I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

[RR]

Please take a look at the list of books I am selling for cheap. These prices
are below what the used dealers are selling them for. If you really want a
book and the price is close we may beable to make a deal. I want to get rid
of all these books in the next week. Please look at the link below. It is on
ebay and you will have to page thru the list of all my items to see the
books as they are listed with everything else.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=abstractryan&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50

THANKS!
Ryan

[Daniel Morgan]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programmingbook s

RR wrote:
[color=blue]
>Please take a look at the list of books I am selling for cheap. These prices
>are below what the used dealers are selling them for. If you really want a
>book and the price is close we may beable to make a deal. I want to get rid
>of all these books in the next week. Please look at the link below. It is on
>ebay and you will have to page thru the list of all my items to see the
>books as they are listed with everything else.
>
>http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...sort=3&rows=50
>
>THANKS!
>Ryan
>
>[/color]
How quaint. You put NOSPAM into your return email address than then
proceed to spam every usenet group you can spell.

We have a usenet group, comp.databases. oracle.marketpl ace specifically
designated for posting commercial messages and
you somehow seem to have avoided posting to that single appropriate
location.

I therefore urge everyone to ignore your posting until such time as you
post to the correct usenet group and apologize
for not reading the FAQ and for spamming us. We don't ask for a lot ...
just courtesy.

--
Daniel Morgan

http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp

http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp

damorgan@x.wash ington.edu
(replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)

[RR]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

Give me a break!

I am an individual trying to sell books of mine. Take a chill pill. If you
cant figure out how to take out the NOSPAM from my email address then thats
your problem!

Ryan
"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.was hington.edu> wrote in message
news:1066587989 .14077@yasure.. .[color=blue]
> RR wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Please take a look at the list of books I am selling for cheap. These[/color][/color]
prices[color=blue][color=green]
> >are below what the used dealers are selling them for. If you really want[/color][/color]
a[color=blue][color=green]
> >book and the price is close we may beable to make a deal. I want to get[/color][/color]
rid[color=blue][color=green]
> >of all these books in the next week. Please look at the link below. It is[/color][/color]
on[color=blue][color=green]
> >ebay and you will have to page thru the list of all my items to see the
> >books as they are listed with everything else.
> >[/color]
>
>http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...serid=abstract[/color]
ryan&include=0& since=-1&sort=3&rows=5 0[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> >THANKS!
> >Ryan
> >
> >[/color]
> How quaint. You put NOSPAM into your return email address than then
> proceed to spam every usenet group you can spell.
>
> We have a usenet group, comp.databases. oracle.marketpl ace specifically
> designated for posting commercial messages and
> you somehow seem to have avoided posting to that single appropriate
> location.
>
> I therefore urge everyone to ignore your posting until such time as you
> post to the correct usenet group and apologize
> for not reading the FAQ and for spamming us. We don't ask for a lot ...
> just courtesy.
>
> --
> Daniel Morgan
> http://www.outreach.washington.edu/e...ad/oad_crs.asp
> http://www.outreach.washington.edu/e...oa/aoa_crs.asp
> damorgan@x.wash ington.edu
> (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
>
>[/color]

[Mike Wahler]

Re: [spam] I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

"RR" <rcubed[NOSPAM]@tampabay.rr.co m> wrote in message
news:42Ckb.8558 0$Pd.1754848@tw ister.tampabay. rr.com...[color=blue]
> Give me a break![/color]

No, give *us* a break. We're here to discuss C++. That's
the *specific*, *documented* purpose of comp.lang.c++, nothing
else.

We (imo justifiably) take umbrage at having our discussions
interrupted by your spam.
[color=blue]
> I am an individual trying to sell books of mine.[/color]

Your needs cannot justify your discourtesy.
[color=blue]
>Take a chill pill.[/color]

Take a clue pill. You've just probably alienated many
who might otherwise have shown interest in purchasing your
books, had you advertised them in appropriate places instead
of spamming this forum.
[color=blue]
>If you
> cant figure out how to take out the NOSPAM from my email address then[/color]
thats[color=blue]
> your problem![/color]

I believe you have misunderstood. There was no complaint
about the (in)ability to 'de-munge' your address. Daniel was
simply commenting upon the irony exhibited by your 'defending'
against spamming, while committing that very offense. He
identified you as a hypocrite. I agree.

