Boolean data type?

[Martin Wells]

I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool" in C++. It works
exactly like any other integer type except that when promoted, it
either becomes a one or a zero, so you can you bitwise operators as if
they were logical operators:

bool a = 5, b = 6;

if (a == b) DoSomething; /* This will execute */

What type is commonly used in C for playing around with boolean
values?

I'm writing code for an embedded systems project so I'll *really* have
to watch how much memory I'm using... so would it be wise to be
returning "int" from functions that I would otherwise (in C++) return
a bool from? For example

int QueryBit(char unsigned const *const pc, unsigned const index)
{
return *pc & (1U << index);
}

(Let's leave alone for the moment the issue of whether this should
instead be a macro)

I suppose I'm asking two questions:

a) What type is commonly used for booleans?
b) What type is commonly used for booleans when you've to go easy
on memory consumption?

Martin

[pete]

Re: Boolean data type?

Martin Wells wrote:

>
I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool" in C++. It works
exactly like any other integer type except that when promoted, it
either becomes a one or a zero, so you can you bitwise operators as if
they were logical operators:
>
bool a = 5, b = 6;
>
if (a == b) DoSomething; /* This will execute */
>
What type is commonly used in C for playing around with boolean
values?

int a = 5, b = 6;

if (!a == !b) DoSomething; /* This will execute */

--
pete

[Ian Collins]

Re: Boolean data type?

Martin Wells wrote:

>
I'm writing code for an embedded systems project so I'll *really* have
to watch how much memory I'm using... so would it be wise to be
returning "int" from functions that I would otherwise (in C++) return
a bool from? For example
>
>
I suppose I'm asking two questions:
>
a) What type is commonly used for booleans?
b) What type is commonly used for booleans when you've to go easy
on memory consumption?

In that case, if I didn't have access to a C99 compiler, or a compiler
with bool as an extension, I'd use an enum. Most embedded compilers I
have used have options to minimise the size of enums by using the
smallest type than holds the range of the enum values.

--
Ian Collins.

[user923005]

Re: Boolean data type?

On Sep 21, 4:22 pm, Martin Wells <war...@eircom. netwrote:

I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool" in C++. It works
exactly like any other integer type except that when promoted, it
either becomes a one or a zero, so you can you bitwise operators as if
they were logical operators:
>
bool a = 5, b = 6;
>
if (a == b) DoSomething; /* This will execute */
>
What type is commonly used in C for playing around with boolean
values?
>
I'm writing code for an embedded systems project so I'll *really* have
to watch how much memory I'm using... so would it be wise to be
returning "int" from functions that I would otherwise (in C++) return
a bool from? For example
>
int QueryBit(char unsigned const *const pc, unsigned const index)
{
return *pc & (1U << index);
>
}
>
(Let's leave alone for the moment the issue of whether this should
instead be a macro)
>
I suppose I'm asking two questions:
>
a) What type is commonly used for booleans?
b) What type is commonly used for booleans when you've to go easy
on memory consumption?

If you have C99 {where _Bool is a type} then:

ISO/IEC 9899:1999 (E) ©ISO/IEC
7.16 Boolean type and values <stdbool.h>
1 The header <stdbool.hdefin es four macros.
2 The macro
bool
expands to _Bool.
3 The remaining three macros are suitable for use in #if preprocessing
directives. They are:
true
which expands to the integer constant 1,
false
which expands to the integer constant 0, and
_ _bool_true_fals e_are_defined
which expands to the integer constant 1.
4 Notwithstanding the provisions of 7.1.3, a program may undefine and
perhaps then redefine the macros bool, true, and false.213)
213) See "future library directions" (7.26.7).
252 Library §7.16

Else just use enums or macros. Typically as enum:

typedef boolean_type {false=0, true} bool_t;

Typically as macro:

#ifndef FALSE
#define FALSE 0
#endif

#ifndef TRUE
#define TRUE !FALSE
#endif

[Keith Thompson]

Re: Boolean data type?

Martin Wells <warint@eircom. netwrites:

I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool" in C++. It works
exactly like any other integer type except that when promoted, it
either becomes a one or a zero, so you can you bitwise operators as if
they were logical operators:
>
bool a = 5, b = 6;
>
if (a == b) DoSomething; /* This will execute */
>
What type is commonly used in C for playing around with boolean
values?

<http://www.c-faq.com/>, section 9.

