Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

[scholz.lothar@gmail.com]

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

[jacob navia]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

scholz.lothar@g mail.com wrote:

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

lcc-win can be bundled with your application.
You can contact me for prices and conditions.

Mail address:
jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr

P.S. I do eiffel too :-)

--
jacob navia
jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr
logiciels/informatique

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32

[Walter Roberson]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

In article <dd900d6f-af49-478a-b9a4-d1c45b4af381@x1 9g2000prg.googl egroups.com>,
<scholz.lothar@ gmail.comwrote:

>I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
>require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program.

Would it? Is there an external requirement that the extension language
be C? If not, then you could make the extension language something
comparatively simple to parse and build your own tiny compiler for it.
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[Harald van =?UTF-8?b?RMSzaw==?=]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

On Mon, 26 May 2008 09:34:08 -0700, scholz.lothar wrote:

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

I assume by tiny-c you mean tinycc. If so, it is also available for
Windows.

[gavenkoa]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

On May 26, 7:34 pm, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

May be to you enough use some scripting language such as `lua', which
engine may be used at runtime from shared lib (about 400 KiB),
available on many platform.

[Flash Gordon]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

Walter Roberson wrote, On 26/05/08 18:48:

In article <dd900d6f-af49-478a-b9a4-d1c45b4af381@x1 9g2000prg.googl egroups.com>,
<scholz.lothar@ gmail.comwrote:

>I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
>require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program.

>
Would it? Is there an external requirement that the extension language
be C? If not, then you could make the extension language something
comparatively simple to parse and build your own tiny compiler for it.

Or the OP could use one of the almost-C interpreters which are
embeddable. I have come across at least a couple.
--
Flash Gordon

[scholz.lothar@gmail.com]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

On 27 Mai, 02:29, gavenkoa <gaven...@gmail .comwrote:

On May 26, 7:34 pm, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:
>

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

>
May be to you enough use some scripting language such as `lua', which
engine may be used at runtime from shared lib (about 400 KiB),
available on many platform.

Thanks, i checked that tinycc is working on windows and can generate
windows-dll's. Thats good. I'm already using lua for some more high
level scripting but some parts are speed critical enough that they
require the full power of compiled code and easy c string operations.

I will check if tinycc works reliable for my use case otherwise i
might
check mingw or contact jacob. Or does anybody know about another small
and free c compiler?

[thomas.mertes@gmx.at]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

On 27 Mai, 00:40, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

On 27 Mai, 02:29, gavenkoa <gaven...@gmail .comwrote:
>

On May 26, 7:34 pm, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

>

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

>

May be to you enough use some scripting language such as `lua', which
engine may be used at runtime from shared lib (about 400 KiB),
available on many platform.

>
Thanks, i checked that tinycc is working on windows and can generate
windows-dll's. Thats good. I'm already using lua for some more high
level scripting but some parts are speed critical enough that they
require the full power of compiled code and easy c string operations.
>
I will check if tinycc works reliable for my use case otherwise i
might
check mingw or contact jacob. Or does anybody know about another small
and free c compiler?

MinGW is ok, but it has to be determined which files need
to be added to the bundle. AFAIK MinGW needs more than one
*.exe file. There are also such things as header files
and libraries.

Greetings Thomas Mertes

Seed7 Homepage: http://seed7.sourceforge.net
Seed7 - The extensible programming language: User defined statements
and operators, abstract data types, templates without special
syntax, OO with interfaces and multiple dispatch, statically typed,
interpreted or compiled, portable, runs under linux/unix/windows.

[Bartc]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

<thomas.mertes@ gmx.atwrote in message
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On 27 Mai, 00:40, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

>On 27 Mai, 02:29, gavenkoa <gaven...@gmail .comwrote:
>>

On May 26, 7:34 pm, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

>>

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

>>

May be to you enough use some scripting language such as `lua', which
engine may be used at runtime from shared lib (about 400 KiB),
available on many platform.

>>
>Thanks, i checked that tinycc is working on windows and can generate
>windows-dll's. Thats good. I'm already using lua for some more high
>level scripting but some parts are speed critical enough that they
>require the full power of compiled code and easy c string operations.
>>
>I will check if tinycc works reliable for my use case otherwise i
>might
>check mingw or contact jacob. Or does anybody know about another small
>and free c compiler?

MinGW is ok, but it has to be determined which files need
to be added to the bundle. AFAIK MinGW needs more than one
*.exe file. There are also such things as header files
and libraries.

