"Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

**Martin Honnen** · Jul 23 '05, 01:03 PM

Re: "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

Frances Del Rio wrote:
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> I'm getting Getting "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods in
> IE (IE 6.0..) I saw two posts about this from 7/6 & 7/7.. I suspect,
> like previous poster said, that this has to do w/MS Windows Updates
> (Tools --> Windows Update in IE..) because this started happening to me
> recently (ONLY in IE, works fine in N7), and I updated about two weeks
> ago (AND: this is happening to me also at work, where I have same OS
> (W2000 Pro), and also updated about two weeks ago..) now does Microsoft
> have a system for users to communicate this kind of stuff to them?? this
> bug shouldn't be too hard for them to fix..[/color]

Access denied usually happens when you try to script a window/document
from one host with script in a HTML page loaded from another host. Is
that the case?

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**MikeT** · Jul 23 '05, 01:03 PM

Re: "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

Frances Del Rio <fdr58@yahoo.co m> wrote in message news:<2o8bbeF7v 8mnU1@uni-berlin.de>...[color=blue]
> I'm getting Getting "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods in
> IE (IE 6.0..) I saw two posts about this from 7/6 & 7/7.. I suspect,
> like previous poster said, that this has to do w/MS Windows Updates
> (Tools --> Windows Update in IE..) because this started happening to me
> recently (ONLY in IE, works fine in N7), and I updated about two weeks
> ago (AND: this is happening to me also at work, where I have same OS
> (W2000 Pro), and also updated about two weeks ago..) now does Microsoft
> have a system for users to communicate this kind of stuff to them??
> this bug shouldn't be too hard for them to fix.. thank you for any
> suggestions..
>[/color]

It's not a bug so much as a half-arsed attempt by microsoft to
get around a security problem. If resizeto/moveto are allowed, it
is possible for someone to click on an element with a mousedown
script that moves the window out of the way of the cursor such that
the mouseup event gets sent to whatever was underneath the window
(be that a popunder window or the user's desktop etc).

The proper solution would be to stop the mouse event leaving
IE, but no, they just disabled the ability to move the window
within scripts triggered by certain mouse events.

Moral - don't move the user's windows about, let them do it and
we'll all be happy.

**Frances Del Rio** · Jul 23 '05, 01:05 PM

Re: "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

Martin Honnen wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> Frances Del Rio wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I'm getting Getting "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods
>> in IE (IE 6.0..) I saw two posts about this from 7/6 & 7/7.. I
>> suspect, like previous poster said, that this has to do w/MS Windows
>> Updates (Tools --> Windows Update in IE..) because this started
>> happening to me recently (ONLY in IE, works fine in N7), and I updated
>> about two weeks ago (AND: this is happening to me also at work, where
>> I have same OS (W2000 Pro), and also updated about two weeks ago..)
>> now does Microsoft have a system for users to communicate this kind of
>> stuff to them?? this bug shouldn't be too hard for them to fix..[/color]
>
>
> Access denied usually happens when you try to script a window/document
> from one host with script in a HTML page loaded from another host. Is
> that the case?[/color]

ahhh, I don't quite understand yr question.. JavaScript is client-side,
so either way scripts are run in browser, not on any server.. right now
I'm at work and now at work it works, go figure.. ok, thanks.. Frances

**Michael Winter** · Jul 23 '05, 01:05 PM

Re: "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:23:14 -0400, Frances Del Rio <fdr58@yahoo.co m>
wrote:

[cross-domain security]
[color=blue]
> ahhh, I don't quite understand yr question.. JavaScript is client-side,
> so either way scripts are run in browser, not on any server.. right now
> I'm at work and now at work it works, go figure.. ok, thanks.. Frances[/color]

Martin was referring to a security issue which arises when you try to
access a document that is located on another server. This often occurs
with frames, but it could just as easily apply to a secondary window.

Did the window you were attempting to manipulate contain a document that
came from an external source?

Mike

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**Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn** · Jul 23 '05, 01:05 PM

Re: "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

Frances Del Rio wrote:
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> Martin Honnen wrote:[color=green]
>> Frances Del Rio wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I'm getting Getting "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods
>>> in IE (IE 6.0..) [...][/color]
>>
>> Access denied usually happens when you try to script a window/document
>> from one host with script in a HTML page loaded from another host. Is
>> that the case?[/color]
>
> ahhh, I don't quite understand yr question..[/color]

Yes, indeed you do not.
[color=blue]
> JavaScript is client-side,[/color]

JavaScript is but a language and there are also server-side applications
using it (or its "siblings" like JScript). However, the question is valid
and has indeed to do with client-side scripting, but the term "host" is
bordering to wrong in this context:

<http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/components/same-origin.html>
[color=blue]
> so either way scripts are run in browser, not on any server.. [...][/color]

Does not matter here.

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**Randy Webb** · Jul 23 '05, 01:05 PM

Re: "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
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> JavaScript is but a language and there are also server-side applications
> using it (or its "siblings" like JScript).[/color]

JScript is not the "sibling" of javascript. They are but two
implementations of the same concept. To call them siblings is a mis-nomer.

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**Lasse Reichstein Nielsen** · Jul 23 '05, 01:05 PM

Re: "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

Randy Webb <HikksNotAtHome @aol.com> writes:
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> JScript is not the "sibling" of javascript. They are but two
> implementations of the same concept. To call them siblings is a
> mis-nomer.[/color]

It's not that bad a mis-nomer, is it?

Thomas didn't say JScript was a sibling of "javascript ", but of
"JavaScript " - the name of Netscape Corp.'s browser (and server)
scripting language. That's reasonably called a sibling of "JScript",
the name of Microsoft Corp.'s browser (and server (and more))
scripting language.

Given that we don't have a simple unifying name for the general
concept, some way of saying that JScript, Javascript, Opera's ECMAScript+DOM implementation, etc, are related would be nice.

/L
(I use "Javascript " (small "s", not always capitalized) about the
general concept - ECMAScript implementations + DOM used in browsers,
as well as their predecessors.)
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**Frances Del Rio** · Jul 23 '05, 01:06 PM

Re: "Access is Denied" on resizeTo and moveTo methods

this is home page from my own site, www.francesdelrio.com.. now it
works, both at home and at work.. this is weird.. I mean I haven't done
Windows Upgrade since when I posted this.. VERY WEIRD.. ok, thank you
all for yr responses... (but now I will be forever wary of using this
feature.. I mean I'm designing a site for someone now, and can't take
any chances that they get error messages..) thanks again... Frances

Michael Winter wrote:[color=blue]
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:23:14 -0400, Frances Del Rio <fdr58@yahoo.co m>
> wrote:
>
> [cross-domain security]
>[color=green]
>> ahhh, I don't quite understand yr question.. JavaScript is
>> client-side, so either way scripts are run in browser, not on any
>> server.. right now I'm at work and now at work it works, go
>> figure.. ok, thanks.. Frances[/color]
>
>
> Martin was referring to a security issue which arises when you try to
> access a document that is located on another server. This often occurs
> with frames, but it could just as easily apply to a secondary window.
>
> Did the window you were attempting to manipulate contain a document
> that came from an external source?
>
> Mike
>[/color]

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