user needs help badly!

**Andrew Thompson** · Jul 23 '05, 01:29 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:47:22 -0400, YZK wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hello. I'm not a Web developer, just a user, and I think I may have
> somehow messed myself up majorly. I'm not quite sure how. Right now,
> javascript used by websites I go to either does not work at all, or
> works sporadically. I'm talking about things like Hotmail, Yahoo Address
> Book, buttons on various sites, etc.. I'm a computer person, but not a
> Web OR Javascript person.[/color]

Are you *sure* this is Javascript and not Java?
Give some specifific URL's and I can check them.

In either case I think it is probably
unnecessary to reload the system.. I
take it that your reference to Win98
means you are using the OS component
to browse?

In that case, the easiest fix is probably
to download a browser. Mozilla/Netscape
or Opera are great browsers. ..More
secure than IE as well.

If OTOH, you wish to fix your OS component,
I imagine it is Java that is broken (I give
it odds of 5:1)..

Also, quick check, have you installed any
pop-up blockers recently? The Google toolbar?

--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology

**YZK** · Jul 23 '05, 01:29 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. I had been programming in Java, so I
don't THINK it's Java that's broken. I usually use Mozilla Firefox
0.9.3, but occasionally Nescape 7.1, as my browser (with their
Thunderbird as my mail client), and yes, I do block popup windows, both
via the browsers and via WebWasher software.

Any further ideeas? (, anyone?)
yzk

Andrew Thompson wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:47:22 -0400, YZK wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Hello. I'm not a Web developer, just a user, and I think I may have
>>somehow messed myself up majorly. I'm not quite sure how. Right now,
>>javascript used by websites I go to either does not work at all, or
>>works sporadically. I'm talking about things like Hotmail, Yahoo Address
>>Book, buttons on various sites, etc.. I'm a computer person, but not a
>>Web OR Javascript person.[/color]
>
>
> Are you *sure* this is Javascript and not Java?
> Give some specifific URL's and I can check them.
>
> In either case I think it is probably
> unnecessary to reload the system.. I
> take it that your reference to Win98
> means you are using the OS component
> to browse?
>
> In that case, the easiest fix is probably
> to download a browser. Mozilla/Netscape
> or Opera are great browsers. ..More
> secure than IE as well.
>
> If OTOH, you wish to fix your OS component,
> I imagine it is Java that is broken (I give
> it odds of 5:1)..
>
> Also, quick check, have you installed any
> pop-up blockers recently? The Google toolbar?
>[/color]

**PDannyD** · Jul 23 '05, 01:29 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

"YZK" <yaakovk@nyct.n et> wrote in message
news:Mvm%c.1383 $Ae.70@newsread 1.dllstx09.us.t o.verio.net[color=blue]
> Hello. I'm not a Web developer, just a user, and I think I may have
> somehow messed myself up majorly. I'm not quite sure how. Right now,
> javascript used by websites I go to either does not work at all, or
> works sporadically. I'm talking about things like Hotmail, Yahoo
> Address Book, buttons on various sites, etc.. I'm a computer person,
> but not a Web OR Javascript person.[/color]

Have you accidentally disabled scripts in the security settings?
Do you have any anti-virus/firewall software that blocks scripts?

**YZK** · Jul 23 '05, 01:29 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

Both my browsers have scripts (including Javascript) enabled, and I
don't believe ZoneAlert (Alarm?) blocks any scripts. Thanks.
yzk

PDannyD wrote:
[color=blue]
> "YZK" <yaakovk@nyct.n et> wrote in message
> news:Mvm%c.1383 $Ae.70@newsread 1.dllstx09.us.t o.verio.net
>[color=green]
>>Hello. I'm not a Web developer, just a user, and I think I may have
>>somehow messed myself up majorly. I'm not quite sure how. Right now,
>>javascript used by websites I go to either does not work at all, or
>>works sporadically. I'm talking about things like Hotmail, Yahoo
>>Address Book, buttons on various sites, etc.. I'm a computer person,
>>but not a Web OR Javascript person.[/color]
>
>
> Have you accidentally disabled scripts in the security settings?
> Do you have any anti-virus/firewall software that blocks scripts?[/color]

