Dev cpp

[MC felon]

is Dev c++ the best compiler or visual c++ or what?

[mlimber]

Re: Dev cpp

MC felon wrote:

is Dev c++ the best compiler or visual c++ or what?

Trolling will get you no where.

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[Marcus Kwok]

Re: Dev cpp

MC felon <paec.nwa@gmail .comwrote:

is Dev c++ the best compiler or visual c++ or what?

You need to specify your criteria for "best" in order to make your
question meaningful. For example, "best" in terms of performance, or
price, or standards-compliance, etc. Also, the platform you're
developing for makes a difference too. Visual C++ probably is not the
best compiler if you are developing for a UNIX-like OS, for example.
Different compilers have their own individual strengths and weaknesses,
so the "best" one would be the one that most closely matches your
situation.

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[Julián Albo]

Re: Dev cpp

MC felon wrote:

is Dev c++ the best compiler or visual c++ or what?

What.

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[Rui Maciel]

Re: Dev cpp

MC felon wrote:

is Dev c++ the best compiler or visual c++ or what?

Bloodshed's Dev-C++ isn't a compiler. Neithe is Visual C++.


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[Howard]

Re: Dev cpp


"Julián Albo" <JULIANALBO@ter ra.eswrote in message
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MC felon wrote:
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>is Dev c++ the best compiler or visual c++ or what?

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What.
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Agreed, but only version 4.2 or later. Earlier versions of what sucked.

[Victor Bazarov]

Re: Dev cpp

Rui Maciel wrote:

MC felon wrote:
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>is Dev c++ the best compiler or visual c++ or what?

>
Bloodshed's Dev-C++ isn't a compiler. Neithe is Visual C++.

They each come with a compiler. Those compilers are different.
However, comparing compilers is a thankless job. Use what you can
find, or what your clients require. The "best" compiler is the
one you use *successfully*, i.e. to create programs *that work*.

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[Rui Maciel]

Re: Dev cpp

Victor Bazarov wrote:

The "best" compiler is the
one you use *successfully*, i.e. to create programs *that work*.

But what about standards compliance? Shouldn't they count something on the
evaluation?


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[Victor Bazarov]

Re: Dev cpp

Howard wrote:

"Julián Albo" <JULIANALBO@ter ra.eswrote in message
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>MC felon wrote:
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>>is Dev c++ the best compiler or visual c++ or what?

>>
>What.
>>

>
Agreed, but only version 4.2 or later. Earlier versions of what
sucked.

What frontend was that what based on? Or was it a solid what?

[Victor Bazarov]

Re: Dev cpp

Rui Maciel wrote:

Victor Bazarov wrote:
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>The "best" compiler is the
>one you use *successfully*, i.e. to create programs *that work*.

>
But what about standards compliance? Shouldn't they count something
on the evaluation?

Only if it matters *to you*. I've heard some folk are still
successfully using TurboPascal and love it.

Independent (from *you*) evaluation tends to be less and less
valuable if the criteria it uses are farther and farther from *your*
criteria. If the compliance is one of your own requirements (for
whatever reason you think is important), you add it to the list of
those on which you make your decision. What you essentially need is
a table in which there would be *all* possible criteria listed for
*all* compilers from which you have to select. Then you need to
hand-pick the rows (columns) and then examine your [reduced] set of
compilers WRT the hand-picked criteria. You also need to apply
weights to the criteria, most likely. Then, after a while, you will
get *your* best. Asking for somebody else's "best" is pointless.

Am I muddying the waters well enough?

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[Rui Maciel]

Re: Dev cpp

Victor Bazarov wrote:

Rui Maciel wrote:

Independent (from *you*) evaluation tends to be less and less
valuable if the criteria it uses are farther and farther from *your*
criteria. If the compliance is one of your own requirements (for
whatever reason you think is important), you add it to the list of
those on which you make your decision. What you essentially need is
a table in which there would be *all* possible criteria listed for
*all* compilers from which you have to select. Then you need to
hand-pick the rows (columns) and then examine your [reduced] set of
compilers WRT the hand-picked criteria. You also need to apply
weights to the criteria, most likely. Then, after a while, you will
get *your* best. Asking for somebody else's "best" is pointless.
>
Am I muddying the waters well enough?

Not at all. I have some knowledge of multiple criteria decision analysis and
fuzzy set theory.

The reason I mentioned standards compatibility was because it seems that "MC
felon" is starting out and so he is looking for a decent compiler to start
with. Having in mind his situation, isn't it in his best interests (whether
he realizes it or not) that he adopts a compiler which has a solid
compliance with the standards? Maybe suggesting that any compiler will do
fine will lead him to some problems in the future, right?


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[Victor Bazarov]

Re: Dev cpp

Rui Maciel wrote:

[..]
The reason I mentioned standards compatibility was because it seems
that "MC felon" is starting out and so he is looking for a decent
compiler to start with.

If that is the definition of "the best", any compiler/library combo
released withing the last 3 years would probably do nicely. I am not
aware of any recent compiler really missing the boat.

Having in mind his situation, isn't it in his
best interests (whether he realizes it or not) that he adopts a
compiler which has a solid compliance with the standards?

There are no compilers on the market at this point that don't, most
probably. Find one that isn't compliant and suggest him to avoid it,
rather than find one that has most compiance and single it out based
on that.

Maybe
suggesting that any compiler will do fine will lead him to some
problems in the future, right?

Standard compliance is but a trait. The "bestness" of a compiler
should probably take the compliance into consideration, I don't dispute
that. But there is no way to tell which is "the best" without knowing
what the rest of the criteria are, no? Maybe suggesting any particular
compiler based solely on its degree of standard compliance will lead
him to some problems in the future...

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[MC felon]

Re: Dev cpp

My allusion to the word "best" only pointed out at good graphic
capabilities... ..
Turbo c++ has good enough libraries for ordinary procedural coding or
object oriented
programming...

i was merely refering to the most updated version of the language with
the best libraries
(especially for graphics) and game logic- i can try myself....
thanks.

[p1r0]

Re: Dev cpp


MC felon wrote:

My allusion to the word "best" only pointed out at good graphic
capabilities... ..
Turbo c++ has good enough libraries for ordinary procedural coding or
object oriented
programming...
>
i was merely refering to the most updated version of the language with
the best libraries
(especially for graphics) and game logic- i can try myself....
thanks.

If you are looking for graphics and game logic you should be fine with
any complier. Just look for good graphic libraries. A nice librabry for
games programming, I know of, is Allegro (Don't know if they still
develope it).

Anyway I don't think any C++ compiler is particularly bad or good for
graphic work.

p1r0