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    Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...


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    Thanks.

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    George Hester
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  • George Hester

    #2
    Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

    A genius I ain't. Tried the textarea suggestion. This resulted in goop in
    a textarea. The rest since there was no example I'm still lost. Thanks
    though.

    --
    George Hester
    _______________ _______________ ____
    "David Dorward" <dorward@yahoo. com> wrote in message
    news:bh35vs$heg $1$8302bc10@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
    > George Hester wrote:
    >
    >[/color]
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    >
    > http://dorward.me.uk/www/hide/#encryption
    >
    > --
    > David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/[/color]

    Comment

    • George Hester

      #3
      Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

      A genius I ain't. Tried the textarea suggestion. This resulted in goop in
      a textarea. The rest since there was no example I'm still lost. Thanks
      though.

      --
      George Hester
      _______________ _______________ ____
      "David Dorward" <dorward@yahoo. com> wrote in message
      news:bh35vs$heg $1$8302bc10@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
      > George Hester wrote:
      >
      >[/color]
      <html><head><sc ript>z='yCj45%2 0zeB0+e%21%29Op A6%2CNTn*mkK0+e uxe%23i%24NTn*% 2[color=blue]
      >
      > http://dorward.me.uk/www/hide/#encryption
      >
      > --
      > David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/[/color]

      Comment

      • David Dorward

        #4
        Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

        George Hester wrote:

        Please direct your attention towards:
        http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause sig
        trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig indicator')
        [color=blue]
        > A genius I ain't. Tried the textarea suggestion. This resulted in goop
        > in
        > a textarea. The rest since there was no example I'm still lost. Thanks
        > though.[/color]

        The rest, presumably, being "Use the Mozilla DOM Inspector, right click on
        the tree, then pick the obvious menu item"?

        Its a bit difficult to give an example of that... at least short of having
        screen shots with big arrows drawn over them.

        This should help though:


        --
        David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

        Comment

        • David Dorward

          #5
          Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

          George Hester wrote:

          Please direct your attention towards:
          http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause sig
          trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig indicator')
          [color=blue]
          > A genius I ain't. Tried the textarea suggestion. This resulted in goop
          > in
          > a textarea. The rest since there was no example I'm still lost. Thanks
          > though.[/color]

          The rest, presumably, being "Use the Mozilla DOM Inspector, right click on
          the tree, then pick the obvious menu item"?

          Its a bit difficult to give an example of that... at least short of having
          screen shots with big arrows drawn over them.

          This should help though:


          --
          David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

          Comment

          • George Hester

            #6
            Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

            I'll look into it. What's this about?

            George Hester wrote:

            Please direct your attention towards:
            http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause sig
            trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig indicator')

            I did not write that.

            --
            George Hester
            _______________ _______________ ____
            "David Dorward" <dorward@yahoo. com> wrote in message
            news:bh3hts$s9q $1$8302bc10@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
            > George Hester wrote:
            >
            > Please direct your attention towards:
            > http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause[/color]
            sig[color=blue]
            > trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig indicator')
            >[color=green]
            > > A genius I ain't. Tried the textarea suggestion. This resulted in goop
            > > in
            > > a textarea. The rest since there was no example I'm still lost. Thanks
            > > though.[/color]
            >
            > The rest, presumably, being "Use the Mozilla DOM Inspector, right click on
            > the tree, then pick the obvious menu item"?
            >
            > Its a bit difficult to give an example of that... at least short of having
            > screen shots with big arrows drawn over them.
            >
            > This should help though:
            > http://www.google.com/search?q=mozilla+dom+inspector
            >
            > --
            > David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/[/color]

            Comment

            • George Hester

              #7
              Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

              I'll look into it. What's this about?

              George Hester wrote:

              Please direct your attention towards:
              http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause sig
              trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig indicator')

              I did not write that.