**Andrew Thompson** · Jul 23 '05, 01:29 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:02:15 -0400, YZK wrote:

Please do not top-post, you generally
miss important things, and it makes the
conversation very confusing..
<http://www.physci.org/codes/javafaq.jsp#net iquette>

** See further comments in-line. **
[color=blue]
> Andrew Thompson wrote:[color=green]
>> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:47:22 -0400, YZK wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ...Right now,
>>>javascript used by websites I go to either does not work at all, or
>>>works sporadically.[/color][/color][/color]
....[color=blue][color=green]
>> Are you *sure* this is Javascript and not Java?[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. I had been programming in Java, so I
> don't THINK it's Java that's broken.[/color]

You do not seem that sure, so.. *
[color=blue][color=green]
>> In either case I think it is probably
>> unnecessary to reload the system.. I
>> take it that your reference to Win98
>> means you are using the OS component
>> to browse?
>>
>> In that case, the easiest fix is probably
>> to download a browser. Mozilla/Netscape
>> or Opera are great browsers. ..More
>> secure than IE as well.[/color][/color]
...[color=blue]
>..I usually use Mozilla Firefox
> 0.9.3, but occasionally Nescape 7.1, as my browser (with their
> Thunderbird as my mail client),[/color]

Moz. 1.3
Edit | Preferences | Advanced Script and Plugins |
(Enable JavaScript for - Navigator)

Is your NN/Moz. prefs set to true?
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Also, quick check, have you installed any
>> pop-up blockers recently? The Google toolbar?[/color][/color]
...[color=blue]
>...and yes, I do block popup windows, both
> via the browsers and via WebWasher software.[/color]

That could be the source of it, I have
a page that will check allow you to check
whether Java pop-ups are enabled, but
not specifically Javascript.. but.. **
[color=blue]
> Any further ideeas? (, anyone?)[/color]
....

* GIVE US SOMETHING CONCRETE..
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Give some specifific URL's and I can check them.[/color][/color]

We have not even heard what the actual problem
is ..you said it 'does not work at all' which
is a bit too vague to go on.

Both Java and Javascript have output consoles,
have you checked them for errors?

** You mention you have pop-up blockers but do
not rule out that it is only a problem with
things that pop-up.

So, I suggest (as I did before) that you provide
some specific URL's, 'cos getting useful
information from you is akin to pulling teeth.

--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology

**YZK** · Jul 23 '05, 01:29 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

Andrew Thompson wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:02:15 -0400, YZK wrote:
>
> Please do not top-post, you generally
> miss important things, and it makes the
> conversation very confusing..
> <http://www.physci.org/codes/javafaq.jsp#net iquette>
>
> ** See further comments in-line. **
>
>[color=green]
>>Andrew Thompson wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:47:22 -0400, YZK wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> ...Right now,
>>>>javascrip t used by websites I go to either does not work at all, or
>>>>works sporadically.[/color][/color]
>
> ...
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>Are you *sure* this is Javascript and not Java?[/color][/color]
>
>[color=green]
>>Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. I had been programming in Java, so I
>>don't THINK it's Java that's broken.[/color]
>
>
> You do not seem that sure, so.. *
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>In either case I think it is probably
>>>unnecessar y to reload the system.. I
>>>take it that your reference to Win98
>>>means you are using the OS component
>>>to browse?
>>>
>>>In that case, the easiest fix is probably
>>>to download a browser. Mozilla/Netscape
>>>or Opera are great browsers. ..More
>>>secure than IE as well.[/color][/color]
>
> ..
>[color=green]
>>..I usually use Mozilla Firefox
>>0.9.3, but occasionally Nescape 7.1, as my browser (with their
>>Thunderbird as my mail client),[/color]
>
>
> Moz. 1.3
> Edit | Preferences | Advanced Script and Plugins |
> (Enable JavaScript for - Navigator)
>
> Is your NN/Moz. prefs set to true?
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>Also, quick check, have you installed any
>>>pop-up blockers recently? The Google toolbar?[/color][/color]
>
> ..
>[color=green]
>>...and yes, I do block popup windows, both
>>via the browsers and via WebWasher software.[/color]
>
>
> That could be the source of it, I have
> a page that will check allow you to check
> whether Java pop-ups are enabled, but
> not specifically Javascript.. but.. **
>
>[color=green]
>>Any further ideeas? (, anyone?)[/color]
>
> ...
>
> * GIVE US SOMETHING CONCRETE..
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>Give some specifific URL's and I can check them.[/color][/color]
>
>
> We have not even heard what the actual problem
> is ..you said it 'does not work at all' which
> is a bit too vague to go on.
>
> Both Java and Javascript have output consoles,
> have you checked them for errors?
>
> ** You mention you have pop-up blockers but do
> not rule out that it is only a problem with
> things that pop-up.
>
> So, I suggest (as I did before) that you provide
> some specific URL's, 'cos getting useful
> information from you is akin to pulling teeth.
>[/color]

