standard to metric converter program

[piaseckiac]

I am producing a website on air and need a link to change the entire
website from standard to metric for temperature, pressure,
miles-kilometers, and volume. Thank you.

[Joe]

Re: standard to metric converter program

"piaseckiac " <piaseckiac@hot mail.com> wrote in message
news:6482d1a0.0 310271042.104e1 82e@posting.goo gle.com...[color=blue]
> I am producing a website on air and need a link to change the entire
> website from standard to metric for temperature, pressure,
> miles-kilometers, and volume. Thank you.[/color]

http://www.initium.demon.co.uk/converts/metimp.htm. That what your looking
for?
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Re: standard to metric converter program

piaseckiac wrote on 27 okt 2003 in comp.lang.javas cript:[color=blue]
> I am producing a website on air and need a link to change the entire
> website from standard to metric for temperature, pressure,
> miles-kilometers, and volume. Thank you.[/color]


I thought metric was standard?
<http://dbhs.wvusd.k12. ca.us/Humor/Funny-Metric-Chart.html>


More comprehensive:
<http://ts.nist.gov/ts/htdocs/200/202/mpo_home.htm>

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[HikksNotAtHome]

Re: standard to metric converter program

In article <Xns9421CBDDF9C 3Aeejj99@194.10 9.133.29>, "Evertjan."
<exjxw.hannivoo rt@interxnl.net > writes:
[color=blue]
>I thought metric was standard?[/color]

Its an Americanism to call inches/feet and such "Standard" and is indicative of
a lack of understanding of the fact that the web is world wide, where the
"Standard" is inded Metric (as you knew).
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[Lee]

Re: standard to metric converter program

HikksNotAtHome said:[color=blue]
>
>In article <Xns9421CBDDF9C 3Aeejj99@194.10 9.133.29>, "Evertjan."
><exjxw.hannivo ort@interxnl.ne t> writes:
>[color=green]
>>I thought metric was standard?[/color]
>
>Its an Americanism to call inches/feet and such "Standard" and is indicative of
>a lack of understanding of the fact that the web is world wide, where the
>"Standard" is inded Metric (as you knew).[/color]

No, that's a silly, bigoted notion. It has nothing to do with
lack of understanding of the web. It's the very reasonable
result of having been taught in school, in marketing materials,
and in industry that there are two measuring systems, called
"Standard" and "Metric".

Froogle for a "standard socket set" and for "metric socket set"
and you'll see that the point of confusion is not in the OP.
That's simply the most common way the systems are referenced.
It's no more incorrect than calling an apartment a "flat".

[Evertjan.]

Re: standard to metric converter program

Lee wrote on 28 okt 2003 in comp.lang.javas cript:[color=blue]
> No, that's a silly, bigoted notion. It has nothing to do with
> lack of understanding of the web. It's the very reasonable
> result of having been taught in school, in marketing materials,
> and in industry that there are two measuring systems, called
> "Standard" and "Metric".
>
> Froogle for a "standard socket set" and for "metric socket set"[/color]

Those webpages are ment for a country/region specific "audience".
Usenet, or at least this NG is pretty worldwide.
[color=blue]
> and you'll see that the point of confusion is not in the OP.
> That's simply the most common way the systems are referenced.[/color]

But it is. It is an affront to the cyberworld to take it for granted that
the readers of a posing know, even without specific warning, that the OP
includes American, no U.S. specific meaning to a keyword.

If I wrote "standard-" vs "u.s.-measures" you would be confused perhaps
too.

Even that lack of understanding inside the U.S. has led to a multimillion
dollar crash on Mars.
[color=blue]
> It's no more incorrect than calling an apartment a "flat".[/color]

Again, this depends on the audience.



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[Lee]

Re: standard to metric converter program

Evertjan. said:[color=blue]
>
>Lee wrote on 28 okt 2003 in comp.lang.javas cript:[color=green]
>> No, that's a silly, bigoted notion. It has nothing to do with
>> lack of understanding of the web. It's the very reasonable
>> result of having been taught in school, in marketing materials,
>> and in industry that there are two measuring systems, called
>> "Standard" and "Metric".
>>
>> Froogle for a "standard socket set" and for "metric socket set"[/color]
>
>Those webpages are ment for a country/region specific "audience".
>Usenet, or at least this NG is pretty worldwide.[/color]

The point is to demonstrate that "standard" is a correct way
to refer to the "English" measurement system in US English,
and is not, as the previous poster suggested, meant to suggest
that it is the international standard system of measurement.

