Array element assignment

[Berislav Lopac]

Does anyone has experience/information about the performance of the array
elements assignment?

Specifically, which is more efficient:

var myArray = new Array(a, b, c, d);

or

var myArray = new Array();
myArray[] = a;
myArray[] = b;
myArray[] = c;
myArray[] = d;


Specifically, I'm talking about multi-dimensional arrays with, all together,
several thousand elements in them.

Berislav

[Dietmar Meier]

Re: Array element assignment

Berislav Lopac wrote:
[color=blue]
> Specifically, which is more efficient:
>
> var myArray = new Array(a, b, c, d);
>
> or
>
> var myArray = new Array();
> myArray[] = a;[/color]

This results into a syntax error. Do you mean:
myArray[myArray.length] = a;
?

ciao, dhgm

[Berislav Lopac]

Re: Array element assignment

Dietmar Meier wrote:[color=blue]
> Berislav Lopac wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Specifically, which is more efficient:
>>
>> var myArray = new Array(a, b, c, d);
>>
>> or
>>
>> var myArray = new Array();
>> myArray[] = a;[/color]
>
> This results into a syntax error. Do you mean:
> myArray[myArray.length] = a;
> ?
>
> ciao, dhgm[/color]

Of course. I was still thinking in PHP when writing this.

Berislav

[Mick White]

Re: Array element assignment

Berislav Lopac wrote:
[color=blue]
> Does anyone has experience/information about the performance of the array
> elements assignment?
>
> Specifically, which is more efficient:
>
> var myArray = new Array(a, b, c, d);
>
> or[/color]
Literals:
var myArray = [a, b, c, d];
//Not more efficient, perhaps, but less to write.
//And:

var my2dimArray = [[a,b,c,d],[1,2,3,4],["a1","b2"," c3]]
var a_to_d = my2dimArray[0]
//or

var steakSauce = [[a,b,c,d],[1,2,3,4],["a1","b2"," c3]][2][0]

Mick

[Grant Wagner]

Re: Array element assignment

"Berislav Lopac" <berislav.lopac @lopsica.com> wrote in message
news:ctas00$7vg $1@garrison.glo balnet.hr...[color=blue]
> Does anyone has experience/information about the performance of the
> array elements assignment?
>
> Specifically, which is more efficient:
>
> var myArray = new Array(a, b, c, d);
>
> or
>
> var myArray = new Array();
> myArray[] = a;
> myArray[] = b;
> myArray[] = c;
> myArray[] = d;
>
>
> Specifically, I'm talking about multi-dimensional arrays with, all
> together, several thousand elements in them.[/color]

I'm on a roll with this today, but, and I'll say it again: if you're
asking this sort of question, you're using the wrong tool for the job.

<url: http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/ar.../18/53388.aspx />

"High performance is unimportant -- as long as the page doesn't appear
to hang, its fast enough. "

"Do not rely on "tips and tricks" for performance. People will tell you
"declared variables are faster than undeclared variables" and "modulus
is slower than bit shift" and all kinds of nonsense. Ignore them.
That's like mowing your lawn by going after random blades of grass with
nail scissors. You need to find the WORST thing, and fix it first.
That means measuring. Get some tools -- Visual Studio Analyzer can do
some limited script profiling, as can the Numega script profiler, but
even just putting some logging into the code that dumps out millisecond
timings is a good way to start. Once you know what the slowest thing
is, you can concentrate on modularizing and fixing it. "

<script type="text/javascript">
var t = (new Date()).getTime ();
for (var count = 0; count < 1000; ++count)
{
var a = new Array(10);
var ii = a.length;
while (ii-- > 0)
{
a[ii] = new Array(10);
var jj = a[ii].length;
while (jj-- > 0)
{
a[ii][jj] = 9e9;
}
}
}
document.write( ((new Date()).getTime () - t) + '<br>');
var t = (new Date()).getTime ();
for (var count = 0; count < 1000; ++count)
{
var a = new Array(
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9)
);
}
document.write( ((new Date()).getTime () - t) + '<br>');
</script>

Creating 1000 - 10 x 10 arrays takes less than a second on my machine
either way. What difference does it make if one takes 1/4 of a second
and the other takes 1/2 second. Both are faster than the human being
looking at the Web page. Write mantainable code.