              --
              George Hester
              _______________ _______________ ____
              "David Dorward" <dorward@yahoo. com> wrote in message
              news:bh3hts$s9q $1$8302bc10@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
              > George Hester wrote:
              >
              > Please direct your attention towards:
              > http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause[/color]
              sig[color=blue]
              > trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig indicator')
              >[color=green]
              > > A genius I ain't. Tried the textarea suggestion. This resulted in goop
              > > in
              > > a textarea. The rest since there was no example I'm still lost. Thanks
              > > though.[/color]
              >
              > The rest, presumably, being "Use the Mozilla DOM Inspector, right click on
              > the tree, then pick the obvious menu item"?
              >
              > Its a bit difficult to give an example of that... at least short of having
              > screen shots with big arrows drawn over them.
              >
              > This should help though:
              > http://www.google.com/search?q=mozilla+dom+inspector
              >
              > --
              > David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/[/color]

              Comment

              • David Dorward

                #8
                Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

                George Hester wrote:
                [color=blue]
                > George Hester wrote:
                >
                > Please direct your attention towards:
                > http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause
                > sig trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig
                > indicator')
                >
                > I did not write that.[/color]

                No, you didn't hance the lack of "greater then" signs to indicated that it
                was quoted material.

                I wrote it - you should read it.

                --
                David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

                Comment

                • David Dorward

                  #9
                  Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

                  George Hester wrote:
                  [color=blue]
                  > George Hester wrote:
                  >
                  > Please direct your attention towards:
                  > http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause
                  > sig trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig
                  > indicator')
                  >
                  > I did not write that.[/color]

                  No, you didn't hance the lack of "greater then" signs to indicated that it
                  was quoted material.

                  I wrote it - you should read it.

                  --
                  David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

                  Comment

                  • George Hester

                    #10
                    Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

                    fu

                    --
                    George Hester
                    _______________ _______________ ____
                    "Dr John Stockton" <spam@merlyn.de mon.co.uk> wrote in message
                    news:E7DNiCGSUj N$Ewf2@merlyn.d emon.co.uk...[color=blue]
                    > JRS: In article <TtcZa.177385$E Q5.140971@twist er.nyroc.rr.com >, seen in
                    > news:comp.lang. javascript, George Hester <hesterloli@hot mail.com> posted
                    > at Sat, 9 Aug 2003 20:05:07 :-
                    >[color=green]
                    > >I'll look into it. What's this about?[/color]
                    >
                    > You were asked to look at, no doubt, in order that you would thereby
                    > discover what it is about.
                    >
                    > You should also look at the newsgroup FAQ; all of it, but in particular
                    > Section 2.3.
                    >
                    > When, or if, you conform with the proper newsgroup conventions for the
                    > composition of responses, you will add to the set of those prepared to
                    > consider technical content of your material. Those who co-operate with
                    > the knowledgeable will find that the knowledgeable are willing to co-
                    > operate with them; those who do not may end up relying on the non-
                    > knowledgeable.
                    >
                    > --
                    > © John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon. co.uk Turnpike v4.00 IE[/color]
                    4 ©[color=blue]
                    > <URL:http://jibbering.com/faq/> Jim Ley's FAQ for[/color]
                    news:comp.lang. javascript[color=blue]
                    > <URL:http://www.merlyn.demo n.co.uk/js-index.htm> JS maths, dates,[/color]
                    sources.[color=blue]
                    > <URL:http://www.merlyn.demo n.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/JS/&c., FAQ topics,[/color]
                    links.

                    Comment

                    • George Hester

                      #11
                      Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

                      Let me ask you something. Do you think an Internet with rules is a good
                      thing? Do you think there may be users of the Internet that don't know
                      about the rules and that do not care? One thing you might want to consider.
                      There is no rule maker of the Internet. There is accepted practices but
                      that is like ethics. It is not something you can shove down someone's
                      throat. Now if what I do inhibits responses to my questions then you have
                      achieved your ends. Namely to assert your authority over me by not
                      answering. To remind me of your authority does nothing. I try to make my
                      posts as pleasant and clear as I can. If you have a problem with that buddy
                      I have problems with some of the accepted practices. But I do not whine
                      about it. Now please instruct your children they have an obligation to you.
                      I do not.

