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  • The_Sage

    Re: The_Sage & void main()

    >Reply to article by: "Attila Feher" <attila.feher@l mf.ericsson.se>[color=blue]
    >Date written: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:17:04 +0300
    >MsgID:<bltp7t$ mb2$1@newstree. wise.edt.ericss on.se>[/color]
    [color=blue][color=green]
    >>Attila is feminine when used as a *first* name, you idiot. Attila the
    >>Hun was the name of King whose *last* name was Attila. The key
    >>giveaway here is the -a suffix, which is the feminine form of english
    >>given names, such as Fredirica (Fred) or Andrea (Andrew).[/color][/color]
    [color=blue][color=green]
    >>Can't you get anything right?[/color][/color]
    [color=blue]
    >Attila is a male name you moron.[/color]

    Whatever you say missy.

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    • The_Sage

      Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

      >Reply to article by: "WW" <wolof@freemail .hu>[color=blue]
      >Date written: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:33:45 +0300
      >MsgID:<blv4ek$ d4$1@phys-news1.kolumbus. fi>[/color]
      [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
      >>>Attila is a male name you moron.[/color][/color][/color]
      [color=blue][color=green]
      >>Attila is feminine when used as a *first* name, you idiot. Attila the
      >>Hun was the name of King whose *last* name was Attila. The key
      >>giveaway here is the -a suffix, which is the feminine form of english
      >>given names, such as Fredirica (Fred) or Andrea (Andrew).[/color][/color]
      [color=blue]
      >One addition. The Hungarian language (Attila *is* a Hungarian name) has
      >*no* grammatical gender. BTW Andrea (which is *only* a female name in
      >Hungarian) is actually a male name in other countries.[/color]
      [color=blue]
      >http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramma...rking_on_nouns[/color]
      [color=blue]
      >Short: http://tinyurl.com/q2jg[/color]

      Attila actually is not even a name, it is a title meaning "little father". It
      also technially isn't Hungarian, since it actually originated from
      Gothic-German. And it isn't a Hungarian name, as anyone who isn't Hungary can
      use it as a name, but when used as a name in English, it no longer has any
      meaning because Attila is not an English word. In the English world, given names
      generally have absolutely no meanings to those who give or receive them (except
      for a few words/names like Hope or some New Agers who name their kids things
      like "ray of sunshine")

      And by the "rules" of the English language, Andrea is a female name, just like
      Attila would be in English. In English there are no rules for names except for
      two: Anything ending in -a is feminine, and names do not have to go by any
      phonetic or etymology standards (as if English really had some consistent rules
      -- Ha!).

      The Sage

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      • The_Sage

        Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

        >Reply to article by: "Dunny" <paul.dunn4@ntl world.com>[color=blue]
        >Date written: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:53:52 +0100
        >MsgID:<blvcll$ g2ofk$1@ID-106816.news.uni-berlin.de>[/color]
        [color=blue][color=green]
        >>Thank you for the pleasure of being able to demonstrate beyond a
        >>shadow of a doubt to these NGs, what an illiterate idiot you are.
        >>Case closed. Don't come back until you can finally get a clue.[/color][/color]
        [color=blue]
        >Actually, he was right, and you are mistaken.[/color]

        Actually, you are resorting to the logical fallacy of blind faith assertion.

        The Sage

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        • The_Sage

          Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

          >Reply to article by: Greg Schmidt <gregs@trawna.c om>[color=blue]
          >Date written: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 23:33:17 GMT
          >MsgID:<tli6ov8 qjqmomt3g5gtgi1 573op7r9ikhc@4a x.com>[/color]
          [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
          >>>Thank you for the pleasure of being able to demonstrate beyond a
          >>>shadow of a doubt to these NGs, what an illiterate idiot you are.
          >>>Case closed. Don't come back until you can finally get a clue.[/color][/color][/color]
          [color=blue][color=green]
          >>Actually, he was right, and you are mistaken.[/color][/color]
          [color=blue]
          >He knows full well that he's mistaken,[/color]

          You know full well you are full of shit.
          [color=blue]
          >For those joining in late, here's a summary of the discussion so far:[/color]
          [color=blue]
          >Sage: The main function can return anything it wants to.
          >Everyone: No it can't, and here's the proof from the standard.[/color]

          For those joining in late, that is the typical sort of lying and stupidity that
          comes from this newsgroup. The discussion so far has only been...

