IE6 and .js include problem?

JW · Jul 23 '05, 11:51 AM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

I'm not sure about this, but it may be because you are omitting the
lang=javascript option.
I alway use:
<script language="JavaS cript" src="berekening .js"></script>
which seems to work just fine.
JW

[color=blue]
> Sometimes, I don't know when exactly, when I try to include an external js[/color]
file as:[color=blue]
>
> <script src='myfile.js' ></script>
>
> that .js file goes not included in some cases!![/color]

**Grant Wagner** · Jul 23 '05, 11:51 AM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

lallous wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hello
>
> Sometimes, I don't know when exactly, when I try to include an external js file as:
>
> <script src='myfile.js' ></script>
>
> that .js file goes not included in some cases!!
>
> To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
>
> <script>
> <? include ('myfile.js'); ?>
> </script>
>
> Anyone knows why that .js file is not being included all the time?
>
> --
> Elias[/color]

A bug in the Web server? A bug in the browser? Assuming the server is responding to
requests in a timely manner, those are the only two reasons a file referenced by
<script type="text/javascript" src="myfile.js" ></script> wouldn't always load.

Check your Web server logs, see if any errors are being reported for the GET on that
file.

I'm guessing you're just assuming that it's not always loading because you are seeing
client-side script errors that leads you to that conclusion. I would suggest that the
file is always being loaded, but some other bug in your client-side code is causing the
problems you are seeing.

Again, check your Web server logs, see if it ever fails to deliver "myfile.js" .

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**lallous** · Jul 23 '05, 11:51 AM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

Hello

I tried adding "lang=javascrip t" attribute but that doesn't help.

No there are no errors in the script, I am checking if the functions
are getting loaded by doing alert(functionX YZ)

When that external .js file gets loaded then the alert shows the
function body, otherwise it shows nothing and I get page errors due to
the lack of these functions.

In the same browser (but sometimes different machines), sometimes it
loads that external .js file using <script> sometimes it doesn't!

Will refer to the server's log, thanks for the hints.

--
Elias

Grant Wagner <gwagner@agrico reunited.com> wrote in message news:<40E071D6. F2870257@agrico reunited.com>.. .[color=blue]
> lallous wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Hello
> >
> > Sometimes, I don't know when exactly, when I try to include an external js file as:
> >
> > <script src='myfile.js' ></script>
> >
> > that .js file goes not included in some cases!!
> >
> > To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
> >
> > <script>
> > <? include ('myfile.js'); ?>
> > </script>
> >
> > Anyone knows why that .js file is not being included all the time?
> >
> > --
> > Elias[/color]
>
> A bug in the Web server? A bug in the browser? Assuming the server is responding to
> requests in a timely manner, those are the only two reasons a file referenced by
> <script type="text/javascript" src="myfile.js" ></script> wouldn't always load.
>
> Check your Web server logs, see if any errors are being reported for the GET on that
> file.
>
> I'm guessing you're just assuming that it's not always loading because you are seeing
> client-side script errors that leads you to that conclusion. I would suggest that the
> file is always being loaded, but some other bug in your client-side code is causing the
> problems you are seeing.
>
> Again, check your Web server logs, see if it ever fails to deliver "myfile.js" .
>
> --
> | Grant Wagner <gwagner@agrico reunited.com>[/color]

**Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn** · Jul 23 '05, 11:59 AM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

lallous wrote:[color=blue]
> Sometimes, I don't know when exactly, when I try to include an
> external js file as:
>
> <script src='myfile.js' ></script>
>
> that .js file goes not included in some cases!![/color]

This should read

<script type="text/javascript" src="myfile.js" ></script>
[color=blue]
> To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
>
> <script> <? include ('myfile.js'); ?> </script>[/color]

This will cause a server-side script error. What
do you think PHP will do with _J(ava)Script_ code?
Think first, code second.

And please, do not crosspost over hierarchies.

