Javascript, CSS e cambio stile

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  • Alberto

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    Re: Javascript, CSS e cambio stile


    (.. after many posts at comp.lang.javas cript, a LAST boring briefing to
    you, miei amici -o costruttivi nemici lol- italiani...)
    -------------------------------------------------------

    ciao Richard it is a pleasure to speak with you.
    Please note that I am not anonymous: I not only put my website link on
    my
    own comments, but I put my face too:



    scroll to the bottom Richard, and AT LEAST acknowledge me some
    intellectual
    honesty. I dislike being depicted like the bad guy of the pack when
    all I
    do is offer free codes. One doesn't like them? One doesn't get them.
    Does
    one like them, I don't charge a penny.

    But Richard: like anyone else doing this sort of work, I want to be
    respected, do you understand?

    I do not contend the professionalism of the others: but I expect them
    never
    to attack mine, not the same as constrfuctive criticising, because I
    prefer
    varx=(varx)?fal se:true;
    to
    varx=!!varx

    Do you get my point Richard?
    It is impossible to regard as positive intellectual contributions
    those
    where your code is said "what an awful bunch" and where you get called
    an
    XXX - without reicprocating
    [color=blue]
    > javascript. The result may seem critical (even excessively critical,[/color]
    or[color=blue]
    > rude) but skills evolve quickest in a hostile environment (assuming[/color]
    that[color=blue]
    > participate in the exchange).[/color]

    Well done point Richard.

    Well Richard, may I ask to you a favour you don't owe me? Would you
    devote 2
    minutes of your time to GLANCE at this:


    You will see there how I speak of a clearly badly designed file: you
    will
    see then how I speak with praise about the good things, not trying to
    bolster my alleged low self esteem viewing the code and SCRAMBLING for
    a
    personal preference I may finally have contended.

    Pay me the respect I pay to those who don't attack me gratuitously, and
    I
    may end up saying even thank you.
    Attack me and call me XXX because I prefer
    varx=(varx)?1:0 ;
    to
    varx=!!varx

    and you're (not you Richard lol) going to have troubles with me.
    [color=blue]
    > It is worth remembering that when someone posts to[/color]
    comp.lang.javas cript[color=blue]
    > under their own name, knowing the group to be archived, they are
    > effectively putting their professional reputation on the line. So[/color]
    the

    As I said, I do so, I also put my face in my posts, fearlessly.
    [color=blue]
    > explanation. Beyond that the exact tone is not too >important.[/color]

    well "XXX" repeated twice is not a tone LOL. But you're intelligent
    enough
    to agree 101% it is not my personal sensitiveness
    [color=blue]
    > diverse linguistic backgrounds of contributors to the group means[/color]
    that[color=blue]
    > sometimes subtlety is lost in translation. A response may seem
    > aggressive or patronising for not reason but that, or it may be
    > intended.[/color]

    True; "XXX" doesn't belong there. It is not a thing that gets lost in
    translation: it is exactly the thing that gets transmitted with or
    without
    translations.
    [color=blue]
    > group. A little deflating of the ego with some critical code[/color]
    analysis,[color=blue]
    > and pointing out of the unseen issues, is virtually a pre-requisite[/color]
    for[color=blue]
    > gaining the skills to actually tackle the problems and issues of
    > cross-browser Internet scripting.[/color]

    Richard, please: I sell nothing. Make a search on the internet after
    my
    name:
    Alberto Vallini

    No secrets.
    if I seem to you to be a person who doesn't care, whistle. One thing
    about
    the ego is a super-ego, another thing is the ego of one who des NOT
    accept
    being called XXX and XXXXXXX and "awful code" simply on a STYLE custom
    preference.

    Richard, taking sides attacking me is not doing harm to me: is doing
    harm to
    those that, only beacues more familiar to you, are more entitled to
    your
    valuable respect, and counting on this they indulge in every bad word
    practice possible.
    [color=blue]
    > Finally there is one last, and inevitable, human reason for[/color]
    seemingly[color=blue]
    > hostile posts, and that is the mood of the individual at the time.[/color]
    If[color=blue]
    > you have spent the day dealing with the consequences of other[/color]
    peoples[color=blue]
    > badly authored code in a context where you couldn't express the
    > resulting frustration, for example, then that frustration might end[/color]
    up[color=blue]
    > being expressed in response to the next example of poor code
    > encountered. But circumstances change, and moods change. People have
    > good days and bad days (and lots of variety in between).[/color]

    Richard, listen to me: VERY TRUE.
    What should have I done, said that you're saying bullshit when you're
    not?
    You just said a VERY true thing. My ego is not such that I must now
    attack
    you because you disagree: on the contrary I am ackowledging your point.
    Many
    don't do this. We see this here.
    [color=blue]
    > Grant didn't say they were a bug, he said "not needed and not
    > recommended", which is true. Michael has explained why they are not[/color]

    Richard, when they go to speak of "XXX", they are ALREADY beyond the
    courtesy boundaries you're so kind to ascribe to them here.

    Let me use expressions like
    ++lenght-1
    They work, I use them, I am expecting not to be called an XXX just
    because
    others would prefer an array incrementation which is less obvious in
    its
    formal appearance.

    You make more sense than all the previousn posts bundled toghether

    ciao
    Alberto




    --
    Alberto

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