db2 and lotus notes

**Mark A** · Nov 12 '05, 06:20 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

"hrishy" <hrishys@yahoo. co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I have heard rumors that Lotus notes would be moving to db2 as the
> datastore..woul d that mean db2 for windows and Linux have a shot in
> its arm and become as pervasive as oracle and ms-sql server..
>
> would appreciate your thoughts on this..
>
> regards
> Hrishy[/color]

I don't know where you get your information, but DB2 is quite pervasive on
Windows and Linux. If you would like to try DB2 for Windows, you can
download the 90 day evaluation copy and install it. Works great, just like
on Unix and Linux platforms, although the hardware for a Windows server is
typically somewhat less robust than the others. You can also download the
Linux version.

BTW, MS-SQL Server only runs on Windows, not Linux or any other OS.

**Larry** · Nov 12 '05, 06:20 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

I would agree, DB2 doesn't need LOTUS Notes to be pervasive. It already
is. But I have heard the same rumors about LOTUS Notes.

Larry Edelstein

Mark A wrote:[color=blue]
> "hrishy" <hrishys@yahoo. co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4ef2a838.0 401252148.68efa a93@posting.goo gle.com...
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>>Hi
>>
>>I have heard rumors that Lotus notes would be moving to db2 as the
>>datastore..wo uld that mean db2 for windows and Linux have a shot in
>>its arm and become as pervasive as oracle and ms-sql server..
>>
>>would appreciate your thoughts on this..
>>
>>regards
>>Hrishy[/color]
>
>
> I don't know where you get your information, but DB2 is quite pervasive on
> Windows and Linux. If you would like to try DB2 for Windows, you can
> download the 90 day evaluation copy and install it. Works great, just like
> on Unix and Linux platforms, although the hardware for a Windows server is
> typically somewhat less robust than the others. You can also download the
> Linux version.
>
> BTW, MS-SQL Server only runs on Windows, not Linux or any other OS.
>
>[/color]

**hrishy** · Nov 12 '05, 06:20 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

Hi Mark

i just read a amarket survey..which said Db2 has 33% amrket shared
followed closely by oracle and then by sql server and sybase..Now what
made me curious was that db2 share might include mainframes and
informix takeover and the number might be screwed..and in order to
offset that IBM might announce that Lotus notes move its store to Db2
making significant consolidations into the the Unix and windoze
market..:-)..Not that IBM strategist might not have thought about
it..but still :-)

regards
Hrishy

"Mark A" <ma@switchboard .net> wrote in message news:<hd2Rb.112 $7A.93957@news. uswest.net>...[color=blue]
> "hrishy" <hrishys@yahoo. co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4ef2a838.0 401252148.68efa a93@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
> > Hi
> >
> > I have heard rumors that Lotus notes would be moving to db2 as the
> > datastore..woul d that mean db2 for windows and Linux have a shot in
> > its arm and become as pervasive as oracle and ms-sql server..
> >
> > would appreciate your thoughts on this..
> >
> > regards
> > Hrishy[/color]
>
> I don't know where you get your information, but DB2 is quite pervasive on
> Windows and Linux. If you would like to try DB2 for Windows, you can
> download the 90 day evaluation copy and install it. Works great, just like
> on Unix and Linux platforms, although the hardware for a Windows server is
> typically somewhat less robust than the others. You can also download the
> Linux version.
>
> BTW, MS-SQL Server only runs on Windows, not Linux or any other OS.[/color]

**Serge Rielau** · Nov 12 '05, 06:21 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

What do you mean by pervasive?
You are correct that Lotus Notes is working to foot on DB2.
This was announced a whiel ago.
As of today Notes uses a filesystem as datastore.
The idea is to reuse technology.
You also find DB2 in Websphere and Tivoli today.

This has no impact whatsoever on DB2.

