IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

[Els]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

Torsten Oeltjen wrote:
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> Els schrieb:
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>> You didn't change <a name="top"></a> to <a name="top" id="top"></a>.[/color]
>
> Now I did... but no changes.[/color]

If you place the anchor at the beginning of that <td> (right before
<img...>) instead of at the end, it works. My guess is there is some
error in the <map> content of that <td> which causes the browser to
not see the anchor in the end.
I can't use the validator to check what the error may be, because of
characters that aren't part of the utf-8 charset.

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[Torsten Oeltjen]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

Els schrieb:[color=blue]
>
>
> If you place the anchor at the beginning of that <td> (right before
> <img...>) instead of at the end, it works. My guess is there is some
> error in the <map> content of that <td> which causes the browser to
> not see the anchor in the end.
> I can't use the validator to check what the error may be, because of
> characters that aren't part of the utf-8 charset.
>[/color]

Hey, that´s the solution!
Setting the anchor at top of the page - right after the body-tag - works
in all browsers. IE sometimes is strange, isn´t it?
Many thanks - Vele Dank!

[Michael Winter]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

On 08/06/2005 10:02, Els wrote:
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> Arne wrote:
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>> [...] Applying the id attribute to any tag will do: <table
>> id="content">[/color]
>
> Not in all browsers though.
> (I forgot which browsers need the name attribute, but I know they're
> out there...)[/color]

NN4 is the only one that immediately springs to mind. IE4 is fine, as I
recall. There probably are others, but I would assume they must be old
enough to have been produced before the id attribute was defined as
usable as an anchor.

Mike

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[Els]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

Michael Winter wrote:
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> On 08/06/2005 10:02, Els wrote:
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>> Arne wrote:
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>>> [...] Applying the id attribute to any tag will do: <table
>>> id="content">[/color]
>>
>> Not in all browsers though.
>> (I forgot which browsers need the name attribute, but I know they're
>> out there...)[/color]
>
> NN4 is the only one that immediately springs to mind. IE4 is fine, as I
> recall. There probably are others, but I would assume they must be old
> enough to have been produced before the id attribute was defined as
> usable as an anchor.[/color]

Have you checked browsers on Mac and Linux?

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[Torsten Oeltjen]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

Els schrieb:[color=blue]
>
> Have you checked browsers on Mac and Linux?
>[/color]

I don´t have possibilities to check out these platforms.

[Els]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

Torsten Oeltjen wrote:
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> Els schrieb:[color=green]
>>
>> Have you checked browsers on Mac and Linux?[/color]
>
> I don´t have possibilities to check out these platforms.[/color]

I was only asking Mike - as he said the only browser he knows to need
the name attribute in anchors is NN4. If you include the name
attribute in anchors, it won't hurt any browser, and may help older
ones like NN4 and possibly on other platforms :-)

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[Andreas Prilop]

Re: IE6 doesn't follow textanchors

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Torsten Oeltjen wrote:
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> Subject: Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors
>
> I don´t have possibilities to check out these platforms.[/color]

Learn first the difference between an apostrophe (')
and an acute accent (´). The ASCII apostrophe is shift-#
on a German keyboard.

http://www.weihenstephan.org/org/orte/moosburg/design/apo.html

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/apostrophe.html

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[Michael Winter]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

On 08/06/2005 13:17, Els wrote:

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> Have you checked browsers on Mac and Linux?[/color]

I don't have access to a Mac at the moment, and I don't remember
problems with my (out-dated) version of Konqueror (so Safari should be
fine). I could check Lynx and Links (though I'm using XP at the moment),
but I'd expect them to be fine, too.

There are clearly browsers that I can't comment on, but I wasn't trying
to be definitive. That's pretty much impossible considering the variety,
anyway. I am hoping others will share their experiences.

Mike

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[Torsten Oeltjen]

Re: IE6 doesn't follow textanchors

Andreas Prilop schrieb:
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>
> Learn first the difference between an apostrophe (')
> and an acute accent (´). The ASCII apostrophe is shift-#
> on a German keyboard.[/color]

Das ist natuerlich extrem wichtig...

