Text editor

[sid]

Hi!
I am sorry that I am asking a little off topic question, but I am
sure some of you can surely help me. I am writiing a VI like text
editor in C++ for the console. I would like to know some opensource
tools that would help me build it faster. Also, What would be the best
approach to build it?
Thank You.

[Gianni Mariani]

Re: Text editor

sid wrote:

Hi!
I am sorry that I am asking a little off topic question, but I am
sure some of you can surely help me. I am writiing a VI like text
editor in C++ for the console. I would like to know some opensource
tools that would help me build it faster. Also, What would be the best
approach to build it?

gcc?

I'm sorry, your answer is too nonspecific to even being to pointing out
possible help, let alone the question being off topic.

Read the faq, that will certainly help in getting good C++ code when you
do get to write it. If you have any questions about the FAQ then you're
in luck here !

[jason.cipriani@gmail.com]

Re: Text editor

On Mar 20, 5:35 am, sid <kingsiddha...@ gmail.comwrote:

Hi!
I am sorry that I am asking a little off topic question, but I am
sure some of you can surely help me. I am writiing a VI like text
editor in C++ for the console. I would like to know some opensource
tools that would help me build it faster. Also, What would be the best
approach to build it?

How about VI? It provides VI-like text editor functionality that you
can add to your console application with just a single API call:

system("vi");

Thank You.

Jason

[Paavo Helde]

Re: Text editor

sid <kingsiddharth@ gmail.comwrote in news:f3103bba-029d-47fc-a804-
a95852690788@d4 g2000prg.google groups.com:

Hi!
I am sorry that I am asking a little off topic question, but I am
sure some of you can surely help me. I am writiing a VI like text
editor in C++ for the console. I would like to know some opensource
tools that would help me build it faster. Also, What would be the best
approach to build it?
Thank You.

To reuse vi code? The Linux implementation should be open-source AFAIK. If
this does not suit you you could at least use ncurses (these are a bit
portable so should be not totally outlawed in this ng).

hth
Paavo

[Thomas Dickey]

Re: Text editor

James Kanze <james.kanze@gm ail.comwrote:

Linux doesn't really have vi, only vim. And although vim does
have a vi compatible mode, it also has a lot more.

Actually, Linux doesn't "have" any particular editor.

Linux distributions and users can "have" a choice of editors.
For example, I have (on Linux...) elvis, nvi, vim and vile
(as well as some other editors). nvi is closer to vi than vim.

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[James Kanze]

Re: Text editor

On 22 mar, 15:03, Thomas Dickey <dic...@saltmin e.radix.netwrot e:

James Kanze <james.ka...@gm ail.comwrote:

Linux doesn't really have vi, only vim. And although vim does
have a vi compatible mode, it also has a lot more.

Actually, Linux doesn't "have" any particular editor.

Linux distributions and users can "have" a choice of editors.
For example, I have (on Linux...) elvis, nvi, vim and vile (as
well as some other editors). nvi is closer to vi than vim.

In a certain sense, that's true of all systems. And the
"official" standard editor of Posix (and presumably Posix-like)
systems, like Linux, is ed. Still, there is a generally
accepted sense in which vi is the "standard" Unix editor, and at
least in the Linux distributions I've seen, /usr/bin/vi is a
symbolic link to vim. (Of course, if you actually have any real
editing job to do, you'll invoke gvim or emacs. At least under
Unix or Windows---people working on mainframes have different
habits.)

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[Jeff Schwab]

Re: Text editor

James Kanze wrote:

least in the Linux distributions I've seen, /usr/bin/vi is a
symbolic link to vim. (Of course, if you actually have any real
editing job to do, you'll invoke gvim or emacs.

Why gvim, as opposed to vim? I almost exclusively use vim inside GNU
screen, inside a terminal emulator.

[jason.cipriani@gmail.com]

Re: Text editor

On Mar 22, 12:20 pm, Jeff Schwab <j...@schwabcen ter.comwrote:

James Kanze wrote:

least in the Linux distributions I've seen, /usr/bin/vi is a
symbolic link to vim. (Of course, if you actually have any real
editing job to do, you'll invoke gvim or emacs.

>
Why gvim, as opposed to vim? I almost exclusively use vim inside GNU
screen, inside a terminal emulator.

Emacs is the best of all. Vim sucks. Also Windows has way better text
editors than Linux.

[red floyd]

Re: Text editor

jason.cipriani@ gmail.com wrote:

On Mar 22, 12:20 pm, Jeff Schwab <j...@schwabcen ter.comwrote:

>James Kanze wrote:

>>least in the Linux distributions I've seen, /usr/bin/vi is a
>>symbolic link to vim. (Of course, if you actually have any real
>>editing job to do, you'll invoke gvim or emacs.

>Why gvim, as opposed to vim? I almost exclusively use vim inside GNU
>screen, inside a terminal emulator.

>
Emacs is the best of all. Vim sucks. Also Windows has way better text
editors than Linux.

Yeah, if you like taking your hands off the keyboard. Vi (or even --
gasp -- emacs) is much better if you're a touch typist.