Cheers
Serge

**Mark A** · Nov 12 '05, 06:21 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

> Hi Mark[color=blue]
>
> i just read a amarket survey..which said Db2 has 33% amrket shared
> followed closely by oracle and then by sql server and sybase..Now what
> made me curious was that db2 share might include mainframes and
> informix takeover and the number might be screwed..and in order to
> offset that IBM might announce that Lotus notes move its store to Db2
> making significant consolidations into the the Unix and windoze
> market..:-)..Not that IBM strategist might not have thought about
> it..but still :-)
>
> regards
> Hrishy
>[/color]
DB2 does not have the largest market share on UNIX or Windows, however their
market share is significant. IBM as a company (including DB2, IMS, and
Informix) may have the largest share of the total DBMS market.

I have been hearing about the integration of DB2 and Lotus Notes for many
years. It makes logical sense since Lotus Notes has its own database
technology built into it, which is somewhat redundant with DB2 and not as a
sophisticated as DB2 in terms of integrity and recovery. Besides email
features, Louts Notes has a much used application development environment.

I don't think that the integration of DB2 technology into Lotus Notes has
anything to do with rigging the statistics on market share. It's just common
sense.

**Serge Rielau** · Nov 12 '05, 06:21 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

Also when Oracle sells Collaboration Suite or MS SQL Server ships under
Outlook?
Anyone doubt that these are counted as revenue?
Just because an app is owned by the DBMS vendor doesn't make it less of
an app and the DBMS less of a DBMS.

Cheers
Serge

**Database Guy** · Nov 12 '05, 06:21 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

Serge Rielau <srielau@ca.e ye-be-em.com> wrote in message news:<bv33ft$of a$1@hanover.tor olab.ibm.com>.. .
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> You are correct that Lotus Notes is working to foot on DB2.
> This was announced a whiel ago.
> As of today Notes uses a filesystem as datastore.
> The idea is to reuse technology.[/color]

Lotus Notes Client currently runs on OS X. But DB2 doesn't. So does
this mean that DB2 will now be ported to OS X (at last)?

The fact that DB2 runs on Linux not OS X, and Lotus Notes Client on OS
X but not Linux is a serious irritation for those of us who happen to
use both products, but want to move off Windows. It doesn't exactly
shout "IBM joined up thinking".

DG

**Mark A** · Nov 12 '05, 06:21 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

"Database Guy" <dbguy101@hotma il.com> wrote in message
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> Lotus Notes Client currently runs on OS X. But DB2 doesn't. So does
> this mean that DB2 will now be ported to OS X (at last)?
>
> The fact that DB2 runs on Linux not OS X, and Lotus Notes Client on OS
> X but not Linux is a serious irritation for those of us who happen to
> use both products, but want to move off Windows. It doesn't exactly
> shout "IBM joined up thinking".
>
> DG[/color]

If DB2 is imbedded within Lotus Notes to replace their existing database
technology, don't expect it to be the full blown DB2 product that exists
now.

**Matt Emmerton** · Nov 12 '05, 06:21 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

"Mark A" <ma@switchboard .net> wrote in message
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> "Database Guy" <dbguy101@hotma il.com> wrote in message
> news:7fdee71c.0 401261501.3183a 9c3@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
> > Lotus Notes Client currently runs on OS X. But DB2 doesn't. So does
> > this mean that DB2 will now be ported to OS X (at last)?
> >
> > The fact that DB2 runs on Linux not OS X, and Lotus Notes Client on OS
> > X but not Linux is a serious irritation for those of us who happen to
> > use both products, but want to move off Windows. It doesn't exactly
> > shout "IBM joined up thinking".
> >
> > DG[/color]
>
> If DB2 is imbedded within Lotus Notes to replace their existing database
> technology, don't expect it to be the full blown DB2 product that exists
> now.[/color]

And expect it to be supported on the server first, since that's where the
majority of the benefit of having a real RDBMS lies. Having a stripped-down
DB2 in the Notes client only makes sense in certain (not too widespread)
situations.

--
Matt Emmerton

**Serge Rielau** · Nov 12 '05, 06:22 AM

Re: db2 and lotus notes

Notes Client not running on Linux? Yeah that would be stupid of IBM and
certianly undermine it's reputation with the Linux community. That
better be fixed soon ;-)

Cheers
Serge

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