OK, here's "something" from my Javascript console:

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
code: 0x80520001 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ UNRECOGNIZED_PA TH)
[nsILocalFile.in itWithPath]" nsresult: "0x80520001
(NS_ERROR_FILE_ UNRECOGNIZED_PA TH)" location: "JS frame ::
chrome://browser/content/search.xml :: initialize :: line 31" data: no]

I don't know if is "the big enchilada," nor do I know just what caused
it, but perhaps it's a start. I don't even see how to display a Java
console. Clicking Mozilla Firefox Help, then Help Contents, and
Search-ing for "Java" yields only "JavaScript Console."

As far as something "a little less vague," EVERY TIME I try to click on
a link or button (JButton, perhaps) that is underpinned by Javascript
code, I see "Javascript <whatever>" and NOTHING HAPPENS. It's like a GUI
without event handlers!

Attempting to listen to online radio station KSJB AM, at URL
http://www.warpradio.com/popTuner.asp?id=7516, I try pushing the labeled
button (Label: Streaming Audio) Click Here to Listen, and see
"javascript
void(window.ope n('tuner.asp?id =7516&page=popT uner','popup',' toolbar=no,loca tion=no,scrollb ars=yes,stat... "
and NOTHING HAPPENS.

For Yahoo Address Book from within Yahoo Messenger, I get "An error has
occurred in the script on this page : Line 2, Character 2, Expected '\',
Code 0, URL http://address.yahoo.c om/yab?v=MT&a0=<my Yahoo ID>, and the
question "Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?".
Continuing on to an entry in the Address book, I get the same error as
above, with URL
http://address.yahoo.c om/yab/us?.rand=100432 8337&v=MT&A=t&i d=80&stC=All&st P=1&stP2=1&stT= v&stI=0&stA=0&a 0=<my
Yahoo ID>, and the same question. Attempting to delete the entry gives
me the same error, with URL
http://address.yahoo.c om/yab/us?.rand=431595 127&v=MT&id=80& A=f&DEL&a0=<my
Yahoo ID>&stC=All&stP =1&stP2=1&stT=v &stI=0&stA=0
Nothing gets deleted.

From within Yahoo Address Book (NOT going thru Messenger) I attempt to
delete an entry. My JavaScript Console shows:

Error: syntax error
Source File:

http://us.js1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/lib/pim/r/medici/5n_c/mail/mailcommonlib.js

Line: 91, Column: 37
Source Code:
else o.parentNode.ap pendChild(node)

Error: ylib_keyevt is not defined
Source File: http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ym/log...=20bsmri1u0npl
Line: 144

Error: Tabs_Init is not defined
Source File: http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ym/log...=20bsmri1u0npl
Line: 158

Error: syntax error
Source File:

http://us.js1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/lib/pim/r/medici/5n_c/mail/mailcommonlib.js

Line: 91, Column: 37
Source Code:
else o.parentNode.ap pendChild(node)

Error: missing } in compound statement
Source File:

http://yahoo.serving-sys.com/yahoo.eyeblaster.com/PL_yahoo/BigScripts/BrowserCheck_56_4.js

Line: 134, Column: 16
Source Code:
fIsCompat = true;

Error: ylib_keyevt is not defined
Source File:

http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowFolder?YY=79992&box=%40B%40Bulk&YN=1

Line: 317

Error: LHCol_Init is not defined
Source File:

http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowFolder?YY=79992&box=%40B%40Bulk&YN=1

Line: 810

Error: Tabs_Init is not defined
Source File:

http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowFolder?YY=79992&box=%40B%40Bulk&YN=1

