2nd click ineffective in drop-down list

[Bernard Philip]

hey everybody
i have a dropdown list opening a window, ie
<SELECT onchange=openwi ndow()..>
<OPTION value=....
<..choice1..>
<..choice2..>
when clicking on an choice

if i clear this window, and click again
on the same choice, nothing happens
i must click another choice, and then
come back on the first, which runs

any medicine to allow a 2nd click on the same choice ?

thnx a lot
sorry for my english
Bernard, from France

[Martin Honnen]

Re: 2nd click ineffective in drop-down list



Bernard Philip wrote:[color=blue]
> hey everybody
> i have a dropdown list opening a window, ie
> <SELECT onchange=openwi ndow()..>
> <OPTION value=....
> <..choice1..>
> <..choice2..>
> when clicking on an choice
>
> if i clear this window, and click again
> on the same choice, nothing happens
> i must click another choice, and then
> come back on the first, which runs
>
> any medicine to allow a 2nd click on the same choice ?[/color]

You could deselect the option
<select onchange="openw indow(); this.selectedIn dex = -1;"
that way the user has to select the option again and the browsers
recognizes a change that triggers onchange.

--

Martin Honnen

http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/

[Lasse Reichstein Nielsen]

Re: 2nd click ineffective in drop-down list

Martin Honnen <Martin.Honnen@ t-online.de> writes:
[color=blue]
> You could deselect the option
> <select onchange="openw indow(); this.selectedIn dex = -1;"
> that way the user has to select the option again and the browsers
> recognizes a change that triggers onchange.[/color]

And people navigating with a keyboard will be completely lost, not
just highly annoyed as by the original solution.

Don't overuse the onchange event on selectboxes, some people will have
to go through several choises before they reach the one they want.

/L
--
Lasse Reichstein Nielsen - lrn@hotpop.com
Art D'HTML: <URL:http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/randomArtSplit. html>
'Faith without judgement merely degrades the spirit divine.'

[Bernard Philip]

Re: 2nd click ineffective in drop-down list

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:27:40 +0200, Martin Honnen
<Martin.Honnen@ t-online.de> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
>Bernard Philip wrote:[color=green]
>> hey everybody
>> i have a dropdown list opening a window, ie
>> <SELECT onchange=openwi ndow()..>
>> <OPTION value=....
>> <..choice1..>
>> <..choice2..>
>> when clicking on an choice
>>
>> if i clear this window, and click again
>> on the same choice, nothing happens
>> i must click another choice, and then
>> come back on the first, which runs
>>
>> any medicine to allow a 2nd click on the same choice ?[/color]
>
>You could deselect the option
> <select onchange="openw indow(); this.selectedIn dex = -1;"
>that way the user has to select the option again and the browsers
>recognizes a change that triggers onchange.[/color]
thnx a lot for your quick answer, Martin,
and congratulations , it runs
(the name inside the dropdown-box
is blank the 2nd time, but it seems a small problem)

best regards

[Bernard Philip]

Re: 2nd click ineffective in drop-down list

On 04 Aug 2003 15:31:45 +0200, Lasse Reichstein Nielsen
<lrn@hotpop.com > wrote:
[color=blue]
>Martin Honnen <Martin.Honnen@ t-online.de> writes:
>[color=green]
>> You could deselect the option
>> <select onchange="openw indow(); this.selectedIn dex = -1;"
>> that way the user has to select the option again and the browsers
>> recognizes a change that triggers onchange.[/color]
>
>And people navigating with a keyboard will be completely lost, not
>just highly annoyed as by the original solution.
>
>Don't overuse the onchange event on selectboxes, some people will have
>to go through several choises before they reach the one they want.
>[/color]
when using mouse only, the solution proposed by Martin seems ok for me
why do you use keyboard ? quicker ? mouse broken ?
regards
B.

