Java won't work, please help

**Jim Katz** · Jul 17 '05, 09:43 PM

Re: Java won't work, please help

Hi Steven,
If you have the java console enabled, which you can do thru Settings,
Control Panel, Java Plug-in, you should be able to tell what error
messages are being thrown when the app attempts to load. If you tell us
what error messages are being thrown somebody here can possibly tell you
what's wrong.

HTH

Jim

Steven Green wrote:[color=blue]
>
> I have a java app at work I used when I had Windows 98 and never had a
> problem. I did a clean install of Windows XP and of course Java was not
> included. I went to Sun, download Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v 1.4.2
> and Java 2 Runtime Environment SE v 1.4.1_01. The Java app will not work
> with WinCP. I have installed the Windows XP Service pack 1, IE service pack
> 1 and I have downloaded Netscape and Opera. The same problem happens in all
> browsers, I get the grey box with the Red X in the top left hand corner. I
> thought it may be a problem with javascript but after testing javascript it
> seems the problem is with Java, not javascripting. I don't know too much
> about this, I have very limited knowledge of Java VM. That is the only
> application that I have problems with. Can anyone give me any ideas on what
> to try. Thanks[/color]

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**Ingo Pakleppa - ingo at kkeane dot com** · Jul 17 '05, 09:43 PM

Re: Java won't work, please help

A red X in the corner is not usually a Java problem - Java problems would
usually show a grey box and nothing else. A red X indicates that an image
could not be loaded.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:17:06 +0000, Steven Green wrote:
[color=blue]
> I get YOU MUST HAVE JAVASCRIPT ENABLED TO VEIW THIS PAGE. I have no
> problem with javacript, in fact I posted in the javascript newgroup and
> they all said a grey box with a Red X in the corner is a Java problem,
> not javascript. They gave me a script to test and the javascript worked
> fine, so it's in the OS and it's a problem with Java. I just at my last
> rope with it, I'm about ready to downgrade back to Windows 98 but I
> would hate to do that. I do have the Java Plug-in enabled and javacript
> enabled. Thanks for trying to help I hope this helps more.
>
>
> "Jim Katz" <jimkatz@ix.net com.com> wrote in message
> news:3F3E3211.7 9EE0CA6@ix.netc om.com...[color=green]
>> Hi Steven,
>> If you have the java console enabled, which you can do thru Settings,
>> Control Panel, Java Plug-in, you should be able to tell what error
>> messages are being thrown when the app attempts to load. If you tell us
>> what error messages are being thrown somebody here can possibly tell
>> you what's wrong.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Steven Green wrote:[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > I have a java app at work I used when I had Windows 98 and never had
>> > a problem. I did a clean install of Windows XP and of course Java
>> > was not included. I went to Sun, download Java 2 Runtime
>> > Environment, SE v[/color][/color]
> 1.4.2[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > and Java 2 Runtime Environment SE v 1.4.1_01. The Java app will not[/color][/color]
> work[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > with WinCP. I have installed the Windows XP Service pack 1, IE
>> > service[/color][/color]
> pack[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > 1 and I have downloaded Netscape and Opera. The same problem happens
>> > in[/color][/color]
> all[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > browsers, I get the grey box with the Red X in the top left hand
>> > corner.[/color][/color]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > thought it may be a problem with javascript but after testing
>> > javascript[/color][/color]
> it[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > seems the problem is with Java, not javascripting. I don't know too[/color][/color]
> much[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > about this, I have very limited knowledge of Java VM. That is the
>> > only application that I have problems with. Can anyone give me any
>> > ideas on[/color][/color]
> what[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > to try. Thanks[/color]
>>
>> --
>> ! Jim Katz
>> ! Netbeans 3.5.1[/color][/color]

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**Ingo Pakleppa - ingo at kkeane dot com** · Jul 17 '05, 09:43 PM

Re: Java won't work, please help

Can you post the HTML that is supposed to load the applet?

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 20:47:54 +0000, Steven Green wrote:
[color=blue]
> There is suppose to be a login and password applet come up where the
> gray box is with the Red X in the corner.
>
> "Ingo Pakleppa - ingo at kkeane dot com" <me@privacy.net > wrote in
> message news:pan.2003.0 8.16.20.13.42.3 72300@privacy.n et...[color=green]
>> A red X in the corner is not usually a Java problem - Java problems
>> would usually show a grey box and nothing else. A red X indicates that
>> an image could not be loaded.
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:17:06 +0000, Steven Green wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > I get YOU MUST HAVE JAVASCRIPT ENABLED TO VEIW THIS PAGE. I have
>> > no problem with javacript, in fact I posted in the javascript
>> > newgroup and they all said a grey box with a Red X in the corner is a
>> > Java problem, not javascript. They gave me a script to test and the
>> > javascript worked fine, so it's in the OS and it's a problem with
>> > Java. I just at my last rope with it, I'm about ready to downgrade
>> > back to Windows 98 but I would hate to do that. I do have the Java
>> > Plug-in enabled and javacript enabled. Thanks for trying to help I
>> > hope this helps more.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jim Katz" <jimkatz@ix.net com.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3F3E3211.7 9EE0CA6@ix.netc om.com...
>> >> Hi Steven,
>> >> If you have the java console enabled, which you can do thru
>> >> Settings, Control Panel, Java Plug-in, you should be able to tell
>> >> what error messages are being thrown when the app attempts to load.
>> >> If you tell us what error messages are being thrown somebody here
>> >> can possibly tell you what's wrong.
>> >>
>> >> HTH
>> >>
>> >> Jim
>> >>
>> >> Steven Green wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a java app at work I used when I had Windows 98 and never
>> >> > had a problem. I did a clean install of Windows XP and of course
>> >> > Java was not included. I went to Sun, download Java 2 Runtime
>> >> > Environment, SE v
>> > 1.4.2
>> >> > and Java 2 Runtime Environment SE v 1.4.1_01. The Java app will
>> >> > not
>> > work
>> >> > with WinCP. I have installed the Windows XP Service pack 1, IE
>> >> > service
>> > pack
>> >> > 1 and I have downloaded Netscape and Opera. The same problem
>> >> > happens in
>> > all
>> >> > browsers, I get the grey box with the Red X in the top left hand
>> >> > corner.
>> > I
>> >> > thought it may be a problem with javascript but after testing
>> >> > javascript
>> > it
>> >> > seems the problem is with Java, not javascripting. I don't know
>> >> > too
>> > much
>> >> > about this, I have very limited knowledge of Java VM. That is the
>> >> > only application that I have problems with. Can anyone give me
>> >> > any ideas on
>> > what
>> >> > to try. Thanks
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ! Jim Katz
>> >> ! Netbeans 3.5.1[/color]
>>
>> --
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>> information, see http://www.kkeane.com/lobbyspousal-faq.shtml
>>[/color][/color]

