On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:35:17 +0800, chris wrote:
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> how would i resize a browser window to a specific size as the page loads,
> using html or javascript[/color]
Why? What is in the pages?
Most of the time it is better to design a
page that fits any screen and let the user
retain control of the size themselves.
Please note that cross-posting to three groups
is generally frowned upon, though I note that
you were unsure which group was best and
did not commit the 'sin' of multi-posting..
I will set the Follow-Ups to the best group,
should you decide to do such a thing,
comp.lang.javas cript.
(While the HTML folks might be more aware of
how to make a page 'squeezy', the JS guru's
are certainly familiar with it.)
"chris" <someone@here.c om> wrote in message
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> how would i resize a browser window to a specific size as the page loads,
> using html or javascript[/color]
Leave the user's window alone.
It might be your website, but it is their computer.
"chris" <someone@here.c om> wrote in message
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> how would i resize a browser window to a specific size as the page loads,
> using html or javascript[/color]
"McKirahan" <News@McKirahan .com> wrote in message
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> "chris" <someone@here.c om> wrote in message
> news:413c2f55$1 @funnel.arach.n et.au...[color=green]
> > how would i resize a browser window to a specific size as the page[/color][/color]
loads,[color=blue][color=green]
> > using html or javascript[/color]
>
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>resizeto .htm</title>
> </head>
> <body onload="moveTo( 0,0); resizeTo(400,30 0);">
> </body>
> </html>[/color]
Congratulations . You've shown the OP a great way to confuse and annoy
visitors.
Karl Groves wrote:
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> "McKirahan" <News@McKirahan .com> wrote in message
> news:nK%_c.2530 41$8_6.236481@a ttbi_s04...
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>>"chris" <someone@here.c om> wrote in message
>>news:413c2f55 $1@funnel.arach .net.au...
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>>>how would i resize a browser window to a specific size as the page[/color][/color]
>
> loads,
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>>>using html or javascript[/color]
>>
>><html>
>><head>
>><title>resize to.htm</title>
>></head>
>><body onload="moveTo( 0,0); resizeTo(400,30 0);">
>></body>
>></html>[/color]
>
>
>
> Congratulations . You've shown the OP a great way to confuse and annoy
> visitors.[/color]
Not only that, but a method that fails in some scenarios.
"Karl Groves" <karl@NOSPAMkar lcore.com> wrote in news:chi1uq$sru $1@ngspool-
d02.news.aol.co m:
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> "McKirahan" <News@McKirahan .com> wrote in message
> news:nK%_c.2530 41$8_6.236481@a ttbi_s04...[color=green]
>> "chris" <someone@here.c om> wrote in message
>> news:413c2f55$1 @funnel.arach.n et.au...[color=darkred]
>> > how would i resize a browser window to a specific size as the page[/color][/color]
> loads,[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > using html or javascript[/color]
>>
>> <html>
>> <head>
>> <title>resizeto .htm</title>
>> </head>
>> <body onload="moveTo( 0,0); resizeTo(400,30 0);">
>> </body>
>> </html>[/color]
>
>
> Congratulations . You've shown the OP a great way to confuse and annoy
> visitors.[/color]
So you think we should hide information from them?
The next thing you know, we'll stop teaching chemistry in high school, lest
anybody figure out how to make a bomb.
"chris" <someone@here.c om> wrote in news:413c2f55$1 @funnel.arach.n et.au:
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> how would i resize a browser window to a specific size as the page
> loads, using html or javascript[/color]
The real question is, how could you design your page better so it doesn't
need this behavior. After all, you can't do what you want on many
browsers, including ones with javascript selectively turned on.
On 6 Sep 2004 17:13:40 GMT, Sam Hughes <hughes@rpi.edu > wrote:
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> "Karl Groves" <karl@NOSPAMkar lcore.com> wrote in
> news:chi1uq$sru $1@ngspool-
> d02.news.aol.co m:[color=green]
>> Congratulations . You've shown the OP a great way to confuse and annoy
>> visitors.[/color]
>
> So you think we should hide information from them?
>
> The next thing you know, we'll stop teaching chemistry in high school,
> lest
> anybody figure out how to make a bomb.[/color]
There's a difference, in my opinion.
First, if we teach the chemical method of producing a huge explosion, we
also must responsibly mention that it's probably not a good idea to do
this in your basement or classroom.