          Sage : I use void main()
          Greg : You aren't allowed to do that
          ISO : "The main function shall have a return type of type int but otherwise
          in all other respects the main functions type is
          implementation-defined"
          IBM : We agree with Sage and that's why we provide it for him to use
          MS : We agree with Sage and that's why we provide it for him to use
          Borland : We agree with Sage and that's why we provide it for him to use
          Greg : That isn't what the Standard meant
          Dict. : "but otherwise means in addition to the aforementiond, there are
          exceptions...
          Greg : Wah! I want my mommy!

          And if you get a dictionary and define the words "but" and "otherwise" , you will
          see these idiots have no leg to stand on.

          The Sage

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          • SomeDumbGuy

            Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

            The_Sage wrote:
            [color=blue]
            >[color=green]
            >>I have seen some sites that list that name as a female dog name.
            >>I have seen that name listed as male.[/color]
            >
            >
            > So it can be any of the above, right?[/color]

            I would say yes. But it does *seem* to be more of a man's name.

            [color=blue]
            > I never said it was an "english name", just that in english, which is the
            > language we are *all* using here, Attila is a feminine name because it ends in
            > -a.[/color]

            True, you didn't say it was an english name, but you are applying
            english rules to it. Many languages do not have a gender aspect to it
            (or do not use -a for it.) As the name is not english it does not seem
            to fit putting english rules to it.

            I would guess your are just taking "pokes" at poor attila to tick him
            off. I should just stay out of it :)


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            • WW

              Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

              The_Sage wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
              >> Reply to article by: "Attila Feher" <attila.feher@l mf.ericsson.se>
              >> Date written: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:17:04 +0300
              >> MsgID:<bltp7t$m b2$1@newstree.w ise.edt.ericsso n.se>[/color]
              >[color=green][color=darkred]
              >>> Attila is feminine when used as a *first* name, you idiot. Attila
              >>> the Hun was the name of King whose *last* name was Attila. The key
              >>> giveaway here is the -a suffix, which is the feminine form of
              >>> english given names, such as Fredirica (Fred) or Andrea (Andrew).[/color][/color]
              >[color=green][color=darkred]
              >>> Can't you get anything right?[/color][/color]
              >[color=green]
              >> Attila is a male name you moron.[/color]
              >
              > Whatever you say missy.[/color]

              May your mouth be assured of my gender.

              --
              WW aka Attila


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              • Attila Feher

                Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                SomeDumbGuy wrote:[color=blue]
                > I would guess your are just taking "pokes" at poor attila to tick him
                > off. I should just stay out of it :)[/color]

                He is too obvious for a troll. I know who I am and he can post as much b/s
                as he wants. BTW I have met this very same guy in a forum many years back.
                And he was playing the same idiotic game with my name the same way, even
                using the same words. That guy was a well known troll, and was not called
                The Sage. Apparently he had to change his name so that people will still
                pay some attention to him. And apparently he moved to the asm newsgroup.

                --
                Attila aka WW


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                • David B. Held

                  Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                  "Jonathan Mcdougall" <jonathanmcdoug all@DELyahoo.ca > wrote in message
                  news:1hEgb.6851 6$282.1193251@w eber.videotron. net...[color=blue]
                  > [...]
                  > This thread is dead. Stop trying.[/color]

                  Hey, he not only didn't have a rebuttal, he posted a followup
                  in another part of the thread which further amplifies my counter-
                  example. So he's implicitly conceding a point with his silence,
                  but then contradicting himself (but that's his M.O., so it's to be
                  expected).

                  Dave



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                  • Dunny

                    Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                    The_Sage wrote:
                    [color=blue][color=green]
                    >> Actually, he was right, and you are mistaken.[/color][/color]
                    [color=blue]
                    > Actually, you are resorting to the logical fallacy of blind faith
                    > assertion.[/color]

                    Nah, I live with an English Teacher. You're very funny, Mr Sage, I find you very
                    entertaining.

                    D.





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                    • Alan Morgan

                      Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                      In article <ino6ovsgtnscuq nfrseq6vn85sm7s 4juq1@4ax.com>,
                      The_Sage <theeSage@azrmc i.net> wrote:

                      [snip]
                      [color=blue]
                      >And by the "rules" of the English language, Andrea is a female name, just like
                      >Attila would be in English. In English there are no rules for names except for
                      >two: Anything ending in -a is feminine, and names do not have to go by any
                      >phonetic or etymology standards (as if English really had some consistent rules
                      >-- Ha!).[/color]

                      I just checked with my friend Joshua. He was surprised to discover he is female
                      and wants to know if he should tell his wife. Please advise.