                      --
                      George Hester
                      _______________ _______________ ____
                      "David Dorward" <dorward@yahoo. com> wrote in message
                      news:bh3ltl$2sq $1$8302bc10@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
                      > George Hester wrote:
                      >[color=green]
                      > > George Hester wrote:
                      > >
                      > > Please direct your attention towards:
                      > > http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause
                      > > sig trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig
                      > > indicator')
                      > >
                      > > I did not write that.[/color]
                      >
                      > No, you didn't hance the lack of "greater then" signs to indicated that it
                      > was quoted material.
                      >
                      > I wrote it - you should read it.
                      >
                      > --
                      > David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/[/color]

                      Comment

                      • George Hester

                        #12
                        Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

                        fu

                        --
                        George Hester
                        _______________ _______________ ____
                        "Dr John Stockton" <spam@merlyn.de mon.co.uk> wrote in message
                        news:E7DNiCGSUj N$Ewf2@merlyn.d emon.co.uk...[color=blue]
                        > JRS: In article <TtcZa.177385$E Q5.140971@twist er.nyroc.rr.com >, seen in
                        > news:comp.lang. javascript, George Hester <hesterloli@hot mail.com> posted
                        > at Sat, 9 Aug 2003 20:05:07 :-
                        >[color=green]
                        > >I'll look into it. What's this about?[/color]
                        >
                        > You were asked to look at, no doubt, in order that you would thereby
                        > discover what it is about.
                        >
                        > You should also look at the newsgroup FAQ; all of it, but in particular
                        > Section 2.3.
                        >
                        > When, or if, you conform with the proper newsgroup conventions for the
                        > composition of responses, you will add to the set of those prepared to
                        > consider technical content of your material. Those who co-operate with
                        > the knowledgeable will find that the knowledgeable are willing to co-
                        > operate with them; those who do not may end up relying on the non-
                        > knowledgeable.
                        >
                        > --
                        > © John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon. co.uk Turnpike v4.00 IE[/color]
                        4 ©[color=blue]
                        > <URL:http://jibbering.com/faq/> Jim Ley's FAQ for[/color]
                        news:comp.lang. javascript[color=blue]
                        > <URL:http://www.merlyn.demo n.co.uk/js-index.htm> JS maths, dates,[/color]
                        sources.[color=blue]
                        > <URL:http://www.merlyn.demo n.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/JS/&c., FAQ topics,[/color]
                        links.

                        Comment

                        • George Hester

                          #13
                          Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

                          Let me ask you something. Do you think an Internet with rules is a good
                          thing? Do you think there may be users of the Internet that don't know
                          about the rules and that do not care? One thing you might want to consider.
                          There is no rule maker of the Internet. There is accepted practices but
                          that is like ethics. It is not something you can shove down someone's
                          throat. Now if what I do inhibits responses to my questions then you have
                          achieved your ends. Namely to assert your authority over me by not
                          answering. To remind me of your authority does nothing. I try to make my
                          posts as pleasant and clear as I can. If you have a problem with that buddy
                          I have problems with some of the accepted practices. But I do not whine
                          about it. Now please instruct your children they have an obligation to you.
                          I do not.

