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  • Killer42
    Recognized Expert Expert
    • Oct 2006
    • 8429

    #16
    Originally posted by AdrianH
    ...But seriously, the way the question was worded and how he got uppity when I asked what it was for...
    Actually, I felt that you misinterpreted that response. It sounded to me as though the OP simply tried to clarify what they were asking for.

    On the other hand, perhaps I'm the one who misinterpreted. :)

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    • Motoma
      Recognized Expert Specialist
      • Jan 2007
      • 3236

      #17
      Originally posted by Killer42
      Actually, I felt that you misinterpreted that response. It sounded to me as though the OP simply tried to clarify what they were asking for.

      On the other hand, perhaps I'm the one who misinterpreted. :)
      This was the way I interpreted his response as well.

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      • RedSon
        Recognized Expert Expert
        • Jan 2007
        • 4980

        #18
        Originally posted by NeoPa
        Not everyone has your experience though, RedSon.
        My experience... ?! How is my experience any different then the rest of the people playing video games? Everyone knows how to enter in cheat codes or press the buttons is a special order to get power-ups. All you have to do is find the cheats online and put them in. Look at something as old as the 8-bit Nintendo, several games I owned had cheats. Like Contra, I still remember the key pattern. Madden games, have madden cards some are even labeled as "Cheat".
        Cheating in video games is part of the video game, its designed to be that way. Its either some debug tool that they left in as a cheat (like god mode in Doom) or it was purposefully designed to be a cheat (like Madden cards).

        Editing and corrupting binary .dll's is malicious, it can't be argued otherwise. If this forum wants to help people with tasks like this, I am happy to share my knowledge on cracking, but I don't know if TSDN wants to go down that road.

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        • Sebouh
          New Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 77

          #19
          Recourse Viewer is one tool i know that can edit .exe or .dll files. I haven't really used it much, but it's fun when you want to edit the GUI of programs, like replacing the donkey's face in eMule with your brother's, hehe...the expression on his face when he saw that..hehe!

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          • Motoma
            Recognized Expert Specialist
            • Jan 2007
            • 3236

            #20
            Originally posted by Sebouh
            Recourse Viewer is one tool i know that can edit .exe or .dll files. I haven't really used it much, but it's fun when you want to edit the GUI of programs, like replacing the donkey's face in eMule with your brother's, hehe...the expression on his face when he saw that..hehe!
            Resource Viewer is a good tool, however, it falls short of editing DLLs in the way our poster here desires. It is useful for editing resources, as the name suggest, images, icons, and strings are all fair game when using this tool.

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            • RedSon
              Recognized Expert Expert
              • Jan 2007
              • 4980

              #21
              That type of editing is common for localization. Which is also designed to work that way with a program.

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              • Sebouh
                New Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 77

                #22
                My bad, i mean to say XN Resource Editor.

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                • NeoPa
                  Recognized Expert Moderator MVP
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 32662

                  #23
                  Originally posted by RedSon
                  My experience... ?! How is my experience any different then the rest of the people playing video games?
                  I wasn't referring to people who play video games. I was referring to the moderators on this site.
                  Originally posted by RedSon
                  Everyone knows how to enter in cheat codes or press the buttons is a special order to get power-ups. All you have to do is find the cheats online and put them in. Look at something as old as the 8-bit Nintendo, several games I owned had cheats. Like Contra, I still remember the key pattern. Madden games, have madden cards some are even labeled as "Cheat".
                  Cheating in video games is part of the video game, its designed to be that way. Its either some debug tool that they left in as a cheat (like god mode in Doom) or it was purposefully designed to be a cheat (like Madden cards).
                  Not all cheats in video games are as innocuous though.
                  Whatever people may think, EvenBalance are still struggling to keep haxors out of online gaming. My game (ET) is particularly badly hit by this problem as the ID keys are free and recreatable simply by deleting a file in your ET folder. This may not be the same for other FPSs.
                  Originally posted by RedSon
                  Editing and corrupting binary .dll's is malicious, it can't be argued otherwise. If this forum wants to help people with tasks like this, I am happy to share my knowledge on cracking, but I don't know if TSDN wants to go down that road.
                  I certainly wouldn't support anyone (or even TSDN) deciding (in full knowledge) to help people with tasks like this. I can accept that our experts might give out such knowledge innocently but I, for one, would not want to be involved with any site that knowingly and deliberately helped anyone to cheat in online gaming.