F'Up2 cljs

PointedEars
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**Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn** · Jul 23 '05, 11:59 AM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

JW wrote:[color=blue]
> I'm not sure about this, but it may be because you are omitting the
> lang=javascript option.[/color]

It is not an option, it is an attribute with its value.
[color=blue]
> I alway use:
> <script language="JavaS cript" src="berekening .js"></script>[/color]

You should always use at least

<script
type="text/javascript"
language="JavaS cript"
src="berekening .js"></script>

The "type" attribute is required since HTML 4, the "language" attribute
deprecated (so be sure to declare a Transitional document type if you
use the latter).
[color=blue]
> which seems to work just fine.[/color]

It *seems* to work.
[color=blue]
> [...][/color]

Please do not top post, see <http://jibbering.com/faq/>.
And please do not cross-post over hierarchies.

F'up2 cljs

PointedEars

**Alberto** · Jul 23 '05, 11:59 AM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

Where is the _original_ of this answered post?
The answer seem to arrave as disaggregated from the thread it arguably
belonged or should belong to, which I bet is just abother thing we'd blame
this poor guy for.

Yet, I'd love to see where's the original, and ask whether we could avoid
this peculiar exception that makes of your own posts alone the only ones who
result disaggregated from the thread they were meant to be once loaded in a
newsreader. No doubt this makes your valuable nickname stand out, yet I'd
really love to spot the original of this thread.

A few of us are here because they LIKE and ENJOY to help, and would like to
give their try to see whether they can help out the poor guy rather than
just whopping him for the mere sake of it

tia

"Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" <PointedEars@nu rfuerspam.de> ha scritto nel
messaggio news:40EAFCE7.4 050407@PointedE ars.de...[color=blue]
> JW wrote:[color=green]
> > I'm not sure about this, but it may be because you are omitting the
> > lang=javascript option.[/color]
>
> It is not an option, it is an attribute with its value.
>[color=green]
> > I alway use:
> > <script language="JavaS cript" src="berekening .js"></script>[/color]
>
> You should always use at least
>
> <script
> type="text/javascript"
> language="JavaS cript"
> src="berekening .js"></script>
>
> The "type" attribute is required since HTML 4, the "language" attribute
> deprecated (so be sure to declare a Transitional document type if you
> use the latter).
>[color=green]
> > which seems to work just fine.[/color]
>
> It *seems* to work.
>[color=green]
> > [...][/color]
>
> Please do not top post, see <http://jibbering.com/faq/>.
> And please do not cross-post over hierarchies.
>
>
> F'up2 cljs
>
> PointedEars[/color]

**Randy Webb** · Jul 23 '05, 12:00 PM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

<--snip-->
[color=blue][color=green]
>>To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
>>
>><script> <? include ('myfile.js'); ?> </script>[/color]
>
>
> This will cause a server-side script error.[/color]

Think first, code second, test third, post to News fourth.

It does *not* cause server side script errors.

[color=blue]
>What do you think PHP will do with _J(ava)Script_ code?[/color]

Absolutely nothing. That is not what the PHP include() does.
Unless the included file contains PHP tags and PHP script.
[color=blue]
> Think first, code second.[/color]

PWYP

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
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**Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn** · Jul 23 '05, 12:00 PM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

Randy Webb wrote:[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
>>> <script> <? include ('myfile.js'); ?> </script>[/color]
>> This will cause a server-side script error.[/color]
>
> Think first, code second, test third, post to News fourth.
>
> It does *not* cause server side script errors.[/color]

But it is likely to and thus it is bad practice. The JavaScript
only needs to contain "<?" or "<?php" (for whatever reason) and
the hypertext preprocessor will parse it.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> What do you think PHP will do with _J(ava)Script_ code?[/color]
>
> Absolutely nothing. That is not what the PHP include() does.
> Unless the included file contains PHP tags and PHP script.[/color]

Exactly.

PointedEars

**lallous** · Jul 23 '05, 12:00 PM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

> This should read[color=blue]
>
> <script type="text/javascript" src="myfile.js" ></script>[/color]

That doesn't and didn't help.

This is sometimes happening with images, it seems IIS5 is not
functioning properly or serving files all the time.

[color=blue][color=green]
> > To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
> >
> > <script> <? include ('myfile.js'); ?> </script>[/color]
>
> This will cause a server-side script error. What
> do you think PHP will do with _J(ava)Script_ code?[/color]

That works, you should have known that if you know a little about
PHP's include() mechanism.
[color=blue]
> Think first, code second.[/color]
I'll remember that.

