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  • Cyberdog

    Beginners book

    Hi,
    I want to start learning Javascript. Can anyone please recommend a good
    book for a beginner.Thanks
  • Dr John Stockton

    #2
    Re: Beginners book

    JRS: In article <r1nbtvodjtc96m h797og3il1v91q2 ssubo@4ax.com>, seen in
    news:comp.lang. javascript, Cyberdog <david.midcom@I NVALID.com> posted at
    Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:30:33 :-
    [color=blue]
    >I want to start learning Javascript. Can anyone please recommend a good
    >book for a beginner.Thanks[/color]

    Read the FAQ, posted every Wednesday.

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    • Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

      #3
      Re: Beginners book

      Cyberdog wrote:
      [color=blue]
      > I want to start learning Javascript. Can anyone please recommend a good
      > book for a beginner.Thanks[/color]

      See the FAQ and the newsgroup.


      PointedEars, who never required a JavaScript *book*

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      • Cyberdog

        #4
        Re: Beginners book

        On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:30:33 +0000, Cyberdog <david.midcom@I NVALID.com>
        wrote:
        [color=blue]
        >Hi,
        >I want to start learning Javascript. Can anyone please recommend a good
        >book for a beginner.Thanks[/color]
        Thanks for the help.

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        • Brian

          #5
          Re: Beginners book


          "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" <PointedEars@we b.de> wrote in message
          news:3FD68D3F.9 050808@PointedE ars.de...[color=blue]
          > Cyberdog wrote:
          >[color=green]
          > > I want to start learning Javascript. Can anyone please recommend a good
          > > book for a beginner.Thanks[/color]
          >
          > See the FAQ and the newsgroup.
          >
          >
          > PointedEars, who never required a JavaScript *book*[/color]

          Not many people _require_ a book for javascript, but having a reference on
          your desk is a heck of a lot better than online references, in my opinion.
          Javascript is an easy language, but I easily forget some syntax... I get it
          confused with the many other languages and interfaces I use on a daily
          basis.

          Though PointedEars makes it seem like a JavaScript book is not necessary...
          I recommend having one around if you are going to do a lot of JS
          programming...

          I really like the JavaScript Bible, which has an _excelent_ DOM and JS
          reference... light on the how-to, heavy on the details.

          Brian


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          • Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

            #6
            Re: Beginners book

            Brian wrote:
            [color=blue]
            > "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" <PointedEars@we b.de> wrote in message
            > news:3FD68D3F.9 050808@PointedE ars.de...[/color]

            Please shorten your attribution, no one needs the message ID of the
            posting you are replying to because it is already in the headers of
            your postings and the message ID of your posting is in the headers
            of the postings of the people who reply to yours. Additionally,
            that hyperfluous information makes your attribution more than one
            line which makes following a discussion with some quoting levels
            worse (if all people would do what you do.)

            Besides, enable your automatic linebreak function and set it to max.
            80 characters per line (72 to 76 is recommended). Anything else is
            against Internet/Usenet standards.

            You will then encounter the problem, that your client software
            not only line-breaks quotes but actually breaks them. There are
            OE-Tools and OE-Quotefix who help you avoiding that.

            Or you could just switch to a client software not so badly flawed,
            there are plenty of them out there.

            Now you only need to fix that e-mail address fake (if that would
            have been correct, I would have mailed you the above instead of
            posting off-topic): <http://www.interhack.n et/pubs/munging-harmful/>

            Then your postings are at least *technically* correct and will
            therefore be read by me in the future until further notice.
            [color=blue][color=green]
            >> Cyberdog wrote:[color=darkred]
            >>> I want to start learning Javascript. Can anyone please recommend
            >>> a good book for a beginner.Thanks[/color]
            >>
            >> See the FAQ and the newsgroup.
            >>
            >> PointedEars, who never required a JavaScript *book*[/color]
            >
            > Not many people _require_ a book for javascript, but having a
            > reference on your desk is a heck of a lot better than online
            > references, in my opinion.[/color]

            Well, you simply misread me.

