charCodeAt()

[Ron Lange]

hi, sometimes I get weird codes by String.charCode At() if I'am converting
binary data (iso-8859-1 written by a java app) into numeric values. For
example instead of 164 I got 8364 (the generic currency symbol '¤'). I
have already tested it by the url-statement javascript:("¤" ).charCodeAt();
in my browser, the result is 164. Some other values exeeding the maximum
of 255 for the first latin-1 conform unicode set just only a bit, but I am
wondering that they're doing it at all.
regards
ron

[Martin Honnen]

Re: charCodeAt()



Ron Lange wrote:
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> sometimes I get weird codes by String.charCode At() if I'am
> converting binary data (iso-8859-1 written by a java app) into numeric
> values. For example instead of 164 I got 8364 (the generic currency
> symbol '¤'). I have already tested it by the url-statement
> javascript:("¤ ").charCodeAt() ; in my browser, the result is 164. Some
> other values exeeding the maximum of 255 for the first latin-1 conform
> unicode set just only a bit, but I am wondering that they're doing it
> at all.[/color]

String.charCode At() is a method on JavaScript strings and JavaScript
doesn't know binary data thus I am not sure what you are doing. I think
you need to provide some more information on what the Java app is doing
and how it interacts with JavaScript (in the browser?, or are you using
some JavaScript implementation like Rhino in a Java app?).
Strings in JavaScript are Unicode encoded since Netscape 4.06 and IE4 thus
"¤".charCodeAt ()
should indeed yield
164
while you should see
8364
as the result of
"€".charCodeA t()

Thus if you are having any problems you want help with you need to
provide more information, if it is JavaScript in a browser tell us the
browser version you are using and how it interacts with that Java app.

--

Martin Honnen

http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/

[Ron Lange]

Re: charCodeAt()

Hi Martin,
the application is writing numeric values as iso-8859-1 encoded characters
(further called binary data;-). These characters are concatenated to one
string var within a javascript in a simple html page, which is then
converted back into numeric values by this script.

And, to prevent further detail questions ;-), of course the javascript
literals quote, newline and backslash are written as octal escape sequence.

In my little computer scientist's brain I assumed something like that a
iso-8859-1 encoded string should be treated as iso-8859-1 string, even the
charCodeAt() method is defined on Unicode or whatever, since the
iso-8859-1 literals should be the lowest 8-bit set. For safety I
determined the document's charset in the html page, too.

Additional information:
Used Browsers: Opera 7.53, Opera 7.52 and Mozilla 1.4 on Solaris and Linux

Regards
Ron

[Ron Lange]

Re: charCodeAt()

I put a java generated page on the net to illustrate my issue.

http://home.teleos-web.de/rlange1/chartest.htm

[Martin Honnen]

Re: charCodeAt()



Ron Lange wrote:

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> the application is writing numeric values as iso-8859-1 encoded
> characters (further called binary data;-). These characters are
> concatenated to one string var within a javascript in a simple html
> page, which is then converted back into numeric values by this script.[/color]

So the Java application is some JSP or servlet or other thing answering
HTTP requests of a browser and sending it a HTTP response, in this case
a HTML page with some JavaScript section embedded, is that right?
[color=blue]
> And, to prevent further detail questions ;-), of course the javascript
> literals quote, newline and backslash are written as octal escape sequence.[/color]
[color=blue]
> In my little computer scientist's brain I assumed something like that a
> iso-8859-1 encoded string should be treated as iso-8859-1 string, even
> the charCodeAt() method is defined on Unicode or whatever, since the
> iso-8859-1 literals should be the lowest 8-bit set. For safety I
> determined the document's charset in the html page, too.[/color]

If it is a HTML page then the browser/user agent will decode that whole
page by trying to use any encoding send in the HTTP response (e.g. in the
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
header)
or if nothing is present there then by looking for a
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
element line in the <head> section of the HTML page.
So whatever your Java app writes in that JavaScript section in the whole
HTML page being sent should match the encoding for the whole page, then
I don't see any problems, the whole script should be passed on to the
script engine in whichever encoding that prefers internally and should
work with Unicode strings.
What happens if you do a view-source of the page your Java app sends, if
you look at the JavaScript string literal in the source, which
characters show up there?
What happens if you do a document.write of the JavaScript string
literal, which characters show up there?
I suspect that you should already see something there that you do not
expect, I have some doubts that the problem is the charCodeAt method if
two different browsers (as stated below) give you the same result.
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> Additional information:
> Used Browsers: Opera 7.53, Opera 7.52 and Mozilla 1.4 on Solaris and Linux[/color]

If your app is online post a URL and someone in the newsgroup can then
examine the HTML/JavaScript send by it to find out what is going wrong.