I'm writing code for an embedded systems project so I'll *really* have
to watch how much memory I'm using... so would it be wise to be
returning "int" from functions that I would otherwise (in C++) return
a bool from?

[...]

Using a type smaller than int for booleans is likely to save space,
but is also likely (but not certain) to increase code size. If your
CPU can load, store, and manipulate bytes as easily as words, using a
1-byte type makes sense; if not, int is likely to be a good choice.

If you want to have, say, large arrays of booleans, the tradeoffs
change. It might even make sense to store a boolean value in each bit
(but you'll have to write your own bitwise masking and shifting code
to do this -- or find something that's already been written).

Assuming C99's _Bool is not available, my favorite form is something
like:

typedef enum { false, true } bool;

This allows the compiler to decide how big to make a bool. But watch
out for name collisions if another library you're using defines its
own boolean type.

--
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[Martin Ambuhl]

Re: Boolean data type?

Martin Wells wrote:

I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool" in C++. It works
exactly like any other integer type except that when promoted, it
either becomes a one or a zero, so you can you bitwise operators as if
they were logical operators:
>
bool a = 5, b = 6;
>
if (a == b) DoSomething; /* This will execute */
>
What type is commonly used in C for playing around with boolean
values?

It used to be that C programmers did not rely on the boolean crutch,
since various kinds of integers serve quite well without losing
information. However, for some reason this expensive way to store
single bits has enough appeal that we now have:

#include <stdbool.h>
#include <stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
bool a_bool = 5, b_bool = 6; /* <stdbool.hcause s 'bool' to
expand to '_Bool' */
_Bool a_Bool = 5, b_Bool = 6;
unsigned int a_int = 5, b_int = 6;

printf("using 'bool' versions of a and b\n"
"a_bool = %u, compares %sequal to 'true'\n"
"b_bool = %u, compares %sequal to 'true'\n"
"the value of a_bool == b_bool is %u\n"
"the value of (a_bool == b_bool) == true is %u\n\n",
a_bool, (a_bool == true) ? "" : "not ",
b_bool, (b_bool == true) ? "" : "not ",
a_bool == b_bool, (a_bool == b_bool) == true);


printf("using '_Bool' versions of a and b\n"
"a_Bool = %u, compares %sequal to 'true'\n"
"b_Bool = %u, compares %sequal to 'true'\n"
"the value of a_Bool == b_Bool is %u\n"
"the value of (a_Bool == b_Bool) == true is %u\n\n",
a_Bool, (a_Bool == true) ? "" : "not ",
b_Bool, (b_Bool == true) ? "" : "not ",
a_Bool == b_Bool, (a_Bool == b_Bool) == true);

printf("using 'unsigned int' versions of a and b\n"
"a_bool = %u, compares %sequal to 'true'\n"
"b_bool = %u, compares %sequal to 'true'\n"
"the value of a_int == b_int is %u\n"
"the value of (a_int == b_int) == true is %u\n\n",
a_int, (a_int == true) ? "" : "not ",
b_int, (b_int == true) ? "" : "not ",
a_int == b_int, (a_int == b_int) == true);

return 0;
}

[output]
using 'bool' versions of a and b
a_bool = 1, compares equal to 'true'
b_bool = 1, compares equal to 'true'
the value of a_bool == b_bool is 1
the value of (a_bool == b_bool) == true is 1

using '_Bool' versions of a and b
a_Bool = 1, compares equal to 'true'
b_Bool = 1, compares equal to 'true'
the value of a_Bool == b_Bool is 1
the value of (a_Bool == b_Bool) == true is 1

using 'unsigned int' versions of a and b
a_bool = 5, compares not equal to 'true'
b_bool = 6, compares not equal to 'true'
the value of a_int == b_int is 0
the value of (a_int == b_int) == true is 0

[CBFalconer]

Re: Boolean data type?

Martin Wells wrote:

>
I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool" in C++. It works
exactly like any other integer type except that when promoted, it
either becomes a one or a zero, so you can you bitwise operators
as if they were logical operators:

There is no boolean type in C90. C99 has a _Bool type.

>

.... snip ...

>
I suppose I'm asking two questions:
>
a) What type is commonly used for booleans?
b) What type is commonly used for booleans when you've to
go easy on memory consumption?