Second, and I've used this analogy before, if someone wrote to you asking
what the best methods of suicide were, and it was clear from their message
that the question was not merely academic, I'm sure you'd be reluctant to
entertain the idea of suicide with this person. Rather, I'd hope you'd
attempt to help them out of their current situation toward a more healthy
one.
When people ask questions which are not answerable directly without ending
up as suporting poor practice, and we do so anyway, we're advising someone
to do something which is bad for the web.
This is why so many questions here are answered with "Why do you want to
do this? It's going to lead to no good." Because it's the only responsible
answer.
Neal <neal413@yahoo. com> wrote in
news:opsdw050n6 6v6656@news.ind ividual.net:
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> When people ask questions which are not answerable directly without
> ending up as suporting poor practice, and we do so anyway, we're
> advising someone to do something which is bad for the web.
>
> This is why so many questions here are answered with "Why do you want
> to do this? It's going to lead to no good." Because it's the only
> responsible answer.[/color]
But alas, in this case, other people have already given that aspect of the
answer.
On 6 Sep 2004 17:13:40 GMT, Sam Hughes wrote:
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>> Congratulations . You've shown the OP a great way to confuse and annoy
>> visitors.[/color]
>
> So you think we should hide information from them?[/color]
What, the visitors? No, of course not.
Ohh.. if you mean the naiive web-authors? Probably.
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> The next thing you know, we'll stop teaching chemistry in high school,[/color]
Nobody ever needed Javascript to make
bread rise, or perform an alkilinity
or soil or water test...
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>..lest anybody figure out how to make a bomb.[/color]
I do not think there is any case to compare the two.
"Sam Hughes" <hughes@rpi.edu > wrote in message
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> "Karl Groves" <karl@NOSPAMkar lcore.com> wrote in[/color]
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> d02.news.aol.co m:[color=green]
> > Congratulations . You've shown the OP a great way to confuse and annoy
> > visitors.[/color]
>
> So you think we should hide information from them?
>
> The next thing you know, we'll stop teaching chemistry in high school,[/color]
lest[color=blue]
> anybody figure out how to make a bomb.[/color]
A plethora of lessons learned today on alt.html.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Hughes has just demonstrated the "slippery slope".
Sam Hughes said:[color=blue]
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>"Karl Groves" <karl@NOSPAMkar lcore.com> wrote in news:chi1uq$sru $1@ngspool-[/color]
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>> Congratulations . You've shown the OP a great way to confuse and annoy
>> visitors.[/color]
>
>So you think we should hide information from them?
>
>The next thing you know, we'll stop teaching chemistry in high school, lest
>anybody figure out how to make a bomb.[/color]
Your analogy is wrong.
If a high school student asks what he could mix together to get
an explosion, it would be irresponsible to give him an easy to
follow recipe. Particularly if you don't at least mention that
it would be a really bad idea to do it.
Sam Hughes wrote:
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> The next thing you know, we'll stop teaching chemistry in high school, lest
> anybody figure out how to make a bomb.[/color]
Teach Chemistry by all means, but if a student comes up to you and asks
for a recipe for Semtex, be suspicious.
--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
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JRS: In article <chhojk$n5n$1@n gspool-d02.news.aol.co m>, dated Mon, 6
Sep 2004 09:27:13, seen in news:comp.lang. javascript, Karl Groves
<karl@NOSPAMkar lcore.com> posted :[color=blue]
>
>"chris" <someone@here.c om> wrote in message
>news:413c2f55$ 1@funnel.arach. net.au...[color=green]
>> how would i resize a browser window to a specific size as the page loads,
>> using html or javascript[/color]
>
>Leave the user's window alone.
>It might be your website, but it is their computer.[/color]
Setting the window size is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, in some
circumstances.
Consider <URL:http://www.merlyn.demo n.co.uk/js-quick.htm>; it is
primarily for my benefit as a local page, but I publish it so that
others may make modify and use their own local copy. It presents some
controls in a form, and sizes itself to fit those controls in my
browser. IIRC, it also fits in MSIE 5.5 or 6; those with browsers in
which it does not fit can adjust the numbers.
Consider my private local home page; it has
<BODY onLoad="window. resizeTo(640, 960)">
because that suits my way of working (/inter alia/, I can normalise the
size of a displayed page by Home, Back).
Granted, resizing can be, and commonly is, misused; but there is no
reason to assert that the poster must want to misuse it. A conditional
warning is enough.
After resizing, one may wish to scroll to a particular location. There
are numerical scrolling commands; but it may be better to set focus to a
suitable element, so that the desired point is reached even if more text
is added above it.
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