Mars Rover Controlled By Java

[Joe \Nuke Me Xemu\ Foster]

Re: Mars Rover Controlled By Java

"Tony Hill" <hilla_nospam_2 0@yahoo.ca> wrote in message <news:3d0b6741d 436bc4c8279f8a2 6323c1f9@news.1 usenet.com>...
[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:32:55 GMT, "Rod Davison"
> <critsys@rogers .remove.com> wrote:[color=green]
> >Actually, academic debate aside, the success of the rover so far is a
> >welcome shot in the arm for the space program, especially after the
> >shuttle tragedy and previous Mars mission failures. In the cold harsh
> >light of the pragmatic dawn, if the rover works to spec, then using java
> >was a good decision, if not, then it was a poor decision. To quote the
> >scribe: all else is commentary.[/color]
>
> Or perhaps more to the point, not using Java was a good decision!
> hint: in case you missed it, the rover doesn't use any Java code, the
> Java is all for manipulating the data received back from the Rover.[/color]

The rover was programmed with Visual Basic 6.0, but Windows Update
zapped the MSVBVM60.DLL run-time. Obviously, all VB applications
should already have been trashed, redesigned, and rewritten in .NyET!

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[Joe \Nuke Me Xemu\ Foster]

Re: Mars Rover Controlled By Java

"Tony Hill" <hilla_nospam_2 0@yahoo.ca> wrote in message <news:3d0b6741d 436bc4c8279f8a2 6323c1f9@news.1 usenet.com>...
[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:32:55 GMT, "Rod Davison"
> <critsys@rogers .remove.com> wrote:[color=green]
> >Actually, academic debate aside, the success of the rover so far is a
> >welcome shot in the arm for the space program, especially after the
> >shuttle tragedy and previous Mars mission failures. In the cold harsh
> >light of the pragmatic dawn, if the rover works to spec, then using java
> >was a good decision, if not, then it was a poor decision. To quote the
> >scribe: all else is commentary.[/color]
>
> Or perhaps more to the point, not using Java was a good decision!
> hint: in case you missed it, the rover doesn't use any Java code, the
> Java is all for manipulating the data received back from the Rover.[/color]

The rover was programmed with Visual Basic 6.0, but Windows Update
zapped the MSVBVM60.DLL run-time. Obviously, all VB applications
should already have been trashed, redesigned, and rewritten in .NyET!

--
Joe Foster <mailto:jlfoste r%40znet.com> DC8s in Spaace: <http://www.xenu.net/>
WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above They're coming to
because my cats have apparently learned to type. take me away, ha ha!

[Berlin Brown]

Re: Mars Rover Controlled By Java

Joe "Nuke Me Xemu" Foster wrote:[color=blue]
> "Tony Hill" <hilla_nospam_2 0@yahoo.ca> wrote in message <news:3d0b6741d 436bc4c8279f8a2 6323c1f9@news.1 usenet.com>...
>
>[color=green]
>>On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:32:55 GMT, "Rod Davison"
>><critsys@roge rs.remove.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Actually, academic debate aside, the success of the rover so far is a
>>>welcome shot in the arm for the space program, especially after the
>>>shuttle tragedy and previous Mars mission failures. In the cold harsh
>>>light of the pragmatic dawn, if the rover works to spec, then using java
>>>was a good decision, if not, then it was a poor decision. To quote the
>>>scribe: all else is commentary.[/color]
>>
>>Or perhaps more to the point, not using Java was a good decision!
>>hint: in case you missed it, the rover doesn't use any Java code, the
>>Java is all for manipulating the data received back from the Rover.[/color]
>
>
> The rover was programmed with Visual Basic 6.0, but Windows Update
> zapped the MSVBVM60.DLL run-time. Obviously, all VB applications
> should already have been trashed, redesigned, and rewritten in .NyET!
>
> --
> Joe Foster <mailto:jlfoste r%40znet.com> DC8s in Spaace: <http://www.xenu.net/>
> WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above They're coming to
> because my cats have apparently learned to type. take me away, ha ha!
>
>[/color]

Maybe they should have used java....

Run the system through junit...

Engineers struggled to diagnose what was wrong with the rover. Among the
possible causes: a corruption of its software or computer memory.