My version of mingw comprises 55MB in some 700 files. I wouldn't exactly
call it small.

--
Bartc

[thomas.mertes@gmx.at]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

On 27 Mai, 11:45, "Bartc" <b...@freeuk.co mwrote:

<thomas.mer...@ gmx.atwrote in message
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On 27 Mai, 00:40, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

On 27 Mai, 02:29, gavenkoa <gaven...@gmail .comwrote:

>

On May 26, 7:34 pm, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

>

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

>

May be to you enough use some scripting language such as `lua', which
engine may be used at runtime from shared lib (about 400 KiB),
available on many platform.

>

Thanks, i checked that tinycc is working on windows and can generate
windows-dll's. Thats good. I'm already using lua for some more high
level scripting but some parts are speed critical enough that they
require the full power of compiled code and easy c string operations.

>

I will check if tinycc works reliable for my use case otherwise i
might
check mingw or contact jacob. Or does anybody know about another small
and free c compiler?

MinGW is ok, but it has to be determined which files need
to be added to the bundle. AFAIK MinGW needs more than one
*.exe file. There are also such things as header files
and libraries.

>
My version of mingw comprises 55MB in some 700 files. I wouldn't exactly
call it small.

The question is:
How many of this 700 files are necessary to compile a given
bundle you want to release?

Greetings Thomas Mertes

Seed7 Homepage: http://seed7.sourceforge.net
Seed7 - The extensible programming language: User defined statements
and operators, abstract data types, templates without special
syntax, OO with interfaces and multiple dispatch, statically typed,
interpreted or compiled, portable, runs under linux/unix/windows.

[Bartc]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?


<thomas.mertes@ gmx.atwrote in message
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On 27 Mai, 11:45, "Bartc" <b...@freeuk.co mwrote:

><thomas.mer... @gmx.atwrote in message
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On 27 Mai, 00:40, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:
>On 27 Mai, 02:29, gavenkoa <gaven...@gmail .comwrote:

>>

On May 26, 7:34 pm, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

>>

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix
it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

>>

May be to you enough use some scripting language such as `lua',
which
engine may be used at runtime from shared lib (about 400 KiB),
available on many platform.

>>

>Thanks, i checked that tinycc is working on windows and can generate
>windows-dll's. Thats good. I'm already using lua for some more high
>level scripting but some parts are speed critical enough that they
>require the full power of compiled code and easy c string operations.

>>

>I will check if tinycc works reliable for my use case otherwise i
>might
>check mingw or contact jacob. Or does anybody know about another small
>and free c compiler?
MinGW is ok, but it has to be determined which files need
to be added to the bundle. AFAIK MinGW needs more than one
*.exe file. There are also such things as header files
and libraries.

>>
>My version of mingw comprises 55MB in some 700 files. I wouldn't exactly
>call it small.

The question is:
How many of this 700 files are necessary to compile a given
bundle you want to release?

I've no idea. Maybe somewhere in that a lot is an utility to determine the
minimalistic mingw distribution needed to compile a given application,
ignoring the possibility of the extensions requiring something extra.

Otherwise trawling through the 690 files and 89 directories of mingw might
take a while. (Apparently the 'min' of mingw means minimalistic; I wonder
how big the full version is!)

--
bartc

[jacob navia]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

Bartc wrote:

<thomas.mertes@ gmx.atwrote in message
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>On 27 Mai, 11:45, "Bartc" <b...@freeuk.co mwrote:

>
I've no idea. Maybe somewhere in that a lot is an utility to determine the
minimalistic mingw distribution needed to compile a given application,
ignoring the possibility of the extensions requiring something extra.
>
Otherwise trawling through the 690 files and 89 directories of mingw might
take a while. (Apparently the 'min' of mingw means minimalistic; I wonder
how big the full version is!)
>

lcc-win is a 5MB download (compressed). It has the same functionality of
mingw (excluding the C++ support of course). In that 5MB there is

o a full IDE with windowed debugger
o Project management!make
o linker, assembler,compi ler
o librarian, resource editor
o resource compiler
o grep/diff/software metrics
o object file cross reference
o all header files of windows
o Counted string library, statistics
library, extended precision floats,
extended special functions math library,

That is because the philosophy of lcc-win is to produce
small but powerful programs.


