Help with random script...

**Fabian** · Jul 20 '05, 11:28 AM

Re: Help with random script...

Franklin P Patchey hu kiteb:
[color=blue]
> I have modified some script and think i have put a bit in that isn't
> "compliant"
> Is the bit marked below (towards the end) correct - should it be ()
> and not ("")[/color]
....[color=blue]
> document.write( "") -------------THIS BIT HERE!!![/color]

Isn't the intended functionality equivalent to having nothing at all for
that line of code? If you want a carriage return written, use \n as an
escape character. I can't imagine any instance in which a write
statement makes sense with a null value.

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**Lee** · Jul 20 '05, 11:29 AM

Re: Help with random script...

Franklin P Patchey said:[color=blue]
>
>I have modified some script and think i have put a bit in that isn't
>"compliant"
>Is the bit marked below (towards the end) correct - should it be () and not
>("")[/color]
[color=blue]
>...
>page=new Date();
>
>document.write ("") -------------THIS BIT HERE!!!
>//done hiding -->
></SCRIPT>[/color]

That line doesn't do anything, anyway. Take it out.
The line just before it [page=new Date()] doesn't serve any
purpose, either.

**Lee** · Jul 20 '05, 11:29 AM

Re: Help with random script...

Fabian said:[color=blue]
>
>Franklin P Patchey hu kiteb:
>[color=green]
>> I have modified some script and think i have put a bit in that isn't
>> "compliant"
>> Is the bit marked below (towards the end) correct - should it be ()
>> and not ("")[/color]
>...[color=green]
>> document.write( "") -------------THIS BIT HERE!!![/color]
>
>Isn't the intended functionality equivalent to having nothing at all for
>that line of code? If you want a carriage return written, use \n as an
>escape character. I can't imagine any instance in which a write
>statement makes sense with a null value.[/color]

A carriage return would still be nearly equivalent to nothing at all,
since it displays in HTML as a single white-space character.

To get a line break, use:

document.write( "<br>");

**Dr John Stockton** · Jul 20 '05, 11:30 AM

Re: Help with random script...

JRS: In article <bns51e01ha6@dr n.newsguy.com>, seen in
news:comp.lang. javascript, Lee <REM0VElbspamtr ap@cox.net> posted at Thu,
30 Oct 2003 14:57:50 :-[color=blue]
>Fabian said:[color=green]
>>
>>Franklin P Patchey hu kiteb:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I have modified some script and think i have put a bit in that isn't
>>> "compliant"
>>> Is the bit marked below (towards the end) correct - should it be ()
>>> and not ("")[/color]
>>...[color=darkred]
>>> document.write( "") -------------THIS BIT HERE!!![/color]
>>
>>Isn't the intended functionality equivalent to having nothing at all for
>>that line of code? If you want a carriage return written, use \n as an
>>escape character. I can't imagine any instance in which a write
>>statement makes sense with a null value.[/color][/color]

If one wants a CR, CRLF, or newline written, one uses
document.writel n().

An empty string is not a null value.

Writing a literal empty string is pointless as such; but it might occur
as a result of automated code generation.

[color=blue]
>A carriage return would still be nearly equivalent to nothing at all,
>since it displays in HTML as a single white-space character.
>
>To get a line break, use:
>
> document.write( "<br>");[/color]

Not necessarily in general, it might be in <pre>; although not in this
case.

More importantly, there seems to be 31 statements identical except for
the file name; the lot should be replaceable by a single statement

document.write( "<embed src='media/audio/", FileName[page.getDate()] ,
".mp3' width='145' height='60' autostart='true ' hidden='true'",
" loop='false' volume='70'>");

after

FileName = ["", "waltzinbla ck", ..., "twilightzo ne"]

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**Franklin P Patchey** · Jul 20 '05, 11:30 AM

Re: Help with random script...

I like Dr John's idea on the short version of what I have copied (I don't
understand javascript really, so please treat me as thick!)

where do I insert the filenames of my mp3's so the script knows what to
play?
---------
What goes at the beginning here too?
document.write( "<embed src='media/audio/", FileName[page.getDate()] ,
".mp3' width='145' height='60' autostart='true ' hidden='true'",
" loop='false' volume='70'>");

**Fabian** · Jul 20 '05, 11:30 AM

Re: Help with random script...

Franklin P Patchey hu kiteb:
[color=blue]
> I like Dr John's idea on the short version of what I have copied (I
> don't understand javascript really, so please treat me as thick!)
>
> where do I insert the filenames of my mp3's so the script knows what
> to play?
> ---------
> What goes at the beginning here too?
> document.write( "<embed src='media/audio/", FileName[page.getDate()] ,
> ".mp3' width='145' height='60' autostart='true ' hidden='true'",
> " loop='false' volume='70'>");[/color]

Wouldnt a better idea be to have the javascript write a link to the file
instead? That way, the user can choose how much bandwidth your site will
consume. The smallest mp3 of listenable quality I have seen is about
half a meg. That is non-trivial on anything less than a cable
connection.