[color=blue][color=green]
>> and you'll see that the point of confusion is not in the OP.
>> That's simply the most common way the systems are referenced.[/color]
>
>But it is. It is an affront to the cyberworld to take it for granted that
>the readers of a posing know, even without specific warning, that the OP
>includes American, no U.S. specific meaning to a keyword.[/color]

Nonsense. Any English-speaker who can't figure out what
"standard" means when contrasted with "metric" shouldn't
be trying to use a keyboard without supervision.
[color=blue]
>If I wrote "standard-" vs "u.s.-measures" you would be confused perhaps
>too.[/color]

No. The contrast makes it obvious.
[color=blue]
>Even that lack of understanding inside the U.S. has led to a multimillion
>dollar crash on Mars.[/color]

Not at all. That crash was caused by the complete failure
to specify the measurement system, not by misunderstandin g
"standard" vs "metric".

[color=blue][color=green]
>> It's no more incorrect than calling an apartment a "flat".[/color]
>Again, this depends on the audience.[/color]

No, as long as the meaning is as obvious as "standard" is,
when contrasted to "metric", it's perfectly reasonable for
a person to post in their local idiomatic language.

I refuse to believe that anybody who responded to the OP was
confused by the meaning. They were simply looking for a
chance to tweak an American nose. There are plenty of good
examples of American stupidity in this newsgroup and elsewhere,
but there are also plenty of good examples of anti-American
bigotry and ignorance.

[Evertjan.]

Re: standard to metric converter program

Lee wrote on 28 okt 2003 in comp.lang.javas cript:[color=blue]
> I refuse to believe that anybody who responded to the OP was
> confused by the meaning. They were simply looking for a
> chance to tweak an American nose.[/color]

As "they" was me, you could have seen my jokingly staged confusion was
followed by a correct help link, more to the OP's point but forgotten in
the follow up.

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[Lee]

Re: standard to metric converter program

Evertjan. said:[color=blue]
>
>Lee wrote on 28 okt 2003 in comp.lang.javas cript:[color=green]
>> I refuse to believe that anybody who responded to the OP was
>> confused by the meaning. They were simply looking for a
>> chance to tweak an American nose.[/color]
>
>As "they" was me, you could have seen my jokingly staged confusion was
>followed by a correct help link, more to the OP's point but forgotten in
>the follow up.[/color]

No, actually, I don't think I ever read your original response,
and wouldn't have objected to some good-natured teasing about it.
My objection is to the characterizatio n of the use of the term
"standard" as:

"... indicative of a lack of understanding of the fact that
the web is world wide, ..."

when, in fact, the term "standard" in this case has become an
idiomatic name for the measurement system, which has lost most
of the original meaning of being used universally.

At one time it was common to call it the "English" system of
measurement, but that became confusing when the UK dropped it.

[Dr John Stockton]

Re: standard to metric converter program

JRS: In article <6482d1a0.03102 71042.104e182e@ posting.google. com>, seen
in news:comp.lang. javascript, piaseckiac <piaseckiac@hot mail.com> posted
at Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:48 :-[color=blue]
>I am producing a website on air and need a link to change the entire
>website from standard to metric for temperature, pressure,
>miles-kilometers, and volume. Thank you.[/color]

Obviously an isolationist who does not realise, or does not care, or
does not understand, that Internet News is an international medium; and
that, as regards units of measurement, the USA is the odd man out, with
everywhere else using the SI ("metric") system for almost all purposes.

Well, perhaps not the only one; perhaps Myanmar and Liberia still use
Imperial units.

Measurements of ambient temperature look strange in Kelvins, though.

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[RIck Measham]

Re: standard to metric converter program

piaseckiac wrote:
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> I am producing a website on air and need a link to change the entire
> website from standard to metric for temperature, pressure,
> miles-kilometers, and volume. Thank you.[/color]

If you're just looking for a way to convert static imperial values to static
metric values, then Google is your friend. Do a goodle search for:

20 inches in centimeters

It knows a hell of a lot, including imaginary numbers:

sqrt(-4)

returns "-2i" !!!