            *Emphasizing* the word `book' was intentional. I do not recommend
            against using references, instead I recommend to use them where you
            can and before you ask. However, I do recommend against JavaScript
            *books* because most of them are badly written (containing outdated
            or simply wrong information) and the book(s?) that are left (you see,
            there is only *one* of the hundreds of books out there mentioned in
            the FAQ that obviously can be recommended) then both require more time
            on the average to find what you are looking for, and they become easily
            outdated anyway.

            I understand that people who are used to books would prefer such.
            Advantages and disadvantages of those must be weighed properly, though.
            [color=blue]
            > Though PointedEars makes it seem like a JavaScript book is not
            > necessary... I recommend having one around if you are going to do a
            > lot of JS programming...[/color]

            If you do (a lot of) JavaScript programming(, like me), you are in
            front of the screen anyway and have your Web browser running all the
            time. Using your browser and clicking links in index documents is
            faster and easier that search the index of a book and turn to the
            specified page. If you then care for costs of being online like me,
            install and configure a local webserver (which has become quite easy
            to do these days, and you would be glad to have such a software for
            testing purposes, too) and download the specifications.

            I will always prefer my http://localhost/js/ (local copy of the
            JavaScript 1.5 Guide) and sorts above *any* JavaScript book.


            PointedEars

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            • Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

              #7
              Re: Beginners book

              (Canceled my other followup, consider it obsolete.)

              Brian wrote:
              [color=blue]
              > "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" <PointedEars@we b.de> wrote in message
              > news:3FD68D3F.9 050808@PointedE ars.de...[/color]

              Please shorten your attribution, no one needs the message ID of the
              posting you are replying to because it is already in the headers of
              your postings and the message ID of your posting is in the headers
              of the postings of the people who reply to yours. Additionally,
              that hyperfluous information makes your attribution more than one
              line which makes following a discussion with some quoting levels
              worse (if all people would do what you do.)

              Now you only need to fix that e-mail address fake (if that would
              have been correct, I would have mailed you the above instead of
              posting off-topic): <http://www.interhack.n et/pubs/munging-harmful/>

              Then your postings are at least *technically* correct and will
              therefore be read by me in the future until further notice.
              [color=blue][color=green]
              >> Cyberdog wrote:[color=darkred]
              >>> I want to start learning Javascript. Can anyone please recommend
              >>> a good book for a beginner.Thanks[/color]
              >>
              >> See the FAQ and the newsgroup.
              >>
              >> PointedEars, who never required a JavaScript *book*[/color]
              >
              > Not many people _require_ a book for javascript, but having a
              > reference on your desk is a heck of a lot better than online
              > references, in my opinion.[/color]

              Well, you simply misread me.

              *Emphasizing* the word `book' was intentional. I do not recommend
              against using references, instead I recommend to use them where you
              can and before you ask. However, I do recommend against JavaScript
              *books* because most of them are badly written (containing outdated
              or simply wrong information) and the book(s?) that are left (you see,
              there is only *one* of the hundreds of books out there mentioned in
              the FAQ that obviously can be recommended) then both require more time
              on the average to find what you are looking for, and they become easily
              outdated anyway.

              I understand that people who are used to books would prefer such.
              Advantages and disadvantages of those must be weighed properly, though.
              [color=blue]
              > Though PointedEars makes it seem like a JavaScript book is not
              > necessary... I recommend having one around if you are going to do a
              > lot of JS programming...[/color]

              If you do (a lot of) JavaScript programming(, like me), you are in
              front of the screen anyway and have your Web browser running all the
              time. Using your browser and clicking links in index documents is
              faster and easier that search the index of a book and turn to the
              specified page. If you then care for costs of being online like me,
              install and configure a local webserver (which has become quite easy
              to do these days, and you would be glad to have such a software for
              testing purposes, too) and download the specifications.

              I will always prefer my http://localhost/js/ (local copy of the
              JavaScript 1.5 Guide) and sorts above *any* JavaScript book.


              PointedEars

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              • Brian

                #8
                Re: Beginners book

                > Now you only need to fix that e-mail address fake (if that would[color=blue]
                > have been correct, I would have mailed you the above instead of
                > posting off-topic): <http://www.interhack.n et/pubs/munging-harmful/>
                >[/color]

                After reading this article, I must say, I disagree that it is of much harm.
                I will continue to mung my address.


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