If you cannot figure out how to use Usenet courteously,
imo you'll create unnecessary problems for yourself.
Many good clues here: www.usenet.org

Of course the final decision is yours. But I do suggest
a bit of thought before behaving as rashly as you have.

-Mike

[osmium]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

RR writes:
[color=blue]
> Give me a break!
>
> I am an individual trying to sell books of mine. Take a chill pill. If you
> cant figure out how to take out the NOSPAM from my email address then[/color]
thats[color=blue]
> your problem!
>
> Ryan
> "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.was hington.edu> wrote in message
> news:1066587989 .14077@yasure.. .[color=green]
> > RR wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >Please take a look at the list of books I am selling for cheap. These[/color][/color]
> prices[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >are below what the used dealers are selling them for. If you really[/color][/color][/color]
want[color=blue]
> a[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >book and the price is close we may beable to make a deal. I want to get[/color][/color]
> rid[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >of all these books in the next week. Please look at the link below. It[/color][/color][/color]
is[color=blue]
> on[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >ebay and you will have to page thru the list of all my items to see the
> > >books as they are listed with everything else.
> > >[/color]
> >[/color]
>
>http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...serid=abstract
> ryan&include=0& since=-1&sort=3&rows=5 0[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > >THANKS!
> > >Ryan
> > >
> > >[/color]
> > How quaint. You put NOSPAM into your return email address than then
> > proceed to spam every usenet group you can spell.
> >
> > We have a usenet group, comp.databases. oracle.marketpl ace specifically
> > designated for posting commercial messages and
> > you somehow seem to have avoided posting to that single appropriate
> > location.
> >
> > I therefore urge everyone to ignore your posting until such time as you
> > post to the correct usenet group and apologize
> > for not reading the FAQ and for spamming us. We don't ask for a lot ...
> > just courtesy.[/color][/color]

Of course he did you a big favor. He turned one post into three posts. And
what you wanted was exposure. I don't know why so many people can't seem to
figure that out. It really isn't complicated.

[RR]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

thank you ;)

Ryan
"osmium" <r124c4u102@com cast.net> wrote in message
news:bmusnm$r6p 3a$1@ID-179017.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
> RR writes:
>[color=green]
> > Give me a break!
> >
> > I am an individual trying to sell books of mine. Take a chill pill. If[/color][/color]
you[color=blue][color=green]
> > cant figure out how to take out the NOSPAM from my email address then[/color]
> thats[color=green]
> > your problem!
> >
> > Ryan
> > "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.was hington.edu> wrote in message
> > news:1066587989 .14077@yasure.. .[color=darkred]
> > > RR wrote:
> > >
> > > >Please take a look at the list of books I am selling for cheap. These[/color]
> > prices[color=darkred]
> > > >are below what the used dealers are selling them for. If you really[/color][/color]
> want[color=green]
> > a[color=darkred]
> > > >book and the price is close we may beable to make a deal. I want to[/color][/color][/color]
get[color=blue][color=green]
> > rid[color=darkred]
> > > >of all these books in the next week. Please look at the link below.[/color][/color][/color]
It[color=blue]
> is[color=green]
> > on[color=darkred]
> > > >ebay and you will have to page thru the list of all my items to see[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > >books as they are listed with everything else.
> > > >
> > >[/color]
> >[/color]
>
>http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...serid=abstract[color=green]
> > ryan&include=0& since=-1&sort=3&rows=5 0[color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >THANKS!
> > > >Ryan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > How quaint. You put NOSPAM into your return email address than then
> > > proceed to spam every usenet group you can spell.
> > >
> > > We have a usenet group, comp.databases. oracle.marketpl ace specifically
> > > designated for posting commercial messages and
> > > you somehow seem to have avoided posting to that single appropriate
> > > location.
> > >
> > > I therefore urge everyone to ignore your posting until such time as[/color][/color][/color]
you[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > post to the correct usenet group and apologize
> > > for not reading the FAQ and for spamming us. We don't ask for a lot[/color][/color][/color]
....[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > just courtesy.[/color][/color]
>
> Of course he did you a big favor. He turned one post into three posts.[/color]
And[color=blue]
> what you wanted was exposure. I don't know why so many people can't seem[/color]
to[color=blue]
> figure that out. It really isn't complicated.
>
>
>[/color]

[RR]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

i mean really. If I was trying to sell cooking products I could understand.
Whats wrong with listing a personal ad for C++ books. When I hung around
these groups before when I was a programmer I welcomed these ads to get good
books at cheap prices.