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**Dr John Stockton** · Jul 20 '05, 11:31 AM

Re: Help with random script...

JRS: In article <bnujqr$h7h$1@n ews7.svr.pol.co .uk>, seen in
news:comp.lang. javascript, Franklin P Patchey
<REMOVETHIS1010 01@talk21.com> posted at Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:22:27 :-[color=blue]
>I like Dr John's idea on the short version of what I have copied (I don't
>understand javascript really, so please treat me as thick!)
>
>where do I insert the filenames of my mp3's so the script knows what to
>play?
>---------
>What goes at the beginning here too?[/color]

You're posting via pol.co.uk, so you should understand English. Read
all that I wrote, considering the exact meanings of all of the words.

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**Fabian** · Jul 20 '05, 11:31 AM

Re: Help with random script...

Dr John Stockton hu kiteb:
[color=blue]
> You're posting via pol.co.uk, so you should understand English. Read
> all that I wrote, considering the exact meanings of all of the words.[/color]

And I'm posting from a German news server, so I suppose that means I
should understand German?

Or perhaps if I used my ISP's extraordinarily flaky Japan-based server,
would that make me fluent in Japanese?

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**Franklin P Patchey** · Jul 20 '05, 11:31 AM

To Dr John Stockton.

Nice one Fabian!
I have noticed that a lot of people in this newsgroup (and others) attempt
to be helpful, but at the same time intensely condescending and short
sighted. A typical computer obsessive (John Stockton).
No I don't understand and don't mind admitting it. I pay you a compliment
that your shortened script is better and you reply with rudeness - what's
going on there?

Just because I understand English doesn't mean I will understand a computer
code that I have no idea about. I lifted the original script from
Bravenet.com on their help pages. I don't know how to modify it so it is
shorter but still works and you shouldn't assume that just because I
understand English and am posting in a PC newsgroup that I understand
everything about computers including Javascript.

I don't want you opinions, just help with the script. If you are going to
give it then thank you, if not then just don't reply at all - be a rational,
reasonable adult!

"Fabian" <lajzar@hotmail .com> wrote in message
news:bo1evq$153 r1a$2@ID-174912.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
> Dr John Stockton hu kiteb:
>[color=green]
> > You're posting via pol.co.uk, so you should understand English. Read
> > all that I wrote, considering the exact meanings of all of the words.[/color]
>
> And I'm posting from a German news server, so I suppose that means I
> should understand German?
>
> Or perhaps if I used my ISP's extraordinarily flaky Japan-based server,
> would that make me fluent in Japanese?
>
>
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>[/color]

**Fabian** · Jul 20 '05, 11:31 AM

Re: To Dr John Stockton.

Franklin P Patchey hu kiteb:
[color=blue]
> Nice one Fabian!
> ... I pay you a
> compliment that your shortened script is better and you reply with
> rudeness - what's going on there?[/color]

I'm confused. I don't recall seeing any replies from you on the matter
of my shortened script. And I don't recall writing a rude response to
you. I would be pleased if you would highlight what exactly I wrote to
you that you consider so rude.

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**Franklin P Patchey** · Jul 20 '05, 11:31 AM

Re: To Dr John Stockton.

No you didn't. I am referring to Dr John Stockton saying that as I'm posting
from a UK server that I should understand English. You weren't rude the Dr
guy

"Fabian" <lajzar@hotmail .com> wrote in message
news:bo2svt$17f uks$1@ID-174912.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
> Franklin P Patchey hu kiteb:
>[color=green]
> > Nice one Fabian!
> > ... I pay you a
> > compliment that your shortened script is better and you reply with
> > rudeness - what's going on there?[/color]
>
> I'm confused. I don't recall seeing any replies from you on the matter
> of my shortened script. And I don't recall writing a rude response to
> you. I would be pleased if you would highlight what exactly I wrote to
> you that you consider so rude.
>
>
> --
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> Fabian
> Visit my website often and for long periods!
> http://www.lajzar.co.uk
>[/color]

**Dr John Stockton** · Jul 20 '05, 11:32 AM

The Wisdom of Franklin P Patchey

JRS: In article <bo2t8c$knh$1@n ewsg1.svr.pol.c o.uk>, seen in
news:comp.lang. javascript, Franklin P Patchey
<REMOVETHIS1010 01@talk21.com> posted at Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:27:46 :-[color=blue]
>No you didn't. I am referring to Dr John Stockton saying that as I'm posting
>from a UK server that I should understand English.[/color]

You wrote "(I don't understand javascript really, so please treat me as
thick!)". I saw no reason to disagree with the first part, so I
complied with the second part.

You should read the newsgroup FAQ with care, to find out (/inter alia/)
how news posts and replies should be formatted; it will increase your
chances of getting useful replies in future.

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