                          --
                          George Hester
                          _______________ _______________ ____
                          "David Dorward" <dorward@yahoo. com> wrote in message
                          news:bh3ltl$2sq $1$8302bc10@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
                          > George Hester wrote:
                          >[color=green]
                          > > George Hester wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Please direct your attention towards:
                          > > http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post (and you can add 'can cause
                          > > sig trimmers to trim quoted material becuase it is under the sig
                          > > indicator')
                          > >
                          > > I did not write that.[/color]
                          >
                          > No, you didn't hance the lack of "greater then" signs to indicated that it
                          > was quoted material.
                          >
                          > I wrote it - you should read it.
                          >
                          > --
                          > David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/[/color]

                          Comment

                          • Lasse Reichstein Nielsen

                            #14
                            Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

                            "George Hester" <hesterloli@hot mail.com> writes:
                            [color=blue]
                            > Let me ask you something. Do you think an Internet with rules is a good
                            > thing?[/color]

                            Absolutely. The internet would not work without rules. Those rules are
                            the IP protocol family.

                            This is about Usenet, which is mostly running over the internet these
                            days (in the beginning, communication were also handled by air-mailing
                            8 inch tapes between continents. Usenet is older than the world wide
                            internet.

                            Here too, rules are important to make it run, and the NNTP protocol is
                            an example.

                            The rules you are referring to are probably not the technical ones,
                            but the social rules. It is the "best practices" for posting that hae
                            evolved over time, and that quite a lot of people agree are better
                            than the alternatives. One of these is "do not top post, and always
                            trim your quotes".
                            [color=blue]
                            > Do you think there may be users of the Internet that don't know
                            > about the rules and that do not care?[/color]

                            Absolutely. There are some who don't know, but do care when they are
                            informed. There are some that don't know, and that don't want to know.
                            And then there are those who knows, and who still doesn't care.

                            The last group is the one I personally have a problem with. They know
                            that many people prefer a different way of posting, but yet they post
                            how they want to anyway, ignoring the wishes of the intended readers.
                            In those cases, I have no problem treating them with the same
                            disregard as they treat me, and ignore their post. If I am feeling
                            generous, I will give them a chance and tell them that their behavior
                            is counterproducti ve if they want their questions answered (i.e., I
                            give them the benefit of the doubt and only calssify them as "don't
                            know", not "don't care").

                            I know that you know, so I must assume that you don't care. Am I
                            correct?
                            [color=blue]
                            > One thing you might want to consider. There is no rule maker of the
                            > Internet. There is accepted practices but that is like ethics. It is
                            > not something you can shove down someone's throat.[/color]

                            Orders will usually not make people change their opinion, that is
                            correct. The more stubborn a person is, the more entrenched they get
                            when their position is attacked, but almost everybody responds the
                            same way to some degree.
                            [color=blue]
                            > Now if what I do inhibits responses to my questions then you have
                            > achieved your ends.[/color]

                            If what you do has an effect, I can't see how that makes somebody else
                            actively achieve his ends. His ends might be achieved, but it is not
                            he who does it. Rather it is everybody who responds or choses not to
                            respond to your message, and you in particualr, who is helping
                            achieveing his ends.
                            [color=blue]
                            > Namely to assert your authority over me by not answering.[/color]

                            There is no authority in not answering. There is a clear message, one
                            that I concur with:
                            Write how your reader wants to read it, or risk him not to read it.
                            [color=blue]
                            > To remind me of your authority does nothing. I try to make my posts
                            > as pleasant and clear as I can. If you have a problem with that
                            > buddy I have problems with some of the accepted practices.[/color]

                            If you have serious problems with the accepted practices, then by all
                            means say so. Merely blatantly ignoring the accepted practices will
                            just get you blatantly ignored by those who support them, and they
                            are, by all counts, still the majority.

                            /L 'feeling generous'
                            --
                            Lasse Reichstein Nielsen - lrn@hotpop.com
                            Art D'HTML: <URL:http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/randomArtSplit. html>
                            'Faith without judgement merely degrades the spirit divine.'

                            Comment

                            • David Dorward

                              #15
                              Re: Hasn't some genius developed something that can spit out usefull information given...

                              George Hester wrote:
                              [color=blue]
                              > There is accepted practices[/color]

                              .... which you don't follow. *plonk*

                              --
                              David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

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