There's a huge number of units it understands for conversions too:

100 pounds * 1 inch in calories

Hope this helps!
Cheers
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[Fabian]

Re: standard to metric converter program

Lee hu kiteb:
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> Evertjan. said:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Those webpages are ment for a country/region specific "audience".
>> Usenet, or at least this NG is pretty worldwide.[/color]
>
> The point is to demonstrate that "standard" is a correct way
> to refer to the "English" measurement system in US English,
> and is not, as the previous poster suggested, meant to suggest
> that it is the international standard system of measurement.[/color]


Unless you are writing for a specific national audience, it is bad style
to use words for a specific meaning that is used only in that country.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> But it is. It is an affront to the cyberworld to take it for granted
>> that the readers of a posing know, even without specific warning,
>> that the OP includes American, no U.S. specific meaning to a keyword.[/color]
>
> Nonsense. Any English-speaker who can't figure out what
> "standard" means when contrasted with "metric" shouldn't
> be trying to use a keyboard without supervision.[/color]

I do believe there are many people on the Internet, including this
particular newsgroup, whose first language is NOT English.
[color=blue]
> I refuse to believe that anybody who responded to the OP was
> confused by the meaning. They were simply looking for a
> chance to tweak an American nose.[/color]

In my country, "standard" (yes, its even an English-speaking country!
English is an official language!) refers to units such as the xiber and
the pulzier. Are these maybe what you had in mind?

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[Dr John Stockton]

Re: standard to metric converter program

JRS: In article <bnlv2t02ebp@dr n.newsguy.com>, seen in
news:comp.lang. javascript, Lee <REM0VElbspamtr ap@cox.net> posted at Tue,
28 Oct 2003 06:39:25 :-
[color=blue][color=green]
>>But it is. It is an affront to the cyberworld to take it for granted that
>>the readers of a posing know, even without specific warning, that the OP
>>includes American, no U.S. specific meaning to a keyword.[/color]
>
>Nonsense. Any English-speaker who can't figure out what
>"standard" means when contrasted with "metric" shouldn't
>be trying to use a keyboard without supervision.[/color]


It is not a question of understanding, but of good manners.

Outside the USA, it is widely realised that most Americans know or care
little for the ways of the rest of the world. This is, in fact, why
shooting, etc., at Americans is such a popular pastime in the more
excitable countries.

The technology is not yet (AFAIK) available to do that over the
Internet, so we just do what we can to teach better ways to the Merkins,
or at least to point out to others how wrong they are.

Most who can read English are in countries where Metric is the standard.

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[Pat Norton]

Re: standard to metric converter program

Lee wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>Even that lack of understanding inside the U.S. has[/color]
>led to a multimillion dollar crash on Mars.
>
>That crash was caused by the complete failure to
>specify the measurement system, not by
>misunderstandi ng "standard" vs "metric".[/color]

The specification mandated metric units. The subcontractor, Lockheed
Martin, failed use metric units.

The official report says:
"The MCO MIB [Mars Climate Orbiter Mishap Investigation Board] has
determined that the root cause for the loss of the MCO spacecraft was
the failure to use metric units in the coding of a ground software
file, "Small Forces," used in trajectory models. Specifically,
thruster performance data in English units instead of metric units was
used in the software application code titled SM_FORCES (smallforces).
The output from the SM_FORCES application code as required by a MSOP
Project Software Interface Specification (SIS) was to be in metric
units of Newton-seconds (N-s). Instead, the data was reported in
English units of pound-seconds (lbf-s). The Angular Momentum
Desaturation (AMD) file contained the output data from the SM_FORCES
software. The SIS, which was not followed, defines both the format and
units of the AMD file generated by ground-based computers."

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/codeq/risk/mco_mib_report.pdf

[Lee]

Re: standard to metric converter program

Dr John Stockton said:[color=blue]
>
>JRS: In article <bnlv2t02ebp@dr n.newsguy.com>, seen in
>news:comp.lang .javascript, Lee <REM0VElbspamtr ap@cox.net> posted at Tue,
>28 Oct 2003 06:39:25 :-
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>But it is. It is an affront to the cyberworld to take it for granted that
>>>the readers of a posing know, even without specific warning, that the OP
>>>includes American, no U.S. specific meaning to a keyword.[/color]
>>
>>Nonsense. Any English-speaker who can't figure out what
>>"standard" means when contrasted with "metric" shouldn't
>>be trying to use a keyboard without supervision.[/color]
>
>
>It is not a question of understanding, but of good manners.
>
>Outside the USA, it is widely realised that most Americans know or care
>little for the ways of the rest of the world. This is, in fact, why
>shooting, etc., at Americans is such a popular pastime in the more
>excitable countries.
>
>The technology is not yet (AFAIK) available to do that over the
>Internet, so we just do what we can to teach better ways to the Merkins,
>or at least to point out to others how wrong they are.[/color]


Not only have you missed the entire point, but you've also managed
to preach good manners while endorsing shooting people. How does
that foot taste?