>From N869:

[#6] For each of the signed integer types, there is a
corresponding (but different) unsigned integer type
(designated with the keyword unsigned) that uses the same
amount of storage (including sign information) and has the
same alignment requirements. The type _Bool and the
unsigned integer types that correspond to the standard
signed integer types are the standard unsigned integer
types. The unsigned integer types that correspond to the
extended signed integer types are the extended unsigned
integer types. The standard and extended unsigned integer
types are collectively called unsigned integer types.27)

If you #include <stdbool.hthe n bool is defined (as _Bool), and:

B.15 Boolean type and values <stdbool.h>

bool
true
false
__bool_true_fal se_are_defined

Note that this is only in C99.

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[Ark Khasin]

Re: Boolean data type?

Ian Collins wrote:

Martin Wells wrote:

>I'm writing code for an embedded systems project so I'll *really* have
>to watch how much memory I'm using... so would it be wise to be
>returning "int" from functions that I would otherwise (in C++) return
>a bool from? For example
>>
>>
>I suppose I'm asking two questions:
>>
> a) What type is commonly used for booleans?
> b) What type is commonly used for booleans when you've to go easy
>on memory consumption?

>
In that case, if I didn't have access to a C99 compiler, or a compiler
with bool as an extension, I'd use an enum. Most embedded compilers I
have used have options to minimise the size of enums by using the
smallest type than holds the range of the enum values.
>

I tried and adopted enum until I got a new version of the compiler that
supported _Bool. To my astonishment, _Bool generated much more efficient
code than the enum.
Still, honestly, there are very few precious cases where bool of any
sort has merits. They AFAIK are limited to temporarily storing results
of bulky comparisons and used only to improve readability (since the
compiler should optimize them out).
bool return type looks evil since the compiler effectively does
something like return !!x; it's an overhead I could do without.
-- Ark

[Peter J. Holzer]

Re: Boolean data type?

On 2007-09-21 23:22, Martin Wells <warint@eircom. netwrote:

>
I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool" in C++. It works
exactly like any other integer type except that when promoted, it
either becomes a one or a zero, so you can you bitwise operators as if
they were logical operators:
>
bool a = 5, b = 6;
>
if (a == b) DoSomething; /* This will execute */
>
What type is commonly used in C for playing around with boolean
values?
>
I'm writing code for an embedded systems project so I'll *really* have
to watch how much memory I'm using... so would it be wise to be
returning "int" from functions that I would otherwise (in C++) return
a bool from? For example
>
int QueryBit(char unsigned const *const pc, unsigned const index)
{
return *pc & (1U << index);
}

Worrying about the memory consumption of return types is probably
futile. On most systems the return value is passed in a register (if it
fits), so it always takes the same space and that space isn't in memory.

Also worrying about the size of simple variables probably doesn't make
much sense unless you really have a lot of them or are making heavy use
of recursive functions.

Where is the size really matters is in arrays. Storing boolean values in
an int[] wastes a lot of space (probably 15 or 31 bits per value,
depending on your platform). By using bool (if available), enum or char,
you may be able to reduce the overhead to 7 bits per value. But an array
element can never use less than 8 bits in C, so if that's still too
much, you should consider storing them in an array of unsigned int,
where each element holds the appropriate number of bits.


hp


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[Malcolm McLean]

Re: Boolean data type?


"Martin Wells" <warint@eircom. netwrote in message
news:1190416945 .513205.70370@n 39g2000hsh.goog legroups.com...

>
What type is commonly used in C for playing around with boolean
values?
>
a) What type is commonly used for booleans?
b) What type is commonly used for booleans when you've to go easy
on memory consumption?
>

int by convention.

So

int is_prime(int N)

for instance.

Not

typedef int BOOL;

BOOL is_prime(int N)

bool breaks libraries. You don't want everyone who happens to cut and paste
your is_prime function to be tied to BOOL throughout his code.

However unsigned char would work. (A pathological implementation could make
1 a trap value for characters).

Space is only a problem when you need several booleans on the go - eg an
array of a thousand of the things.

Method 1: use a bitfield. This will often save the most. Typically there
will be a integer field that doesn't need the full 32 bits and you can raid
for the boolean, thus giving you a zero memory footprint.
Method 2: use unsigned char for the array, convert to in the minute you read
and write it. This is very simple and fast.
Method 3: write a getbit() and setbit() function to manage a flat array of
unsigned chars. This is a nuisance, but gives you total control, over bit
packing. It will probably be slightly slower than the bitfield, and
considerably slower than the char array.
Method 4: (for the crazed). Typically you can compress a bitstream. This
will really squeeze down your memory take, at a cost of massive overhead.