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                  • Motoma
                    Recognized Expert Specialist
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3236

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NeoPa
                    Whatever people may think, EvenBalance are still struggling to keep haxors out of online gaming. My game (ET) is particularly badly hit by this problem as the ID keys are free and recreatable simply by deleting a file in your ET folder. This may not be the same for other FPSs.
                    Has PunkBuster been hacked? Or is this what you are referring to when you mention deleting the ET folder?

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                    • NeoPa
                      Recognized Expert Moderator MVP
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 32662

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Motoma
                      Has PunkBuster been hacked? Or is this what you are referring to when you mention deleting the ET folder?
                      PunkBuster can catch someone, but in ET the only way of identifying them is by the PB GUID. This is related to their ET Key file. When the file is deleted another one is created automatically by the game so it can be hard to track them :(
                      PunksBusted are doing a good job of trying to keep up (as not all hacks are detected by PB) but there are still very many hax that cannot be caught automatically by PB or even screenshot captures I'm afraid.
                      Techniques to foil them include randomly requested screenshots and logging these periodically to PunksBusted servers but it's certainly not a battle that's been won.

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                      • AdrianH
                        Recognized Expert Top Contributor
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 1251

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NeoPa
                        PunkBuster can catch someone, but in ET the only way of identifying them is by the PB GUID. This is related to their ET Key file. When the file is deleted another one is created automatically by the game so it can be hard to track them :(
                        PunksBusted are doing a good job of trying to keep up (as not all hacks are detected by PB) but there are still very many hax that cannot be caught automatically by PB or even screenshot captures I'm afraid.
                        Techniques to foil them include randomly requested screenshots and logging these periodically to PunksBusted servers but it's certainly not a battle that's been won.
                        What games are ET and PunkBuster?

                        Adrian

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                        • RedSon
                          Recognized Expert Expert
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 4980

                          #27
                          PunkBuster is an anti cheating technology you can run on your mutliplayer servers. ET I'm not so surea bout.

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                          • Motoma
                            Recognized Expert Specialist
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3236

                            #28
                            Originally posted by RedSon
                            PunkBuster is an anti cheating technology you can run on your mutliplayer servers. ET I'm not so surea bout.
                            Enemy Territory. I am not sure, however, whether he is referring to Wolfenstein or Quake Wars. (I've been out of the FPS loop for a couple of years now).

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                            • NeoPa
                              Recognized Expert Moderator MVP
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 32662

                              #29
                              Sorry, I should have been clearer.
                              ET --> 'Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory'.
                              This is a freely downloadable 'upgrade' to 'Return to Castle Wolfenstein' (RTCW).
                              PunkBuster (PB) is technology or software developed to restrict cheating in the online gaming arena.
                              PunksBusted is a group set up by server admins (of various different games) to help server admins ensure that caught haxxors (hackers) can be stopped from playing on their servers using the PBGUID (PunkBuster Game User ID).
                              ETQW --> 'Enemy Territory - Quake Wars'.
                              A much anticipated, non-free, sequel to ET. This is due to be released shortly over the pond, but I don't know about Blighty :(.

                              Many of the recent hacks will actually involve software running on the client PC which is not any part of the game itself (so not easily detectable) but can affect both the operator's ability to see important items on the screen, as well as the operators ability to aim at the desired target quickly and accurately. These (retrospectivel y, WallHacks & AimBots) hacks can only be detected by the randomly requested screenshots that can be uploaded to the PunksBusted server (WallHacks) and by Speccing (where you see through their eyes - approximately) the suspected player (AimBots).

                              ET has very prevalent cheating due to two main effects of it being freely downloadable :
                              1. The Key code to identify a player, being free, can be recreated ad infinitum.
                              2. Being free, it is a very popular game.

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