Line: 331

Error: syntax error
Source File:

http://us.js1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/lib/pim/r/medici/5n_c/mail/mailcommonlib.js

Line: 91, Column: 37
Source Code:
else o.parentNode.ap pendChild(node)

Error: missing } in compound statement
Source File:

http://yahoo.serving-sys.com/yahoo.eyeblaster.com/PL_yahoo/BigScripts/BrowserCheck_56_4.js

Line: 134, Column: 16
Source Code:
fIsCompat = true;

Error: ylib_keyevt is not defined
Source File:

http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=257_0_1102_1374_3643_0_522_9922_2821690249_oSOYkYn4Ur6Rg9euJfSMZ2XJUpXy9M8ud7zxUFO7KUwzcbhNA3zQrPQea7xAEJkIajcXVdaMmf2W.1OBqv3geUlTtwRmzrMHprOomggaVK.tePNOYdzDsdYG5ktfYJzmd8QZvjdsdPN16NBS79dn.AqSRoaEHRDy7cHGeneIdqs-&Idx=0&YY=89906&inc=25&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=&head=&box=%40B%40Bulk

Line: 284

Error: LHCol_Init is not defined
Source File:

http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=257_0_1102_1374_3643_0_522_9922_2821690249_oSOYkYn4Ur6Rg9euJfSMZ2XJUpXy9M8ud7zxUFO7KUwzcbhNA3zQrPQea7xAEJkIajcXVdaMmf2W.1OBqv3geUlTtwRmzrMHprOomggaVK.tePNOYdzDsdYG5ktfYJzmd8QZvjdsdPN16NBS79dn.AqSRoaEHRDy7cHGeneIdqs-&Idx=0&YY=89906&inc=25&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=&head=&box=%40B%40Bulk

Line: 501

Error: MenuButton is not defined
Source File:

http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=257_0_1102_1374_3643_0_522_9922_2821690249_oSOYkYn4Ur6Rg9euJfSMZ2XJUpXy9M8ud7zxUFO7KUwzcbhNA3zQrPQea7xAEJkIajcXVdaMmf2W.1OBqv3geUlTtwRmzrMHprOomggaVK.tePNOYdzDsdYG5ktfYJzmd8QZvjdsdPN16NBS79dn.AqSRoaEHRDy7cHGeneIdqs-&Idx=0&YY=89906&inc=25&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=&head=&box=%40B%40Bulk

Line: 887

and it repeats ..Tabs_Init, syntax error, missing }, ylib_keyevt,
LHCol_Init, etc. (same lines)

It is then followed by

Error: missing ; after for-loop initializer
Source File:

http://us.js1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/lib/pim/r/medici/6_9/abook/abcommonlib.js

Line: 155, Column: 19
Source Code:
for (var i=nStartIn

Error: yml_hlrow is not defined
Source File: http://address.yahoo.com/yab/us
Line: 160

Error: Tabs_Init is not defined
Source File: http://address.yahoo.com/yab/us
Line: 98

Error: rowObj has no properties

....

finally ending up as
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
code: 0x80520001 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ UNRECOGNIZED_PA TH)
[nsILocalFile.in itWithPath]" nsresult: "0x80520001
(NS_ERROR_FILE_ UNRECOGNIZED_PA TH)" location: "JS frame ::
chrome://browser/content/search.xml :: initialize :: line 31" data: no]

Is any of the above helpful in shooting what may be a bug?

TIA,
yzk

**Andrew Thompson** · Jul 23 '05, 01:30 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:20:00 -0400, YZK wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> ** You mention you have pop-up blockers but do
>> not rule out that it is only a problem with
>> things that pop-up.[/color][/color]
...[color=blue]
> OK, here's "something" from my Javascript console:[/color]

Now we're cookin'
[color=blue]
> I don't know if is "the big enchilada," nor do I know just what caused
> it, but perhaps it's a start. I don't even see how to display a Java
> console.[/color]

Forget that for the minute, your
output supports that it is JS..