[Thomas Dickey]

Re: Text editor

James Kanze <james.kanze@gm ail.comwrote:

On 22 mar, 15:03, Thomas Dickey <dic...@saltmin e.radix.netwrot e:

>James Kanze <james.ka...@gm ail.comwrote:

Linux doesn't really have vi, only vim. And although vim does
have a vi compatible mode, it also has a lot more.

>Actually, Linux doesn't "have" any particular editor.

>Linux distributions and users can "have" a choice of editors.
>For example, I have (on Linux...) elvis, nvi, vim and vile (as
>well as some other editors). nvi is closer to vi than vim.

In a certain sense, that's true of all systems. And the
"official" standard editor of Posix (and presumably Posix-like)
systems, like Linux, is ed. Still, there is a generally

vi's been standard for a while...

http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/vi.html

accepted sense in which vi is the "standard" Unix editor, and at
least in the Linux distributions I've seen, /usr/bin/vi is a
symbolic link to vim. (Of course, if you actually have any real

Most of them (not all).

editing job to do, you'll invoke gvim or emacs. At least under
Unix or Windows---people working on mainframes have different
habits.)

probably not (though I've started each this week, it was only to check
a detail).

hand

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[James Kanze]

Re: Text editor

On 22 mar, 17:20, Jeff Schwab <j...@schwabcen ter.comwrote:

James Kanze wrote:

least in the Linux distributions I've seen, /usr/bin/vi is a
symbolic link to vim. (Of course, if you actually have any real
editing job to do, you'll invoke gvim or emacs.

Why gvim, as opposed to vim? I almost exclusively use vim
inside GNU screen, inside a terminal emulator.

Because:-). I don't really know why---if I'm inside an xterm,
I'll often invoke vim, but most of the time, I want to edit and
invoke make from a separate window.

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[James Kanze]

Re: Text editor

On 22 mar, 18:01, "jason.cipri... @gmail.com"
<jason.cipri... @gmail.comwrote :

On Mar 22, 12:20 pm, Jeff Schwab <j...@schwabcen ter.comwrote:

James Kanze wrote:

least in the Linux distributions I've seen, /usr/bin/vi is
a symbolic link to vim. (Of course, if you actually have
any real editing job to do, you'll invoke gvim or emacs.

Why gvim, as opposed to vim? I almost exclusively use vim inside GNU
screen, inside a terminal emulator.

Emacs is the best of all. Vim sucks. Also Windows has way
better text editors than Linux.

I've never had the occasion to really use any purely Windows
editors intensively enough to form an opinion, but all of the
best Windows programmers I've met seem to use emacs or vim (most
often emacs), rather than a purely Windows editor.

My own experience with emacs is that I causes carpal tunnel
syndrome, because of the complicated positions it requires my
hand to take. (Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift:-).) Perhaps with
a different keyboard layout, but I've never taken the time to
study the possibilities. And this does seem to be personal, I
know more than a few very competent programmers who swear by
emacs (and who touch type, like I do), and don't seem to have
problems with it.

What I like about vim, of course, is that I never have to move
my hand from the base position for touch typing, and I rarely
have to use key combinations other than with shift (and the
shift key is placed in a way to make this comfortable). The
result is that I can work considerably faster with vim than with
any other editor.

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[James Kanze]

Re: Text editor

On 23 mar, 01:39, Thomas Dickey <dic...@saltmin e.radix.netwrot e:

James Kanze <james.ka...@gm ail.comwrote:

On 22 mar, 15:03, Thomas Dickey <dic...@saltmin e.radix.netwrot e:

James Kanze <james.ka...@gm ail.comwrote:
Linux doesn't really have vi, only vim. And although vim does
have a vi compatible mode, it also has a lot more.
Actually, Linux doesn't "have" any particular editor.
Linux distributions and users can "have" a choice of editors.
For example, I have (on Linux...) elvis, nvi, vim and vile (as
well as some other editors). nvi is closer to vi than vim.

In a certain sense, that's true of all systems. And the
"official" standard editor of Posix (and presumably Posix-like)
systems, like Linux, is ed. Still, there is a generally

vi's been standard for a while...

http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/...lities/vi.html

Still, I've used Unix where it wasn't present. (I *can* work
with ed if I have to.)

accepted sense in which vi is the "standard" Unix editor, and at
least in the Linux distributions I've seen, /usr/bin/vi is a
symbolic link to vim. (Of course, if you actually have any real

Most of them (not all).

As I said, the ones I've seen (Mandriva, SuSE and RedHat). Of
course, any administrator can change this anyway he wishes.

editing job to do, you'll invoke gvim or emacs. At least under
Unix or Windows---people working on mainframes have different
habits.)

probably not (though I've started each this week, it was only
to check a detail).

Some six or seven years ago, I was working on a project where we
where communicating with mainframes. I was offered an
introductory course, so that I could work on them as well. The
first day, they presented the editor. It was 3270 based, with
all of the commands on the function keys, and you had to mark
the lines before editing them. (The actual "editing" took place
locally, on the terminal.) At least there, that was the
standard way of working on the mainframe, and it was a far cry
from anything I've seen under Windows or Unix. Or anything I
really wanted to get into:-).

Thinking about it, of course, it wouldn't surprise me if a lot
of mainframe programmers simply downloaded the files, edited
them on a Windows machine, then uploaded them.

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