--
jacob navia
jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr
logiciels/informatique

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32

[ca1]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

what about some small lisp dialect. or even wrote one (it's
comp.lang.c)! it would surely be very enlightening.
Abuse has been, for example, written in C and scripting was done
with lisp(-like) language.
source code is available somewhere.
i haven't wrote one myself yet. but it seem you only have to take
care of evaluation ...

[thomas.mertes@gmx.at]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

On 28 Mai, 00:43, jacob navia <ja...@nospam.c omwrote:

Bartc wrote:

<thomas.mer...@ gmx.atwrote in message
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On 27 Mai, 11:45, "Bartc" <b...@freeuk.co mwrote:

>

I've no idea. Maybe somewhere in that a lot is an utility to determine the
minimalistic mingw distribution needed to compile a given application,
ignoring the possibility of the extensions requiring something extra.

>

Otherwise trawling through the 690 files and 89 directories of mingw might
take a while. (Apparently the 'min' of mingw means minimalistic; I wonder
how big the full version is!)

>
lcc-win is a 5MB download (compressed). It has the same functionality of
mingw (excluding the C++ support of course). In that 5MB there is

[snip]
AFAICS lcc-win is "free for non-commercial use" which means
that it is not under the GPL. Is this correct?

For Seed7 I use the GPL (and the LGPL for the libraries).
Therefore I would not use anything which is not under the
GPL or annother open source license. Sorry but anything
which contains a phrase like "free for non-commercial use"
is not free enough for me.

Greetings Thomas Mertes

Seed7 Homepage: http://seed7.sourceforge.net
Seed7 - The extensible programming language: User defined statements
and operators, abstract data types, templates without special
syntax, OO with interfaces and multiple dispatch, statically typed,
interpreted or compiled, portable, runs under linux/unix/windows.

[thomas.mertes@gmx.at]

Re: Very Small C Compiler which can generate DLL files?

On 27 Mai, 23:58, "Bartc" <b...@freeuk.co mwrote:

<thomas.mer...@ gmx.atwrote in message
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>
>

On 27 Mai, 11:45, "Bartc" <b...@freeuk.co mwrote:

<thomas.mer...@ gmx.atwrote in message

>

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>

On 27 Mai, 00:40, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:
On 27 Mai, 02:29, gavenkoa <gaven...@gmail .comwrote:

>

On May 26, 7:34 pm, scholz.lot...@g mail.com wrote:

>

I want to add some extension features to my program and this would
require that i bundle a small c compiler with my program. On Unix
it
seems that tiny-c can do this, but i don't know about windows.

>

May be to you enough use some scripting language such as `lua',
which
engine may be used at runtime from shared lib (about 400 KiB),
available on many platform.

>

Thanks, i checked that tinycc is working on windows and can generate
windows-dll's. Thats good. I'm already using lua for some more high
level scripting but some parts are speed critical enough that they
require the full power of compiled code and easy c string operations.

>

I will check if tinycc works reliable for my use case otherwise i
might
check mingw or contact jacob. Or does anybody know about another small
and free c compiler?
MinGW is ok, but it has to be determined which files need
to be added to the bundle. AFAIK MinGW needs more than one
*.exe file. There are also such things as header files
and libraries.

>

My version of mingw comprises 55MB in some 700 files. I wouldn't exactly
call it small.

The question is:
How many of this 700 files are necessary to compile a given
bundle you want to release?

>
I've no idea. Maybe somewhere in that a lot is an utility to determine the
minimalistic mingw distribution needed to compile a given application,
ignoring the possibility of the extensions requiring something extra.
>
Otherwise trawling through the 690 files and 89 directories of mingw might
take a while.

Maybe it is possible to start just with the binary of
gcc (the driver program) and add librarys, include files
and other programs step by step...

(Apparently the 'min' of mingw means minimalistic; I wonder
how big the full version is!)

The full version is gcc + gnu utilities.

From time to time I have requests to release a binary
version of Seed7 for Windows. In such a release the
interpreter (hi) would work without problems, but
the Seed7 compiler (comp) produces C and therefor a
C compiler would be needed also.

For that reason I would prefer a "binary" release which
contains the normal source release + a C compiler (for
windows) in binary form (To avoid any license problems
that C compiler should be under the GPL). A binary make
utility would also be needed.

Greetings Thomas Mertes

Seed7 Homepage: http://seed7.sourceforge.net
Seed7 - The extensible programming language: User defined statements
and operators, abstract data types, templates without special
syntax, OO with interfaces and multiple dispatch, statically typed,
interpreted or compiled, portable, runs under linux/unix/windows.