--
Grant Wagner <gwagner@agrico reunited.com>
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq

[Dr John Stockton]

Re: Array element assignment

JRS: In article <ctas00$7vg$1@g arrison.globaln et.hr>, dated Thu, 27 Jan
2005 14:57:21, seen in news:comp.lang. javascript, Berislav Lopac
<berislav.lopac @lopsica.com> posted :[color=blue]
>Does anyone has experience/information about the performance of the array
>elements assignment?
>
>Specifically , which is more efficient:[/color]
[color=blue]
> ...[/color]

You can measure the execution time in the browser(s) that you use; if
the difference(s) are not significant in comparison for the time taken
for everything, then they don't matter for you and probably not for
anyone else.

For example, I've used

function Timer() { var J, K, M=30, N=(50000/M)|0, D0, D1, D2, D3
D0 = new Date()
K = N ; while (--K) { J = M ; while (--J) { } }
D1 = new Date()
K = N ; while (--K) { J = M ; while (--J) lz(J) }
D2 = new Date()
K = N ; while (--K) { J = M ; while (--J) LZ(J) }
D3 = new Date()
alert('Nul ' + (D1-D0) + ', lz ' + (D2-D1) + ', LZ ' + (D3-D2)) }

to compare

function LZ(x) { return (x<0||x>=10?"": "0") + x }

function lz(x) { var t = String(x)
return t.length==1 ? "0"+t : t }

with the result that LZ seems about 25% better.

Those with faster computers may need to increase the big number.

--
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[Randell D.]

Re: Array element assignment

Grant Wagner wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Berislav Lopac" <berislav.lopac @lopsica.com> wrote in message
> news:ctas00$7vg $1@garrison.glo balnet.hr...
>[color=green]
>>Does anyone has experience/information about the performance of the
>>array elements assignment?
>>
>>Specificall y, which is more efficient:
>>
>>var myArray = new Array(a, b, c, d);
>>
>>or
>>
>>var myArray = new Array();
>>myArray[] = a;
>>myArray[] = b;
>>myArray[] = c;
>>myArray[] = d;
>>
>>
>>Specificall y, I'm talking about multi-dimensional arrays with, all
>>together, several thousand elements in them.[/color]
>
>
> I'm on a roll with this today, but, and I'll say it again: if you're
> asking this sort of question, you're using the wrong tool for the job.
>
> <url: http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/ar.../18/53388.aspx />
>
> "High performance is unimportant -- as long as the page doesn't appear
> to hang, its fast enough. "
>
> "Do not rely on "tips and tricks" for performance. People will tell you
> "declared variables are faster than undeclared variables" and "modulus
> is slower than bit shift" and all kinds of nonsense. Ignore them.
> That's like mowing your lawn by going after random blades of grass with
> nail scissors. You need to find the WORST thing, and fix it first.
> That means measuring. Get some tools -- Visual Studio Analyzer can do
> some limited script profiling, as can the Numega script profiler, but
> even just putting some logging into the code that dumps out millisecond
> timings is a good way to start. Once you know what the slowest thing
> is, you can concentrate on modularizing and fixing it. "
>
> <script type="text/javascript">
> var t = (new Date()).getTime ();
> for (var count = 0; count < 1000; ++count)
> {
> var a = new Array(10);
> var ii = a.length;
> while (ii-- > 0)
> {
> a[ii] = new Array(10);
> var jj = a[ii].length;
> while (jj-- > 0)
> {
> a[ii][jj] = 9e9;
> }
> }
> }
> document.write( ((new Date()).getTime () - t) + '<br>');
> var t = (new Date()).getTime ();
> for (var count = 0; count < 1000; ++count)
> {
> var a = new Array(
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9),
> new Array(9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9, 9e9)
> );
> }
> document.write( ((new Date()).getTime () - t) + '<br>');
> </script>
>
> Creating 1000 - 10 x 10 arrays takes less than a second on my machine
> either way. What difference does it make if one takes 1/4 of a second
> and the other takes 1/2 second. Both are faster than the human being
> looking at the Web page. Write mantainable code.
>[/color]

I've got about six months experience with js and agree for the most part
with your arguements - however I would recommend

var myArray = new Array(a, b, c, d);

instead of

var myArray = new Array();
myArray[] = a;
myArray[] = b;
myArray[] = c;
myArray[] = d;


The OP mentions they will have several thousands of elements - If this
is true, using the former method would at very least mean less data over
the wire. Small gains - but as the saying goes - look after the pennies
and the pounds will look after themselves...

randelld

[Berislav Lopac]

Re: Array element assignment

Grant Wagner wrote:[color=blue]
> "High performance is unimportant -- as long as the page doesn't appear
> to hang, its fast enough. "[/color]

Actually, it does, on some machines (I didn't get the specs, but my guess
they are not top of the line).

Berislav