Spirit is one-half of an $820 million mission. Its twin, Opportunity, is
expected to land on Mars late Saturday. The twin rovers are supposed to
examine the Red Planet's dry rocks and soil for evidence that it was
once wetter and more hospitable to life.

java.lang.Rover Exception(line: 10,345)


Dope?

[Berlin Brown]

Re: Mars Rover Controlled By Java

Joe "Nuke Me Xemu" Foster wrote:[color=blue]
> "Tony Hill" <hilla_nospam_2 0@yahoo.ca> wrote in message <news:3d0b6741d 436bc4c8279f8a2 6323c1f9@news.1 usenet.com>...
>
>[color=green]
>>On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:32:55 GMT, "Rod Davison"
>><critsys@roge rs.remove.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Actually, academic debate aside, the success of the rover so far is a
>>>welcome shot in the arm for the space program, especially after the
>>>shuttle tragedy and previous Mars mission failures. In the cold harsh
>>>light of the pragmatic dawn, if the rover works to spec, then using java
>>>was a good decision, if not, then it was a poor decision. To quote the
>>>scribe: all else is commentary.[/color]
>>
>>Or perhaps more to the point, not using Java was a good decision!
>>hint: in case you missed it, the rover doesn't use any Java code, the
>>Java is all for manipulating the data received back from the Rover.[/color]
>
>
> The rover was programmed with Visual Basic 6.0, but Windows Update
> zapped the MSVBVM60.DLL run-time. Obviously, all VB applications
> should already have been trashed, redesigned, and rewritten in .NyET!
>
> --
> Joe Foster <mailto:jlfoste r%40znet.com> DC8s in Spaace: <http://www.xenu.net/>
> WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above They're coming to
> because my cats have apparently learned to type. take me away, ha ha!
>
>[/color]

Maybe they should have used java....

Run the system through junit...

Engineers struggled to diagnose what was wrong with the rover. Among the
possible causes: a corruption of its software or computer memory.

Spirit is one-half of an $820 million mission. Its twin, Opportunity, is
expected to land on Mars late Saturday. The twin rovers are supposed to
examine the Red Planet's dry rocks and soil for evidence that it was
once wetter and more hospitable to life.

java.lang.Rover Exception(line: 10,345)


Dope?

[Torben Ægidius Mogensen]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

rickandthuy-dc@yahoo.com (Rick Osborn) writes:
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> I think they should turn it off and turn it on again.[/color]

It may be a bit hard to reach the on/off switch.

If I was to make such a vehicle, I woul dmake sure to allow it to be
rebooted by remote control even when the computer is in some undefined
state, e.g., by having a simple circuit listening to the incoming
signals and when a specific sequence occurs, reboot the main computer.

Torben

[Torben Ægidius Mogensen]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

rickandthuy-dc@yahoo.com (Rick Osborn) writes:
[color=blue]
> I think they should turn it off and turn it on again.[/color]

It may be a bit hard to reach the on/off switch.

If I was to make such a vehicle, I woul dmake sure to allow it to be
rebooted by remote control even when the computer is in some undefined
state, e.g., by having a simple circuit listening to the incoming
signals and when a specific sequence occurs, reboot the main computer.

Torben

[Theo]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

"Joe \"Nuke Me Xemu\" Foster" <joe@bftsi0.UUC P> wrote in message news:<107483785 4.271216@news-1.nethere.net>. ..[color=blue]
> "Rick Osborn" <rickandthuy-dc@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:2793a24f. 0401222152.53cd 6f4a@posting.go ogle.com>...
>[color=green]
> > I think they should turn it off and turn it on again.[/color]
>
> They need to reinstall Winblows...[/color]

or WhimClose

[Theo]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

"Joe \"Nuke Me Xemu\" Foster" <joe@bftsi0.UUC P> wrote in message news:<107483785 4.271216@news-1.nethere.net>. ..[color=blue]
> "Rick Osborn" <rickandthuy-dc@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:2793a24f. 0401222152.53cd 6f4a@posting.go ogle.com>...
>[color=green]
> > I think they should turn it off and turn it on again.[/color]
>
> They need to reinstall Winblows...[/color]

or WhimClose

[ak]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

> LOL - love that one Joe, I'll have to[color=blue]
> add it to my list of MafiaSoft, M$,
> Windoze and MicroBastard* ..
>
> * Has a particularly Australian flavor.
> Aussies enjoy that the second word
> does not even derive from a word
> that starts with the same/similar
> letter. ;-)[/color]

you write it wrong:
MicrobaStard is right!
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[ak]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