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[Army1987]

Re: Boolean data type?

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:03:51 -0700, user923005 wrote:

Typically as macro:
>
#ifndef FALSE
#define FALSE 0
#endif
>
#ifndef TRUE
#define TRUE !FALSE

What's wrong with
#define TRUE 1
? If you want to do that, put parentheses at least, so that, er...
TRUE[arr] will do the right thing... :-)

#endif

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[pete]

Re: Boolean data type?

Malcolm McLean wrote:

Method 3: write a getbit() and setbit()
function to manage a flat array of unsigned chars.
This is a nuisance, but gives you total control, over bit
packing. It will probably be slightly slower than the bitfield, and
considerably slower than the char array.

I use macros. The last time that I tried to use a bitfield,
about ten years ago, the bitfield was much slower.
/*
** Some bitwise macros for unsigned U
*/
#define READ_UBIT(U, N) ((U) > (N) & 1u)
#define FLIP_UBIT(U, N) ((void)((U) ^= 1u << (N)))
#define SET_UBIT(U, N) ((void)((U) |= 1u << (N)))
#define CLEAR_UBIT(U, N) ((void)((U) &= ~(1u << (N))))

--
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[Roberto Waltman]

Re: Boolean data type?

Martin Wells <warint@eircom. netwrote:

>I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool"
>...
a) What type is commonly used for booleans?

I use bool, (partially because some of my code must be written in the
mythical C/C++ language):

#ifndef __cplusplus
typedef enum
{
false = 0,
true = !false
} bool;
#endif /* __cplusplus */

b) What type is commonly used for booleans when you've to go easy
>on memory consumption?

That depends on the compiler and target processor. A C compiler for
the 8051 architecture, for example, could use single bits without any
additional masking and shifting code.
If you have a very large number of booleans, a library providing bit
vector operations on a char array is probably a good choice.
--
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[Keith Thompson]

Re: Boolean data type?

"Malcolm McLean" <regniztar@btin ternet.comwrite s:
[...]

However unsigned char would work. (A pathological implementation could
make 1 a trap value for characters).

No, it couldn't. (I assume that by "characters " you mean values of
type 'char' and 'signed char'.)

There's no such thing as a "trap value"; there are only trap
representations . All three character types are guaranteed to be able
to represent the values 0 and 1 (in fact, they're all guaranteed to be
able to represent any values in the range 0..127).

Using plain char lets the compiler choose whichever representation,
signed or unsigned, gives the best performance (though there's no
guarantee that the compiler actually makes its choice based on
performane).

But if you're only dealing with singleton objects and values, int is
probably the best choice.

--
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[Keith Thompson]

Re: Boolean data type?

Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltma n.netwrites:

Martin Wells <warint@eircom. netwrote:

>>I come from C++, and there's a type called "bool"
>>...
> a) What type is commonly used for booleans?

>
I use bool, (partially because some of my code must be written in the
mythical C/C++ language):
>
#ifndef __cplusplus
typedef enum
{
false = 0,
true = !false
} bool;
#endif /* __cplusplus */

That's more complicated than it needs to be; you're telling the
compiler things it already knows. Using !false rather than just 1
buys you nothing; there's no chance that the value of !false will ever
be anything other than 1. And specifying *any* values is superfluous;
the language guarantees that the values will be 0 and 1, respectively.

typedef enum { false, true } bool;

is entirely adequate, though I *might* write:

typedef enum { false=0, true=1 } bool;

just for emphasis.

In fact, here's what I might do (if I really wanted compatibility with
both C and C++):

#ifdef __cplusplus
/* bool, false, and true are predefined. */
#elif __STDC_VERSION_ _ >= 199901L
#include <stdbool.h>
#else
typedef enum { false, true } bool;
#endif

Note that C99's 'bool' has certain properties that the enum type lacks
(and C++'s 'bool'probably does too); you just have to carefully write
your code to avoid excercising any of the differences.

> b) What type is commonly used for booleans when you've to go easy
>>on memory consumption?

>
That depends on the compiler and target processor. A C compiler for
the 8051 architecture, for example, could use single bits without any
additional masking and shifting code.

But an 8051 C compiler would have to be fairly clever to generate code
that accesses single-bit objects, since there's no really good way to
specify that in standard C. Or perhaps the compiler could provide
single-bit objects as an extension. Quite possibly compilers already
do this.

If you have a very large number of booleans, a library providing bit
vector operations on a char array is probably a good choice.

Agreed.

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