Querry on pointers

[abhaybhat]

Hello all,

char a[2]
char* u8
int u32

u8 = &u32

Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?
Why is this not possible?

I want to transfer all the data from array a to u32.


Thanks

[Chris Dollin]

Re: Querry on pointers

abhaybhat wrote:

Hello all,
>
char a[2]
char* u8
int u32
>
u8 = &u32

You want to assign an int* to a char*? That sounds
like a recipe for confusion.

Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?
Why is this not possible?

It's /possible/. It's likely not /wise/, depending.

I want to transfer all the data from array a to u32.

u32 = (a[1] << 8) + a[0];

(where `8` should likely be spelled `CHAR_BIT` and `1`
and `0` may need interchanging depending on what
endianness you've picked for the bytes.)

No pointer-type-games needed.

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[santosh]

Re: Querry on pointers

abhaybhat wrote:

Hello all,
>
char a[2]
char* u8
int u32
>
u8 = &u32
>
Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?

Not portably. A pointer of type T* may hold either the value NULL or the
address of an object of type T. The special pointer void* may hold NULL
or the address of any object type, but may not be deferenced. Nor can
you do pointer arithmetic on void*.

Why is this not possible?

That's how the language has been designed. The main reason is
implementabilit y on systems where different pointer types may be
incompatible with each other, i.e., their size may be different, their
representation may be different, etc.

<snip>

[vippstar@gmail.com]

Re: Querry on pointers

On Jun 12, 3:38 pm, Chris Dollin <chris.dol...@h p.comwrote:

abhaybhat wrote:

Hello all,

>

char a[2]
char* u8
int u32

>

u8 = &u32

>
You want to assign an int* to a char*? That sounds
like a recipe for confusion.
>

Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?
Why is this not possible?

>
It's /possible/. It's likely not /wise/, depending.
>

I want to transfer all the data from array a to u32.

>
u32 = (a[1] << 8) + a[0];
>
(where `8` should likely be spelled `CHAR_BIT` and `1`
and `0` may need interchanging depending on what
endianness you've picked for the bytes.)

AFAIK that won't work if int's size is char's size as well. (*if* 8 is
replaced with CHAR_BIT)

[Barry Schwarz]

Re: Querry on pointers

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:09:39 -0700 (PDT), abhaybhat
<abhayjb@gmail. comwrote:

>Hello all,
>
>char a[2]
>char* u8
>int u32
>
>u8 = &u32
>
>Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?

Not implicitly.

>Why is this not possible?

It is possible; use a cast.

>
>I want to transfer all the data from array a to u32.

Use memcpy. But why? Is there any guarantee that the result will be
in any way meaningful? Based on you names, it looks like a will
occupy only half of u32. What will you do with the other half?

You could put a and u32 in a union and not need to transfer anything.


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[vippstar@gmail.com]

Re: Querry on pointers

On Jun 12, 4:07 pm, Barry Schwarz <schwa...@dqel. comwrote:

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:09:39 -0700 (PDT), abhaybhat
>
<abha...@gmail. comwrote:

Hello all,

>

char a[2]
char* u8
int u32

>

u8 = &u32

>

Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?

>
Not implicitly.

char *p = 0;

[Nick Keighley]

Re: Querry on pointers

On 12 Jun, 13:09, abhaybhat <abha...@gmail. comwrote:

char a[2]
char* u8
int u32

I'm never too fond of things like u8 and u32,
but if you must use them then most people would expect
the "u" to stand for unsigned. char may or may not be unsigned
int is never unsigned.

If u8 is 8-bits and u32 is 32-bits then a u32 will
consist of 4 u8s not 2 as you imply.

u8 = &u32
>
Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?
Why is this not possible?
>
I want to transfer all the data from array a to u32.

I bet you don't.


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[Chris Dollin]

Re: Querry on pointers

vippstar@gmail. com wrote:

On Jun 12, 4:07 pm, Barry Schwarz <schwa...@dqel. comwrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:09:39 -0700 (PDT), abhaybhat
>>
><abha...@gmail .comwrote:

>Hello all,

>>

>char a[2]
>char* u8
>int u32

>>

>u8 = &u32

>>

>Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?

>>
>Not implicitly.

char *p = 0;

That's not an example of "referance a char pointer to int"
(by which the OP seems to mean "assign an int pointer value
to a char pointer variable").

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[Chris Dollin]

Re: Querry on pointers

vippstar@gmail. com wrote:

On Jun 12, 3:38 pm, Chris Dollin <chris.dol...@h p.comwrote:

>abhaybhat wrote:

Hello all,

>>

char a[2]
char* u8
int u32

>>

u8 = &u32

>>
>You want to assign an int* to a char*? That sounds
>like a recipe for confusion.
>>

Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?
Why is this not possible?