> LOL - love that one Joe, I'll have to[color=blue]
> add it to my list of MafiaSoft, M$,
> Windoze and MicroBastard* ..
>
> * Has a particularly Australian flavor.
> Aussies enjoy that the second word
> does not even derive from a word
> that starts with the same/similar
> letter. ;-)[/color]

you write it wrong:
MicrobaStard is right!
--

____________

http://reader.imagero.com the best java image reader.

[Programmer Dude]

Re: Mars Rover Controlled By Java

Randy Howard wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Keep in mind that ALL aircraft land with flaps.[/color]
>
> That's simply not true.[/color]

You're right, of course. I had in mind the big commercial jets
when I was comparing the landing speed of 747s with others of the
same general class.
[color=blue]
> ...accomplished pilots practice flapless landings in
> case of a system failure.[/color]

Absolutely.


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[Programmer Dude]

Re: Mars Rover Controlled By Java

Randy Howard wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Keep in mind that ALL aircraft land with flaps.[/color]
>
> That's simply not true.[/color]

You're right, of course. I had in mind the big commercial jets
when I was comparing the landing speed of 747s with others of the
same general class.
[color=blue]
> ...accomplished pilots practice flapless landings in
> case of a system failure.[/color]

Absolutely.


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[Alan Balmer]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:24:19 -0800, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate. spam.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Michael N. Christoff" wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "This is a serious problem. This is an extremely serious anomaly," said Pete
>> Theisinger Spirit project manager.
>> "There is no single fault that explains all the observables."
>>
>> "...but Spirit was only transmitting "pseudo-noise", a random series of
>> zeroes and ones in binary code and not anything the scientists could
>> decipher."
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3421071.stm[/color]
>
>NASA is renowned for its antenna failures - the Hubble space
>telescope, Ulysses at Jupiter, and now their little radio-controlled
>go-cart on Mars.[/color]

Since they're getting good signal, but meaningless data, the antenna
is not likely to be the problem, is it?[color=blue]
>
>Uncle Al eagerly anticipates a Hummer-2 advert beginning with the $240
>million pigmy brain fart that couldn't call home. Anticipating that
>its working life would be less than 90 days because of dust
>accumulating on its solar panels is also precious. Hey NASA, "blow
>job."
>
>One presumes the same engineering glitch is in the other rover.[/color]

I wouldn't "presume" anything without considerably more data.
Actually, I would - I presume that NASA has people working on the
problem that are at least as competent as you are ;-)

--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
removebalmercon sultingthis@att .net

[Alan Balmer]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:24:19 -0800, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate. spam.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Michael N. Christoff" wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "This is a serious problem. This is an extremely serious anomaly," said Pete
>> Theisinger Spirit project manager.
>> "There is no single fault that explains all the observables."
>>
>> "...but Spirit was only transmitting "pseudo-noise", a random series of
>> zeroes and ones in binary code and not anything the scientists could
>> decipher."
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3421071.stm[/color]
>
>NASA is renowned for its antenna failures - the Hubble space
>telescope, Ulysses at Jupiter, and now their little radio-controlled
>go-cart on Mars.[/color]

Since they're getting good signal, but meaningless data, the antenna
is not likely to be the problem, is it?[color=blue]
>
>Uncle Al eagerly anticipates a Hummer-2 advert beginning with the $240
>million pigmy brain fart that couldn't call home. Anticipating that
>its working life would be less than 90 days because of dust
>accumulating on its solar panels is also precious. Hey NASA, "blow
>job."
>
>One presumes the same engineering glitch is in the other rover.[/color]

I wouldn't "presume" anything without considerably more data.
Actually, I would - I presume that NASA has people working on the
problem that are at least as competent as you are ;-)

--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
removebalmercon sultingthis@att .net

[Andrew Thompson]

Re: Mars Rover Not Responding

"ak"
...
| > Windoze and MicroBastard ..
...
| MicrobaStard is right!

LOL! Yep, that fits ;-)