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**Amey Samant** · Jul 17 '05, 09:43 PM

Re: Java won't work, please help

hi Ingo
no i have seen X when the applet could not be loaded

hey stevens
could u post answers for following :
1> you said you downloaded jre1.4.1_02 & jre1.4.2 .... both ? which
one did u install on XP ?
2> do all other applets work ? or you cant see applets at all?

i also use XP & had installed jre1.4.1_02 when i tried to uninstall
....it never did let me ....then somehow i managed to do it (you
require registry cleaner as some of the entries are not removed, i
dunno if its MS bug or JAVA or installer bug ...whoever it is its us
who pay ;))

second thing is when you compile applets (or ne java program) if the
ver is higher then you can not run with lower versions of jre
i mean suppose i compile a program with jsdk1.4.2 then i can not run
it with jre1.4.1_02 but its upward compatible meaning prog compiled
with 1.4.1_02 can be run with jre 1.4.2
so if you can see other applets then this applet might be compiled
with higher versions .....hence the red cross
if you dont see applets at all then there must be some problem
lemme know

regards
amey

Ingo Pakleppa - ingo at kkeane dot com <me@privacy.net > wrote in message news:<pan.2003. 08.16.20.13.42. 372300@privacy. net>...[color=blue]
> A red X in the corner is not usually a Java problem - Java problems would
> usually show a grey box and nothing else. A red X indicates that an image
> could not be loaded.
>[/color]

**Amey Samant** · Jul 17 '05, 09:43 PM

Re: Java won't work, please help

ameyas7@yahoo.c om (Amey Samant) wrote in message > second thing is when you compile applets (or ne java program) if the[color=blue]
> ver is higher then you can not run with lower versions of jre
> i mean suppose i compile a program with jsdk1.4.2 then i can not run
> it with jre1.4.1_02 but its upward compatible meaning prog compiled
> with 1.4.1_02 can be run with jre 1.4.2[/color]
[color=blue]
> so if you can see other applets then this applet might be compiled
> with higher versions .....hence the red cross
> if you dont see applets at all then there must be some problem
> lemme know
> regards
> amey[/color]
of course i forgot to mention the most basic thing that is if the
applet fails to load for any reason(that can be found in java console)
for instance classpath not found or any other exception thrown , you
will get a red cross :)

regards
amey

**Ingo Pakleppa - ingo at kkeane dot com** · Jul 17 '05, 09:43 PM

Re: Java won't work, please help

Another most trivial question to ask: is the JVM installed? On some
versions of XP, Microsoft did not provide a JVM at all.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:58:02 -0700, Amey Samant wrote:
[color=blue]
> hi Ingo
> no i have seen X when the applet could not be loaded
>
> hey stevens
> could u post answers for following :
> 1> you said you downloaded jre1.4.1_02 & jre1.4.2 .... both ? which one
> did u install on XP ?
> 2> do all other applets work ? or you cant see applets at all?
>
> i also use XP & had installed jre1.4.1_02 when i tried to uninstall
> ...it never did let me ....then somehow i managed to do it (you require
> registry cleaner as some of the entries are not removed, i dunno if its
> MS bug or JAVA or installer bug ...whoever it is its us who pay ;))
>
> second thing is when you compile applets (or ne java program) if the ver
> is higher then you can not run with lower versions of jre i mean suppose
> i compile a program with jsdk1.4.2 then i can not run it with
> jre1.4.1_02 but its upward compatible meaning prog compiled with
> 1.4.1_02 can be run with jre 1.4.2 so if you can see other applets then
> this applet might be compiled with higher versions .....hence the red
> cross if you dont see applets at all then there must be some problem
> lemme know
>
>
>
> regards
> amey
>
>
>
> Ingo Pakleppa - ingo at kkeane dot com <me@privacy.net > wrote in message
> news:<pan.2003. 08.16.20.13.42. 372300@privacy. net>...[color=green]
>> A red X in the corner is not usually a Java problem - Java problems
>> would usually show a grey box and nothing else. A red X indicates that
>> an image could not be loaded.
>>[/color][/color]

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