--

Martin Honnen

http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/

[Ron Lange]

Re: charCodeAt()

Hi Martin,
no, it is no cgi. Please have a look at

http://home.teleos-web.de/rlange1/chartest.htm

where you can find an illustration of my problem. I forget to mention that
different browsers obvisiously threat the encoding in different ways
(although page encoding should be preserved).

Regards and thank you for your reply
Ron

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Re: charCodeAt()

Ron Lange wrote:[color=blue]
> hi, sometimes I get weird codes by String.charCode At()[/color]

You mean String.prototyp e.charCodeAt().
[color=blue]
> if I'am converting binary data (iso-8859-1 written by a java app)[/color]

You are confusing JavaScript and Java:

<http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ2_2>
[color=blue]
> into numeric values. For example instead of 164 I got 8364
> (the generic currency symbol '¤').[/color]

I do not. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6)
Gecko/20040122 Debian/1.6-1, using a JavaScript 1.5 script
engine and de_DE@euro as locale (where @euro is equal to
@ISO-8859-15 AFAIK).

The script engine you have tested with seems to try to
workaround the Euro issue, possibly due to system limitations.
In ISO-8859-1, code point 0xA4 (164) is the Currency sign. In
ISO-8859-15, that code point is the Euro sign. In Unicode,
however, the Euro sign is located at code point 0x20AC (8364).
[color=blue]
> I have already tested it by the url-statement
> javascript:("¤" ).charCodeAt();[/color]

There is nothing like a "url-statement". What you have used is a
proprietary "javascript :" URI designed to return a dynamic document
generated from JavaScript expressions. By using a call operator
within the expression, the respective method is called (and its
return value, if it has any, creates a temporary document).

<http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_24>
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> in my browser,[/color]

Which is? On which OS? On which platform?

<http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ2_3>
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> the result is 164.[/color]

Seems like your browser's script engine, too, is interpreting strings with
charCodeAt() as ISO-8859-1 strings (where appropriate) and not as Unicode
strings.

But then your test case is not even Valid HTML:

<http://validator.w3.or g/check?uri=http://home.teleos-web.de/rlange1/chartest.htm&ss =1;verbose=1>
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> Some other values exeeding the maximum of 255 for the first latin-1
> conform unicode set[/color]

There is no "Latin-1 conform unicode set". Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1) is a subset
of Unicode, with the exception of a few code points, including 0xA4 (164).
The correct designation for the unicode subsets without those exceptions
is "Basic Latin" and "Latin-1 Supplement".

<http://www.unicode.org/charts/>
<http://www.htmlhelp.co m/reference/charset/iso160-191.html>
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> just only a bit, but I am wondering that they're doing it at all.[/color]

See also <40F0A7CD.80103 03@PointedEars. de>.


PointedEars

[Ron Lange]

Re: charCodeAt()

Am Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:26:27 +0200 hat Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@we b.de> geschrieben:
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>> if I'am converting binary data (iso-8859-1 written by a java app)[/color]
>
> You are confusing JavaScript and Java:[/color]

No, I don't confuse it, just follow the thread.
[color=blue]
> There is nothing like a "url-statement". What you have used is a
> proprietary "javascript :" URI ---snip---[/color]

Thank you very much. I'm wondering why someone is spending so much energy
on explaining such trivial things. But anyway. The problem couldn't be
solved since just only the first 128 values of all iso charsets being
interpreted in the same way by charCodeAt(), there I was a bit
disinformed. Finally, the capabilities of JavaScript for e.g. high
compressed content are quite unsatisfying.

And: be nice and dont' reply, this thread is terminated.