                      Alan
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                      • David B. Held

                        Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                        "Alan Morgan" <amorgan@Xenon. Stanford.EDU> wrote in message
                        news:bm1h9l$qs2 $1@Xenon.Stanfo rd.EDU...[color=blue]
                        > [...]
                        > I just checked with my friend Joshua. He was surprised to
                        > discover he is female and wants to know if he should tell
                        > his wife. Please advise.[/color]

                        Obviously, he needs to change his name to "Joshu" so he
                        will be properly recognized by the gov't as a male.

                        Dave



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                        • Dunny

                          Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                          WW wrote:
                          [color=blue]
                          > May your mouth be assured of my gender.[/color]

                          *That* is going in my list of "best ever" insults. Classic :-)

                          D.



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                          • The_Sage

                            Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                            >Reply to article by: SomeDumbGuy <abuse@127.0.0. 1>[color=blue]
                            >Date written: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 01:53:25 GMT
                            >MsgID:<p6Kgb.2 9227$3b7.22065@ nwrddc02.gnilin k.net>[/color]
                            [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                            >>>I have seen some sites that list that name as a female dog name.
                            >>>I have seen that name listed as male.[/color][/color][/color]
                            [color=blue][color=green]
                            >>So it can be any of the above, right?[/color][/color]
                            [color=blue]
                            >I would say yes. But it does *seem* to be more of a man's name.[/color]

                            Yes, that is true but I believe that is because we have all become accustomer to
                            associating it with Attila the Hun -- who was a male.
                            [color=blue][color=green]
                            >>I never said it was an "english name", just that in english, which is the
                            >>language we are *all* using here, Attila is a feminine name because it ends in
                            >>-a.[/color][/color]
                            [color=blue]
                            >True, you didn't say it was an english name,[/color]

                            Yes I did.
                            [color=blue]
                            >but you are applying
                            >english rules to it. Many languages do not have a gender aspect to it
                            >(or do not use -a for it.) As the name is not english it does not seem
                            >to fit putting english rules to it.[/color]

                            English has no restrictions on what names you can give your children.
                            [color=blue]
                            >I would guess your are just taking "pokes" at poor attila to tick him
                            >off. I should just stay out of it :)[/color]

                            No, actually this was WW's off topic dodge and evade of issues he can't figure
                            out like the difference between a return type and a parameter or the difference
                            between killing a process and ending a program or what the dictioanry states
                            what "but otherwise" literally means.

                            Actually, 90% of the people in these newsgroups can't figure that out either,
                            including Mr/Mrs/It Attila.

                            The Sage

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                            • The_Sage

                              Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                              >Reply to article by: amorgan@Xenon.S tanford.EDU (Alan Morgan)[color=blue]
                              >Date written: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:25:09 +0000 (UTC)
                              >MsgID:<bm1h9l$ qs2$1@Xenon.Sta nford.EDU>[/color]
                              [color=blue][color=green]
                              >>And by the "rules" of the English language, Andrea is a female name, just like
                              >>Attila would be in English. In English there are no rules for names except for
                              >>two: Anything ending in -a is feminine, and names do not have to go by any
                              >>phonetic or etymology standards (as if English really had some consistent rules
                              >>-- Ha!).[/color][/color]
                              [color=blue]
                              >I just checked with my friend Joshua. He was surprised to discover he is female
                              >and wants to know if he should tell his wife. Please advise.[/color]

                              What country is he and his parents from originally?

                              The Sage

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                              • The_Sage

                                Re: The_Sage &amp; void main()

                                >Reply to article by: "Dunny" <paul.dunn4@ntl world.com>[color=blue]
                                >Date written: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:26:49 +0100
                                >MsgID:<bm16ra$ hg94v$1@ID-106816.news.uni-berlin.de>[/color]
                                [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                                >>>Actually, he was right, and you are mistaken.[/color][/color][/color]
                                [color=blue][color=green]
                                >>Actually, you are resorting to the logical fallacy of blind faith
                                >>assertion.[/color][/color]
                                [color=blue]
                                >Nah, I live with an English Teacher.
                                >You're very funny, Mr Sage, I find you very entertaining.[/color]

                                You aren't very literate for living with an English Teacher. Can you ask your
                                Teacher to get a dictionary and look up the words "but" and "otherwise" and tell
                                us what they mean when applied to the sentence from the ISO Standard that
                                states, ""The main function shall have a return type of type int but otherwise
                                in all other respects the main functions type is implementation-defined". Of
                                course, this presumes you really do live with an English Teacher.

                                The Sage

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