There is nice amount of hostility here. If you dont like it then DONT READ
IT!

Ryan
"RR" <rcubed[NOSPAM]@tampabay.rr.co m> wrote in message
news:WKCkb.8562 6$Pd.1759163@tw ister.tampabay. rr.com...[color=blue]
> thank you ;)
>
> Ryan
> "osmium" <r124c4u102@com cast.net> wrote in message
> news:bmusnm$r6p 3a$1@ID-179017.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=green]
> > RR writes:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > Give me a break!
> > >
> > > I am an individual trying to sell books of mine. Take a chill pill. If[/color][/color]
> you[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > cant figure out how to take out the NOSPAM from my email address then[/color]
> > thats[color=darkred]
> > > your problem!
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > > "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.was hington.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:1066587989 .14077@yasure.. .
> > > > RR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Please take a look at the list of books I am selling for cheap.[/color][/color][/color]
These[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > prices
> > > > >are below what the used dealers are selling them for. If you really[/color]
> > want[color=darkred]
> > > a
> > > > >book and the price is close we may beable to make a deal. I want to[/color][/color]
> get[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > rid
> > > > >of all these books in the next week. Please look at the link below.[/color][/color]
> It[color=green]
> > is[color=darkred]
> > > on
> > > > >ebay and you will have to page thru the list of all my items to see[/color][/color]
> the[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > >books as they are listed with everything else.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >[/color]
> >[/color]
>
>http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...serid=abstract[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > ryan&include=0& since=-1&sort=3&rows=5 0
> > > > >
> > > > >THANKS!
> > > > >Ryan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > How quaint. You put NOSPAM into your return email address than then
> > > > proceed to spam every usenet group you can spell.
> > > >
> > > > We have a usenet group, comp.databases. oracle.marketpl ace[/color][/color][/color]
specifically[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > designated for posting commercial messages and
> > > > you somehow seem to have avoided posting to that single appropriate
> > > > location.
> > > >
> > > > I therefore urge everyone to ignore your posting until such time as[/color][/color]
> you[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > post to the correct usenet group and apologize
> > > > for not reading the FAQ and for spamming us. We don't ask for a lot[/color][/color]
> ...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > just courtesy.[/color]
> >
> > Of course he did you a big favor. He turned one post into three posts.[/color]
> And[color=green]
> > what you wanted was exposure. I don't know why so many people can't[/color][/color]
seem[color=blue]
> to[color=green]
> > figure that out. It really isn't complicated.
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[WW]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

Stop spamming PLEASE!

[Jamie Burns]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

hehe. whilst i am sure your intentions were good, most people have been
burnt by spam and anything that appears even similar will not be well
received. still, i hope you sell your books!

j.

[Mike Wahler]

Re: [spam] I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

"RR" <rcubed[NOSPAM]@tampabay.rr.co m> wrote in message
news:%MCkb.8562 7$Pd.1758784@tw ister.tampabay. rr.com...[color=blue]
> i mean really. If I was trying to sell cooking products I could[/color]
understand.[color=blue]
> Whats wrong with listing a personal ad for C++ books.[/color]

From your apparent perspective, I suppose that's a
legitimate question.

The answer can be determined by reading the following, which you
should have done *before* posting here in the first place:

http://www.slack.net/~shiva/welcome.txt

[color=blue]
> When I hung around
> these groups before when I was a programmer I welcomed these ads to get[/color]
good[color=blue]
> books at cheap prices.[/color]

Your desires do not determine the purpose of this newsgroup.

There are already well-publicized places for trading of
used items, etc., e.g. eBay, 'for sale' and 'wanted'
newsgroups, etc.
[color=blue]
> There is nice amount of hostility here. If you dont like it then DONT READ
> IT![/color]

If you want to avoid the hostility, stop spamming.
That's not so hard to understand, is it?

BTW your top-posting only adds to the resentment.

-Mike

[RR]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

have. already sold half of them. thanks
Ryan
"Jamie Burns" <sephana@email. com> wrote in message
news:bmuu74$2ck $1$8300dec7@new s.demon.co.uk.. .[color=blue]
> hehe. whilst i am sure your intentions were good, most people have been
> burnt by spam and anything that appears even similar will not be well
> received. still, i hope you sell your books!
>
> j.
>
>
>[/color]

[RR]

Re: [spam] I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

as long as you keep posting smac about me i will keep replying. Get a job in
the real world and you will find out what discourtesy is. This whole thread
is a joke and I cant believe I have entertained it this long.