[Els]

Re: IE6 doesn't follow textanchors

Torsten Oeltjen wrote:
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> Andreas Prilop schrieb:
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>> Learn first the difference between an apostrophe (')
>> and an acute accent (´). The ASCII apostrophe is shift-#
>> on a German keyboard.[/color]
>
> Das ist natuerlich extrem wichtig...[/color]

<g>

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[Andreas Prilop]

Re: IE6 doesn't follow textanchors

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Torsten Oeltjen wrote:
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>> Learn first the difference between an apostrophe (')
>> and an acute accent (´). The ASCII apostrophe is shift-#
>> on a German keyboard.[/color]
>
> Das ist natuerlich extrem wichtig...[/color]

.... like the difference between the letter O and the digit 0.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=2OO1

And you will fail with
style="font-family: ´Times New Roman´"

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[Arne]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

Once upon a time *Els* wrote:[color=blue]
> Arne wrote:
>[color=green]
>> An anchor does not need to be defined with the a tag. Applying the id
>> attribute to any tag will do: <table id="content">[/color]
>
> Not in all browsers though.
> (I forgot which browsers need the name attribute, but I know they're
> out there...)
>[/color]

Nothing wrong with "name" as it's still valid. Still, the "id" works
in all browsers but not in very old versions, so any version of any
browser released this century will do :)

The question is, do you really must care much for very old versions of
any browser when you design new websites? They are very rare, used by
some for specific reasons and in rare cases even for nostalgic
reasons. But I don't belive that who ever still have them, really have
only that browser to rely on?

To be able to use almost any web site today, you must have at least IE
5.5 or any other browser with versions from this century. So you may
have NN 4 or any other relic from the past, but you must also have
something that work on most websites of today.

So I say, use the "id" only if you design a new website. If you have
used "name" in erlier designed sites, let it be until making a redesign :)

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[Els]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

Arne wrote:
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> Once upon a time *Els* wrote:[color=green]
>> Arne wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> An anchor does not need to be defined with the a tag. Applying the id
>>> attribute to any tag will do: <table id="content">[/color]
>>
>> Not in all browsers though.
>> (I forgot which browsers need the name attribute, but I know they're
>> out there...)[/color]
>
> Nothing wrong with "name" as it's still valid. Still, the "id" works
> in all browsers but not in very old versions, so any version of any
> browser released this century will do :)
>
> The question is, do you really must care much for very old versions of
> any browser when you design new websites? They are very rare, used by
> some for specific reasons and in rare cases even for nostalgic
> reasons. But I don't belive that who ever still have them, really have
> only that browser to rely on?[/color]

I don't cater for old browsers with the visual design (unless it's
extremely quiet on Usenet and I really have nothing better to do), but
if anyone using and old browser ends up at the bottom of a long page,
and there is a link that says 'top of page', I'd like it to work.

Also, adding the name attribute next to the id attribute is hardly any
extra work, so I'd do it even for those 2 people in the whole wide
world that have a browser that need it ;-)
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> To be able to use almost any web site today, you must have at least IE
> 5.5 or any other browser with versions from this century. So you may
> have NN 4 or any other relic from the past, but you must also have
> something that work on most websites of today.
>
> So I say, use the "id" only if you design a new website. If you have
> used "name" in erlier designed sites, let it be until making a redesign :)[/color]

I won't say what others have to do, but I stick to using both ;-)

BTW, did you know that in IE6, if you use <a href="#top">to top<a>,
and you don't have any anchor called "top", it will still take you to
the top of the page? :-)

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[Andy Dingley]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:41:42 +0200, Els <els.aNOSPAM@ti scali.nl> wrote:
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>if anyone using and old browser ends up at the bottom of a long page,
>and there is a link that says 'top of page', I'd like it to work.[/color]

I wouldn't care. That's a very old browser and they can still scroll
there. So long as they _can_ do it, I don't mind it becoming awkward.

[Arne]

Re: IE6 doesn´t follow textanchors

Once upon a time *Els* wrote:[color=blue]
> BTW, did you know that in IE6, if you use <a href="#top">to top<a>,
> and you don't have any anchor called "top", it will still take you to
> the top of the page? :-)[/color]

Oh, that's true. I hardly use IE any moore so I forgot about that. :)

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