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  • dean

    #16
    Re: class vs namespace?


    Default User wrote:
    1. I explained it. Here it is again: Your replies belong following or
    interspersed with properly trimmed quotes.
    >
    2. The FAQ goes over it as well. Did you read it?
    >
    And anyway, what are you adding to this discussion?
    >
    I'm helping you to get help by posting correctly. It so happens that
    I've automated things a bit, so it's easy for me to quickly post the
    information. I do that so others don't.
    >
    Brian
    I already told you I replied to two people, not one. I assumed some
    degree of intelligence to follow the discussion flow. Anyway, I got the
    best solution from someone who was more interested in the topic than in
    correcting other's thread etiquette.

    Dean

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    • Kai-Uwe Bux

      #17
      Re: class vs namespace?

      dean wrote:
      Gosh! Clearly this is a very important issue for some people so I
      apologise to them. I was replying to two people at the same time, not
      just one - both of them had good responses. Should I have just quoted
      one of them?
      [snip]
      Reply to each of them separately. Quote enough material so that your answer
      has enough context to be understood. Don't top-post. Just apply some common
      sense taking into account the technicalities of news groups as a medium:
      different posting propagate with different speeds through the news server
      network. Thus, you cannot assume that the readers of your post have its
      history nicely aligned above it. Instead you have to provide the context
      for your answer. To make clear what your reply refers to, put your reply
      below the quote. This way, references are always clear even if you address
      several points of the posting that you are answering.


      Best

      Kai-Uwe Bux


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      • Default User

        #18
        Re: class vs namespace?

        dean wrote:
        >
        Default User wrote:
        1. I explained it. Here it is again: Your replies belong following
        or interspersed with properly trimmed quotes.

        2. The FAQ goes over it as well. Did you read it?
        And anyway, what are you adding to this discussion?
        I'm helping you to get help by posting correctly. It so happens that
        I've automated things a bit, so it's easy for me to quickly post the
        information. I do that so others don't.
        I already told you I replied to two people, not one. I assumed some
        degree of intelligence to follow the discussion flow. Anyway, I got
        the best solution from someone who was more interested in the topic
        than in correcting other's thread etiquette.

        Say what? That's non-responsive to what I said.

        At any rate, trimmed and bottom-posted, so progress I suppose.



        Brian

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        • dean

          #19
          Re: class vs namespace?


          Default User wrote:
          dean wrote:
          >

          Default User wrote:
          1. I explained it. Here it is again: Your replies belong following
          or interspersed with properly trimmed quotes.
          >
          2. The FAQ goes over it as well. Did you read it?
          >
          And anyway, what are you adding to this discussion?
          >
          I'm helping you to get help by posting correctly. It so happens that
          I've automated things a bit, so it's easy for me to quickly post the
          information. I do that so others don't.
          >
          I already told you I replied to two people, not one. I assumed some
          degree of intelligence to follow the discussion flow. Anyway, I got
          the best solution from someone who was more interested in the topic
          than in correcting other's thread etiquette.
          >
          >
          Say what? That's non-responsive to what I said.
          >
          At any rate, trimmed and bottom-posted, so progress I suppose.
          >
          >
          >
          Brian
          I'd be interested in your opinion on the subject, if you have one
          Brian. If not, then please just don't read the thread if it annoys you.

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          • dean

            #20
            Re: class vs namespace?


            Kai-Uwe Bux wrote:
            Reply to each of them separately. Quote enough material so that your answer
            has enough context to be understood. Don't top-post. Just apply some common
            sense taking into account the technicalities of news groups as a medium:
            different posting propagate with different speeds through the news server
            network. Thus, you cannot assume that the readers of your post have its
            history nicely aligned above it. Instead you have to provide the context
            for your answer. To make clear what your reply refers to, put your reply
            below the quote. This way, references are always clear even if you address
            several points of the posting that you are answering.
            Ok. Thanks for being polite.

            Can I ask how you're reading this? For me I just go to "google groups"
            (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++?hl=en) and it gives a
            fairly simple tree view on the left, I don't generally have any trouble
            seeing how the flow goes, because its neat and tidy and all the old
            post text is hidden, is that not the case for you? It seems like it
            must be worse for some people here considering the responses.

            Dean

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            • Kai-Uwe Bux

              #21
              Re: class vs namespace?

              dean wrote:
              [snip]
              Can I ask how you're reading this? For me I just go to "google groups"
              (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++?hl=en) and it gives a
              fairly simple tree view on the left, I don't generally have any trouble
              seeing how the flow goes, because its neat and tidy and all the old
              post text is hidden, is that not the case for you?
              Nope, it is not the case for me: I use a news reader. That program shows me
              a threaded list of postings available from the news server, i.e., posts
              that have been deleted from the server disappear from my list as well
              (Google keeps the complete archive since they got it from DejaNews,
              however, most news servers don't). When I select a post, the program
              displays that posting only and it does not hide any quoted material (which
              is a good thing since the quotes are the only context that is readily
              available).

              It seems like it must be worse for some people here considering the
              responses.
              It's actually not worse or better; it's different. It happens to be the way
              news groups worked for a few decades (before Google invaded this territory)
              and posting styles have adjusted to the media. Personally, I find the
              Google interface wanting since it hides the quotations by default. However,
              I admit that this is probably a matter of what I am used to.


              Best

              Kai-Uwe Bux

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              • dean

                #22
                Re: class vs namespace?


                Kai-Uwe Bux wrote:
                Nope, it is not the case for me: I use a news reader. That program shows me
                a threaded list of postings available from the news server, i.e., posts
                that have been deleted from the server disappear from my list as well
                (Google keeps the complete archive since they got it from DejaNews,
                however, most news servers don't). When I select a post, the program
                displays that posting only and it does not hide any quoted material (which
                is a good thing since the quotes are the only context that is readily
                available).
                [snip]
                >
                Best
                >
                Kai-Uwe Bux
                I tried a couple of news-readers once, and I didn't like them at all.
                The good thing about google is that you can search all news groups and
                get an answer fast, which is really important if you are working.

                Thanks for the hints,

                Dean

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                • Fred Zwarts

                  #23
                  Re: class vs namespace?


                  "Default User" <defaultuserbr@ yahoo.comwrote in message news:4n0bd2F845 hdU1@individual .net...
                  dean wrote:
                  >So what to do about member variables of the class


                  Please don't top-post. Your replies belong following or interspersed
                  with properly trimmed quotes. See the majority of other posts in the
                  newsgroup, or the group FAQ list:
                  <http://www.parashift.c om/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html>
                  If you are so concerned that others use Netikette, please,
                  adhere to Netikette yourself. This newsgroup is about C++,
                  not about Netikette. If you want to talk about Netikette,
                  please, use other newsgroups, or use private Email.

                  Fred.Zwarts.

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