>>
>It's /possible/. It's likely not /wise/, depending.
>>

I want to transfer all the data from array a to u32.

>>
> u32 = (a[1] << 8) + a[0];
>>
>(where `8` should likely be spelled `CHAR_BIT` and `1`
> and `0` may need interchanging depending on what
> endianness you've picked for the bytes.)

AFAIK that won't work if int's size is char's size as well. (*if* 8 is
replaced with CHAR_BIT)

If `sizeof(int)` equals `sizeof(char)`, what the OP wants to do
cannot be done at all (and their chosen names would be misleading).
Quarts & pint pots.

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[vippstar@gmail.com]

Re: Querry on pointers

On Jun 12, 4:27 pm, Chris Dollin <chris.dol...@h p.comwrote:

vipps...@gmail. com wrote:

On Jun 12, 3:38 pm, Chris Dollin <chris.dol...@h p.comwrote:

abhaybhat wrote:
Hello all,

>

char a[2]
char* u8
int u32

>

u8 = &u32

>

You want to assign an int* to a char*? That sounds
like a recipe for confusion.

>

Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?
Why is this not possible?

>

It's /possible/. It's likely not /wise/, depending.

>

I want to transfer all the data from array a to u32.

>

u32 = (a[1] << 8) + a[0];

>

(where `8` should likely be spelled `CHAR_BIT` and `1`
and `0` may need interchanging depending on what
endianness you've picked for the bytes.)

AFAIK that won't work if int's size is char's size as well. (*if* 8 is
replaced with CHAR_BIT)

>
If `sizeof(int)` equals `sizeof(char)`, what the OP wants to do
cannot be done at all (and their chosen names would be misleading).
Quarts & pint pots.

Their names are misleading nonetheless.
Using <stdint.hand uintN_t it can be done:

uint8_t arrayu8[2];
/*...*/
uint32_t u32 = arrayu8[1] << 8 | arrrayu8[0];

It is not however portable to use << CHAR_BIT or >CHAR_BIT with any
integer expression.

[Chris Dollin]

Re: Querry on pointers

vippstar@gmail. com wrote:

On Jun 12, 4:27 pm, Chris Dollin <chris.dol...@h p.comwrote:

>vipps...@gmail .com wrote:

On Jun 12, 3:38 pm, Chris Dollin <chris.dol...@h p.comwrote:
>abhaybhat wrote:
Hello all,

>>

char a[2]
char* u8
int u32

>>

u8 = &u32

>>

>You want to assign an int* to a char*? That sounds
>like a recipe for confusion.

>>

Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?
Why is this not possible?

>>

>It's /possible/. It's likely not /wise/, depending.

>>

I want to transfer all the data from array a to u32.

>>

> u32 = (a[1] << 8) + a[0];

>>

>(where `8` should likely be spelled `CHAR_BIT` and `1`
> and `0` may need interchanging depending on what
> endianness you've picked for the bytes.)
AFAIK that won't work if int's size is char's size as well. (*if* 8 is
replaced with CHAR_BIT)

>>
>If `sizeof(int)` equals `sizeof(char)`, what the OP wants to do
>cannot be done at all (and their chosen names would be misleading).
>Quarts & pint pots.

Their names are misleading nonetheless.
Using <stdint.hand uintN_t it can be done:
>
uint8_t arrayu8[2];
/*...*/
uint32_t u32 = arrayu8[1] << 8 | arrrayu8[0];
>
It is not however portable to use << CHAR_BIT or >CHAR_BIT with any
integer expression.

When those expressions are not defined, the OP can't do what they
want anyway. When they can do what they want (or at least my
reading of it), the shifts are well-defined.

I agree that the code must be guarded somehow against undefinedness.

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[Keith Thompson]

Re: Querry on pointers

santosh <santosh.k83@gm ail.comwrites:

abhaybhat wrote:
>

>Hello all,
>>
>char a[2]
>char* u8
>int u32
>>
>u8 = &u32
>>
>Cant we referance a char pointer to int ?

>
Not portably. A pointer of type T* may hold either the value NULL or the
address of an object of type T. The special pointer void* may hold NULL
or the address of any object type, but may not be deferenced. Nor can
you do pointer arithmetic on void*.
>

>Why is this not possible?

>
That's how the language has been designed. The main reason is
implementabilit y on systems where different pointer types may be
incompatible with each other, i.e., their size may be different, their
representation may be different, etc.

I think the main reason is simple type safety, so programmers don't go
around assigning float values to int objects and so forth. (You can
still do such things, but it's a bit more complicated, and the
gyrations you have to go through make it a bit clearer that it's
non-portable.)

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