( OK ..like you were saying all along ;-)
[color=blue]
>..Clicking Mozilla Firefox Help, then Help Contents, and
> Search-ing for "Java" yields only "JavaScript Console."[/color]
[color=blue]
> Attempting to listen to online radio station KSJB AM, at URL
> http://www.warpradio.com/popTuner.asp?id=7516, I try pushing the labeled
> button (Label: Streaming Audio) Click Here to Listen, and see
> "javascript
> void(window.ope n('tuner.asp?id =7516&page=popT uner','popup',' toolbar=no,loca tion=no,scrollb ars=yes,stat... "[/color]

Uh-huh.. I think the vital part of
that is 'popup'..
[color=blue]
> and NOTHING HAPPENS.[/color]

It could be one of your pop-up blockers is
destroying the, ..what is it a, 'tuner control'
or similar, pop up window?

If that is the case, any other script that
tries to connect to the pop-up window will
probably fail.

Can you open a 'prefs' screen for your pop-up
blockers? Sometimes they offer an 'allow
friendly pop-ups by URL' option. If you
can let the blocker know that you specifically
*do* want the pop-up, they will allow it.

--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology

**YZK** · Jul 23 '05, 01:30 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

Andrew Thompson wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:20:00 -0400, YZK wrote:
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>** You mention you have pop-up blockers but do
>>>not rule out that it is only a problem with
>>>things that pop-up.[/color][/color]
>
> ..
>[color=green]
>>OK, here's "something" from my Javascript console:[/color]
>
>
> Now we're cookin'
>
>[color=green]
>>I don't know if is "the big enchilada," nor do I know just what caused
>>it, but perhaps it's a start. I don't even see how to display a Java
>>console.[/color]
>
>
> Forget that for the minute, your
> output supports that it is JS..
>
> ( OK ..like you were saying all along ;-)
>
>[color=green]
>>..Clicking Mozilla Firefox Help, then Help Contents, and
>>Search-ing for "Java" yields only "JavaScript Console."[/color]
>
>[color=green]
>>Attempting to listen to online radio station KSJB AM, at URL
>>http://www.warpradio.com/popTuner.asp?id=7516, I try pushing the labeled
>>button (Label: Streaming Audio) Click Here to Listen, and see
>>"javascript
>>void(window.o pen('tuner.asp? id=7516&page=po pTuner','popup' ,'toolbar=no,lo cation=no,scrol lbars=yes,stat. .."[/color]
>
>
> Uh-huh.. I think the vital part of
> that is 'popup'..
>
>[color=green]
>>and NOTHING HAPPENS.[/color]
>
>
> It could be one of your pop-up blockers is
> destroying the, ..what is it a, 'tuner control'
> or similar, pop up window?
>
> If that is the case, any other script that
> tries to connect to the pop-up window will
> probably fail.
>
> Can you open a 'prefs' screen for your pop-up
> blockers? Sometimes they offer an 'allow
> friendly pop-ups by URL' option. If you
> can let the blocker know that you specifically
> *do* want the pop-up, they will allow it.
>[/color]
THANK YOU, Mr. Thompson!!! When I added www.warpradio.com to the list of
sites for which I DO want to allow popup windows, the KSJB's "Click Here
to Listen" WORKED!!!!!! I'm going to try the same thing for Yahoo, and
see if it does anything for me.
yzk

P.S. Allowing popups from www.yahoo.com did nothing to clear the errors.

**Andrew Thompson** · Jul 23 '05, 01:30 PM

Re: user needs help badly!

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:42:07 -0400, YZK wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Can you open a 'prefs' screen for your pop-up
>> blockers? Sometimes they offer an 'allow
>> friendly pop-ups by URL' option. If you
>> can let the blocker know that you specifically
>> *do* want the pop-up, they will allow it.
>>[/color]
> THANK YOU, Mr. Thompson!!![/color]

You're welcome.. but..
[color=blue]
>..When I added www.warpradio.com to the list of
> sites for which I DO want to allow popup windows, the KSJB's "Click Here
> to Listen" WORKED!!!!!! I'm going to try the same thing for Yahoo, and
> see if it does anything for me.
> yzk
>
> P.S. Allowing popups from www.yahoo.com did nothing to clear the errors.[/color]

...hmmm. Are you actually getting the
scripts from 'www.yahoo.com' , or perhaps
'mail.yahoo.com ' or such?

I do not know if the blocker is smart enough
to recognise the two as the same (or even if
it is valid to do so) but that may be worth
checking.

--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology

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