[Bernard Philip]

Re: 2nd click ineffective in drop-down list

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:39:00 +0200, Martin Honnen
<Martin.Honnen@ t-online.de> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
>Bernard Philip wrote:[color=green]
>> hey everybody
>> i have a dropdown list opening a window, ie
>> <SELECT onchange=openwi ndow()..>
>> <OPTION value=....
>> <..choice1..>
>> <..choice2..>
>> when clicking on an choice
>>
>> if i clear this window, and click again
>> on the same choice, nothing happens
>> i must click another choice, and then
>> come back on the first, which runs
>>
>> any medicine to allow a 2nd click on the same choice ?[/color]
>
>With Netscape 6/7 and with Opera 7 you could use onclick instead of
>onchange and do the following
>
><html>
><head>
><title>selec t and onclick</title>
><script type="text/javascript">
>function showSelectedOpt ion (select, evt) {
> if (select != evt.target) {
> var selectedOption = select.options[select.selected Index];
> if (selectedOption ) {
> alert(selectedO ption.text + '; ' + selectedOption. value);
> }
> }
>}
></script>
></head>
><body>
><p>
><select onclick="showSe lectedOption(th is, event);">
><option value="http://www.kibo.com/">Visit GOD</option>
><option value="http://www.lancearmstr ong.com/">Visit the bike GOD</option>
></select>
></p>
></body>
></html>
>
>It doesn't work with IE however[/color]
IE is the target for my pages,
so I prefer your 1st solution (index=-1)

thnx again, Martin
Bernie, from Paris

[Richard Hockey]

Re: 2nd click ineffective in drop-down list


"Bernard Philip" <bernard.philip @nospam.fr> wrote in message
news:1jqsiv4tqf rv1vkiqd8futo9e 0naqmie32@4ax.c om...[color=blue]
> On 04 Aug 2003 15:31:45 +0200, Lasse Reichstein Nielsen
> <lrn@hotpop.com > wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Martin Honnen <Martin.Honnen@ t-online.de> writes:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> You could deselect the option
> >> <select onchange="openw indow(); this.selectedIn dex = -1;"
> >> that way the user has to select the option again and the browsers
> >> recognizes a change that triggers onchange.[/color]
> >
> >And people navigating with a keyboard will be completely lost, not
> >just highly annoyed as by the original solution.
> >
> >Don't overuse the onchange event on selectboxes, some people will have
> >to go through several choises before they reach the one they want.
> >[/color]
> when using mouse only, the solution proposed by Martin seems ok for me
> why do you use keyboard ? quicker ? mouse broken ?[/color]

How about you are blind or partially sighted, and you use a screenreader to
access the web page, controlling it via the keyboard?
[color=blue]
> regards
> B.
>[/color]

[Lasse Reichstein Nielsen]

Re: 2nd click ineffective in drop-down list

Bernard Philip <bernard.philip @nospam.fr> writes:
[color=blue]
> when using mouse only, the solution proposed by Martin seems ok for me
> why do you use keyboard ? quicker ? mouse broken ?
> regards[/color]

I don't, but there are people who do. Some because they like it
better, others because they have a physical condition that prevents
them from using a mouse.

/L
--
Lasse Reichstein Nielsen - lrn@hotpop.com
Art D'HTML: <URL:http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/randomArtSplit. html>
'Faith without judgement merely degrades the spirit divine.'

[HikksNotAtHome]

Re: 2nd click ineffective in drop-down list

In article <k79t79no.fsf@h otpop.com>, Lasse Reichstein Nielsen <lrn@hotpop.com >
writes:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> when using mouse only, the solution proposed by Martin seems ok for me
>> why do you use keyboard ? quicker ? mouse broken ?
>> regards[/color]
>
>I don't, but there are people who do. Some because they like it
>better, others because they have a physical condition that prevents
>them from using a mouse.[/color]

Ever tried filling out forms with a mouse? I can navigate the form quicker, and
fill it out quicker, with my keyboard than I can my mouse. Not to mention, when
I encounter a webpage that has dates in select lists, and I have to choose my
birthday, it gets annoying to scroll to the bottom to find december, then
scroll to near the bottom to find 22, then scroll almost to the bottom to find
1966. All of which I can do a lot quicker with my keyboard than my mouse. There
is more to keyboard navigation than just disabilities.
--
Randy
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