Proprietary and error-prone approach. I know.

>Only in Thomas' warped mind is it.

>
Agreed.

Once you recognized that there is inherent truth in the statement that your
favorite (collection of) browser(s) is not the standard for every user agent
out there, you will see how mistaken you really are here.

><script type="text/javascript" src="prototype-1.6.0.2"></script>
><script type="text/javascript" src="jquery-1.2.3"></script>

>
As Thomas would say: OMG.

Don't quote me unless you mean it.

PointedEars
--
realism: HTML 4.01 Strict
evangelism: XHTML 1.0 Strict
madness: XHTML 1.1 as application/xhtml+xml
-- Bjoern Hoehrmann

**Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn** · Feb 23 '08, 01:25 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

Gregor Kofler wrote:

David Mark meinte:

>Certainly unobtrusive JavaScript via Prototype *and* jQuery is
>madness. Your "senior programmer" should be demoted to junior
>janitor.

>
Come off it! Janitors can save the universe.
<http://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Space_Quest>

YMMD :)

\\// PointedEars, adding a "find my SQ6 game box" reminder
--
var bugRiddenCrashP ronePieceOfJunk = (
navigator.userA gent.indexOf('M SIE 5') != -1
&& navigator.userA gent.indexOf('M ac') != -1
) // Plone, register_functi on.js:16

**Peter Michaux** · Feb 23 '08, 04:45 AM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

On Feb 22, 5:07 pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@we b.de>
wrote:

David Mark wrote:

On Feb 21, 6:14 am, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:

David Mark said the following on 2/21/2008 4:31 AM:
>On Feb 21, 4:19 am, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:
>>David Mark said the following on 2/21/2008 3:00 AM:
>>>On Feb 21, 12:19 am, AppPad <sav74...@gmail .comwrote:
>><snip>
>>>>will take a bit more research on the best way to do it.
>>>Not really.
>>>window.onloa d = myfunction;
>>Don't let Thomas know that :)
>Proprietary and error-prone approach. I know.
Only in Thomas' warped mind is it.

>

Agreed.

>
Once you recognized that there is inherent truth in the statement that your
favorite (collection of) browser(s) is not the standard for every user agent
out there, you will see how mistaken you really are here.

Please explain.

Peter

**toby.oconnell@gmail.com** · Mar 1 '08, 11:05 PM

Re: Build web apps in Javascript - new service open for beta

On Feb 21, 4:32 am, Randy Webb <HikksNotAtH... @aol.comwrote:

<snip>

>
Just him. It was his team that did the leg work and it saved them. The
only thing that saved me was my daily backups. Most of Monday was spent
double checking and making sure that everything from Wednesday, Thursday
and Friday got updated in the databases. They went to a paper back up
system and we had to make sure everything got entered and saved. It did
make me go to a complete daily backup. We were doing weekly backups on
the entire system and daily backups on critical data. Now, it is done
daily on the entire system.
>
They all know, without a doubt, how pissed off I can get though.

I'm a little late to this thread, but was wondering: Are you not using
a source code repository? If so, I don't understand why you would
need backups to save you (aside from cases where the repository gets
wiped). That would make the code much easier to roll back. It can
still be pretty mucked up if some "good" changes were mixed in with
the bad changes, though. Just curious because I would feel safer
reverting to a particular fine-grained, revision-based state than a
certain time-based state (of the backup).

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