Ryan
"Mike Wahler" <mkwahler@mkwah ler.net> wrote in message
news:G1Dkb.2850 $np1.800@newsre ad3.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...[color=blue]
> "RR" <rcubed[NOSPAM]@tampabay.rr.co m> wrote in message
> news:%MCkb.8562 7$Pd.1758784@tw ister.tampabay. rr.com...[color=green]
> > i mean really. If I was trying to sell cooking products I could[/color]
> understand.[color=green]
> > Whats wrong with listing a personal ad for C++ books.[/color]
>
> From your apparent perspective, I suppose that's a
> legitimate question.
>
> The answer can be determined by reading the following, which you
> should have done *before* posting here in the first place:
> http://www.slack.net/~shiva/welcome.txt
>[color=green]
> > When I hung around
> > these groups before when I was a programmer I welcomed these ads to get[/color]
> good[color=green]
> > books at cheap prices.[/color]
>
> Your desires do not determine the purpose of this newsgroup.
>
> There are already well-publicized places for trading of
> used items, etc., e.g. eBay, 'for sale' and 'wanted'
> newsgroups, etc.
>[color=green]
> > There is nice amount of hostility here. If you dont like it then DONT[/color][/color]
READ[color=blue][color=green]
> > IT![/color]
>
> If you want to avoid the hostility, stop spamming.
> That's not so hard to understand, is it?
>
> BTW your top-posting only adds to the resentment.
>
> -Mike
>
>
>[/color]

[Mike Wahler]

Re: [spam] I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

"RR" <rcubed[NOSPAM]@tampabay.rr.co m> wrote in message
news:44Dkb.8564 8$Pd.1760908@tw ister.tampabay. rr.com...[color=blue]
> as long as you keep posting smac about me i will keep replying. Get a job[/color]
in[color=blue]
> the real world and you will find out what discourtesy is. This whole[/color]
thread[color=blue]
> is a joke[/color]

Yes, both it and its initiator are, and we all laugh
at both.
[color=blue]
> and I cant believe I have entertained it this long.[/color]

Some folks laugh at their own jokes, yes. Why, I neither
know nor care.

-Mike

[Gary Labowitz]

Re: [spam] I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programming books

"Mike Wahler" <mkwahler@mkwah ler.net> wrote in message
news:TlDkb.2869 $np1.2681@newsr ead3.news.pas.e arthlink.net...[color=blue]
> "RR" <rcubed[NOSPAM]@tampabay.rr.co m> wrote in message
> news:44Dkb.8564 8$Pd.1760908@tw ister.tampabay. rr.com...[color=green]
> > as long as you keep posting smac about me i will keep replying. Get a[/color][/color]
job[color=blue]
> in[color=green]
> > the real world and you will find out what discourtesy is. This whole[/color]
> thread[color=green]
> > is a joke[/color]
>
> Yes, both it and its initiator are, and we all laugh
> at both.
>[color=green]
> > and I cant believe I have entertained it this long.[/color]
>
> Some folks laugh at their own jokes, yes. Why, I neither
> know nor care.[/color]
Joke or not, I once posted to GIVE books away, just having the taker send
postage. Not only was it taken as spam, but people didn't trust me to send
the book for the postage (actually, I offered to send it first and get
reimbursed for the exact amount). I get books for review and don't need this
many lying around. There's probably about 50 here now. I now just throw them
out.
--
Gary

[Daniel Morgan]

Re: I am selling many of my c++, java, Oracle and Game Programmingbook s

RR wrote:
[color=blue]
>Give me a break!
>
>I am an individual trying to sell books of mine. Take a chill pill. If you
>cant figure out how to take out the NOSPAM from my email address then thats
>your problem!
>
>Rya
>[/color]
The question Ryan is not one of chilling and it is most certainly not
one of being able to figure out your
email address. It is one of hypocrisy and learning living within the
rules of etiquette.

You apparently don't see a contradiction in asking people not to spam
you while spamming them. And
you apparently don't see a contradiction in asking people to do you a
favour and purchase your books
while at the same time clearly communicating that you don't give a damn
about them.

I an assure you none of my students will be buying your books. And I
hope no one else here does either.

PS: An apology and repost would have taken fewer keystrokes and sold
your books: Ponder that.

--
Daniel Morgan

http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp

http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp

damorgan@x.wash ington.edu
(replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)