--
Elias

**Andrew Thompson** · Jul 23 '05, 12:00 PM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

On 28 Jun 2004 11:48:12 -0700, lallous wrote:
[color=blue]
> <script src='myfile.js' ></script>
>
> that .js file goes not included in some cases!![/color]

Out of curiosity, what does this applet report
for the mime-type your IIS is assigning to the file?
<http://mindprod.com/jgloss/mime.html>

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**Randy Webb** · Jul 23 '05, 12:00 PM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=blue]
> Randy Webb wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
>>>><script> <? include ('myfile.js'); ?> </script>
>>>
>>>This will cause a server-side script error.[/color]
>>
>>Think first, code second, test third, post to News fourth.
>>
>>It does *not* cause server side script errors.[/color]
>
>
> But it is likely to and thus it is bad practice. The JavaScript
> only needs to contain "<?" or "<?php" (for whatever reason) and
> the hypertext preprocessor will parse it.
>[/color]

Perhaps you should gain access to a PHP-enabled server and test it out.
This code:

<script> <?php include ('blank1.js'); ?> </script>

And in blank1.js:

notLoaded = false;
<? ... ?>
<?php ... ?>

Causes *NO* PHP errors, it throws the appropriate JS errors though.
Perhaps you should peruse the www.php.net site and learn how it handles
the include statement.

BTW, your sig line is incorrect.

--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javas cript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq/

**Dr John Stockton** · Jul 23 '05, 12:00 PM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

JRS: In article <40EAFCE7.40504 07@PointedEars. de>, seen in
news:comp.lang. javascript, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@nu rfuerspam.de> posted at Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:26:31 :
[color=blue]
>And please do not cross-post over hierarchies.[/color]

There can be no rational objection to cross-posting over different
hierarchies. The newsgroups chosen should all be on-topic and
reasonably compatible in style; that is all.

If there were a rational objection, it would be in, or cited in, the FAQ
of c.l.j.

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**Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn** · Jul 23 '05, 12:01 PM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

Randy Webb wrote:[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=green]
>> Randy Webb wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>> To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
>>>>> <script> <? include ('myfile.js'); ?> </script>
>>>> This will cause a server-side script error.
>>> Think first, code second, test third, post to News fourth.
>>> It does *not* cause server side script errors.[/color]
>>
>> But it is likely to and thus it is bad practice. The JavaScript
>> only needs to contain "<?" or "<?php" (for whatever reason) and
>> the hypertext preprocessor will parse it.[/color]
>
> Perhaps you should gain access to a PHP-enabled server and test it out.[/color]

I *have* already access to a PHP-enabled server at http://localhost/
and I am well-versed in PHP, thank you.
[color=blue]
> This code:
>
> <script> <?php include ('blank1.js'); ?> </script>
>
> And in blank1.js:
>
> notLoaded = false;
> <? ... ?>
> <?php ... ?>
>
> Causes *NO* PHP errors, it throws the appropriate JS errors though.[/color]

Of course. I was referring to accidental character sequences in
JavaScript code. Don't be stupid!
[color=blue]
> Perhaps you should peruse the www.php.net site and learn how it handles
> the include statement.[/color]

Perhaps you should create test cases which reflect what I am saying.
[color=blue]
> BTW, your sig line is incorrect.[/color]

What is a "sig line" and what part of it exactly do you consider incorrect?

PointedEars

**Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn** · Jul 23 '05, 12:01 PM

Re: IE6 and .js include problem?

lallous wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> This should read
>>
>> <script type="text/javascript" src="myfile.js" ></script>[/color]
>
> That doesn't and didn't help.
>
> This is sometimes happening with images, it seems IIS5 is not
> functioning properly or serving files all the time.[/color]

That is likely. Without the source code
of myfile.js, nobody can tell for sure.
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> To solve it, I had to use PHP as:
>>>
>>> <script> <? include ('myfile.js'); ?> </script>[/color]
>>
>> This will cause a server-side script error. What
>> do you think PHP will do with _J(ava)Script_ code?[/color]
>
> That works,[/color]

*Sometimes* it does.
[color=blue]
> you should have known that if you know a little about
> PHP's include() mechanism.[/color]

YMMD. You are clearly not to teach me PHP, dearie.

PointedEars

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