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  • Motoma
    Recognized Expert Specialist
    • Jan 2007
    • 3236

    #61
    Additionally, after rereading the section you sent me to, I see no mention of uppercase letters, nor use of the term All caps (which would lead to my defeat in this discussion).

    Perhaps these should be added to the FAQ.

    I sure am glad this discourse led to something productive! :D

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    • MMcCarthy
      Recognized Expert MVP
      • Aug 2006
      • 14387

      #62
      Originally posted by Motoma
      Additionally, after rereading the section you sent me to, I see no mention of uppercase letters, nor use of the term All caps (which would lead to my defeat in this discussion).

      Perhaps these should be added to the FAQ.

      I sure am glad this discourse led to something productive! :D
      If you two have nothing better to do, I'm sure I could find something to keep you busy.

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      • Savage
        Recognized Expert Top Contributor
        • Feb 2007
        • 1759

        #63
        Originally posted by mmccarthy
        If you two have nothing better to do, I'm sure I could find something to keep you busy.

        Hahahh,busted..


        Savage

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        • Motoma
          Recognized Expert Specialist
          • Jan 2007
          • 3236

          #64
          Originally posted by mmccarthy
          If you two have nothing better to do, I'm sure I could find something to keep you busy.
          Does involve correcting this problem in the FAQ?

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          • MMcCarthy
            Recognized Expert MVP
            • Aug 2006
            • 14387

            #65
            Originally posted by Motoma
            Does involve correcting this problem in the FAQ?
            You are welcome to refer your suggestions regarding the FAQ to Banfa. I'm sure he'll receive them in the spirit they deserve.

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            • Banfa
              Recognized Expert Expert
              • Feb 2006
              • 9067

              #66
              Originally posted by Motoma
              Additionally, after rereading the section you sent me to, I see no mention of uppercase letters, nor use of the term All caps (which would lead to my defeat in this discussion).
              Read again

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              • NeoPa
                Recognized Expert Moderator MVP
                • Oct 2006
                • 32633

                #67
                Originally posted by Motoma
                Additionally, after rereading the section you sent me to, I see no mention of uppercase letters, nor use of the term All caps (which would lead to my defeat in this discussion).

                Perhaps these should be added to the FAQ.

                I sure am glad this discourse led to something productive! :D
                What was so complicated in what I said that you were able to miss it so many times? If '!'=tolower('!' ) proves that it is not upper case, then surely '!'=toupper('!' ) is just as strong proof that it is upper case.
                Generally, when items proven using specific 'logic' are contradictory, then that 'logic' can be considered to be flawed.

                My 'logic', though flawed in itself (I'll leave you to discover why), was a far closer approximation to a valid rule for determining upper case.

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                • Banfa
                  Recognized Expert Expert
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 9067

                  #68
                  Originally posted by NeoPa
                  What was so complicated in what I said that you were able to miss it so many times? If '!'=tolower('!' ) proves that it is not upper case, then surely '!'=toupper('!' ) is just as strong proof that it is upper case.
                  Generally, when items proven using specific 'logic' are contradictory, then that 'logic' can be considered to be flawed.
                  All these arguments are based on the implicit assumption that case is an attribute that applies to the character '!'. It is not it only applies to letters. Therefore the assumption is false, but both arguments assume it is true.

                  They have assumed something that is false to be true and therefore anything can be proved.

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                  • Motoma
                    Recognized Expert Specialist
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3236

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Banfa
                    All these arguments are based on the implicit assumption that case is an attribute that applies to the character '!'. It is not it only applies to letters. Therefore the assumption is false, but both arguments assume it is true.

                    They have assumed something that is false to be true and therefore anything can be proved.
                    From false premises, anything can be concluded.

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                    • MMcCarthy
                      Recognized Expert MVP
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 14387

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Motoma
                      From false premises, anything can be concluded.
                      It was a stupid bl**** argument in the first place.

                      These two would probably sit for hours and argue about whether or not black is a colour. Oh! That reminds me of someone else, I wonder who.

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                      • RedSon
                        Recognized Expert Expert
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 4980

                        #71
                        Originally posted by mmccarthy
                        It was a stupid bl**** argument in the first place.

                        These two would probably sit for hours and argue about whether or not black is a colour. Oh! That reminds me of someone else, I wonder who.
                        Bloody 'ell !

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                        • MMcCarthy
                          Recognized Expert MVP
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 14387

                          #72
                          Originally posted by RedSon
                          Bloody 'ell !
                          Don't tell me you want to start too.

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                          • r035198x
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 13225

                            #73
                            Originally posted by mmccarthy
                            It was a stupid bl**** argument in the first place.

                            These two would probably sit for hours and argue about whether or not black is a colour. Oh! That reminds me of someone else, I wonder who.
                            Technically speaking of course the absence of all colour cannot be called a colour.

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                            • MMcCarthy
                              Recognized Expert MVP
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 14387

                              #74
                              Originally posted by r035198x
                              Technically speaking of course the absence of all colour cannot be called a colour.
                              I give up, you're all hopeless :p

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                              • NeoPa
                                Recognized Expert Moderator MVP
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 32633

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Banfa
                                They have assumed something that is false to be true and therefore anything can be proved.
                                Originally posted by Motoma
                                From false premises, anything can be concluded.
                                A point I made in post #57 I thought.

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