style and performance

[Gary Wessle]

Hi

while I am reading this C++ book, I noticed the iterator is being
used to loop through a container, say a vector. I am used to use
"for(int=0;i<ve c.size();++i)" which is better to use?

also I noticed the author references a class variable by using
class-identifier.vari able-identifier instead of get_variable(); again
which is better?

I am just after improving the performance of my code.
thanks

[Alf P. Steinbach]

Re: style and performance

* Gary Wessle:

>
while I am reading this C++ book, I noticed the iterator is being
used to loop through a container, say a vector. I am used to use
"for(int=0;i<ve c.size();++i)" which is better to use?
>
also I noticed the author references a class variable by using
class-identifier.vari able-identifier instead of get_variable(); again
which is better?
>
I am just after improving the performance of my code.

Regarded as style issues your questions are meaningful, but the answers
depend on the context. E.g., using indexing of a vector can be more
clear but can restrict the code to indexable data representations .
Likewise, direct access of object data members can be more clear and
reduce the code (nearly always good), especially for simple cases such
as a 2D point, but can also restrict -- e.g. representation, naming,
the possibility of working on a pure interface, and more.

Regarded as questions about performance the questions are not very
meaningful.

For performance: use efficient algorithms, use common sense, then if
that isn't enough measure, measure, measure.

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[Phlip]

Re: style and performance

Gary Wessle wrote:

while I am reading this C++ book, I noticed the iterator is being
used to loop through a container, say a vector. I am used to use
"for(int=0;i<ve c.size();++i)" which is better to use?

Use an iterator.

Old-fashioned code used an index because the iterator concept was not
invented yet. An iterator more closely matches the code's concept.

also I noticed the author references a class variable by using
class-identifier.vari able-identifier instead of get_variable(); again
which is better?

Generally, always make primitive things private. That includes a classes
data members. Ideally, you should tell a class object What to do, but not
How to do it. The getVariable() idiom is sometimes required, but it
indicates you are asking an object for its data so you can do its actions
for it. You should instead tell the object what to do, and not consider how
it uses its variables to do it.

I am just after improving the performance of my code.

Look up "premature optimization is the root of all evil".

You are asking how to prematurely optimize. The most important resource to
optimize is programming time. You should write the clearest most obvious
code you can. It should use iterators and member functions, not indices or
raw data. Sometimes one is faster, sometimes the other is faster, but you
never know.

To optimize, finish your program, then see if it's slow. With modern CPUs,
you will need to program for a very long time before your code gets slow.
Only at that time should you optimize it. Otherwise you will most likely
waste time optimizing the wrong thing. And such optimizations invariably
make code harder to read. So first work to make the code easy to read and
change.

It's easier to make beautiful code fast than to make fast code beautiful.
And only beautiful code can keep development fast.

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[Alan Johnson]

Re: style and performance

Gary Wessle wrote:

Hi
>
while I am reading this C++ book, I noticed the iterator is being
used to loop through a container, say a vector. I am used to use
"for(int=0;i<ve c.size();++i)" which is better to use?
>
also I noticed the author references a class variable by using
class-identifier.vari able-identifier instead of get_variable(); again
which is better?
>
I am just after improving the performance of my code.
thanks

Another option is to avoid looping over containers. Instead use an
algorithm such as std::for_each to apply some operation to a range of
iterators.

--
Alan Johnson

[Daniel T.]

Re: style and performance

In article <87y7u49h2t.fsf @localhost.loca ldomain>,
Gary Wessle <phddas@yahoo.c omwrote:

while I am reading this C++ book, I noticed the iterator is being
used to loop through a container, say a vector. I am used to use
"for(int=0;i<ve c.size();++i)" which is better to use?

Performance wise, I doubt it makes a difference. Style wise, using
iterators is more versatile because they can be used for lists, and I
expect using iterators for deques would have better performance.

also I noticed the author references a class variable by using
class-identifier.vari able-identifier instead of get_variable(); again
which is better?

Again, performance wise probably none. Style wise... IMHO,
'get_variable() ' is marginally better. The reason I think it is better
is because it can easily be replaced by code that calculates the value
on the fly, or loads the value from disk, or requests the value from
some other object, or any of a number of different things, whereas using
a public member-variable limits you to holding the value in ram in that
object.

[Daniel T.]

Re: style and performance

In article <BCRAg.1073$o27 .861@newssvr21. news.prodigy.co m>,
"Phlip" <phlipcpp@yahoo .comwrote:

Ideally, you should tell a class object What to do, but not How to do
it.

I can't agree with the above. Ideally, you should tell a class object
what its environment is like, you shouldn't be telling it what to do.
It's the object's job to decide what to do based on the information it
is given.

Let's start a war Phlip. :-)

[Phlip]

Re: style and performance

Daniel T. wrote:

Let's start a war Phlip. :-)

Totally. Violent agreement is all the rage, these days, apparently...

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[Bo Persson]

Re: style and performance


"Daniel T." <daniel_t@earth link.netskrev i meddelandet
news:daniel_t-091B62.00093105 082006@news.wes t.earthlink.net ...

In article <87y7u49h2t.fsf @localhost.loca ldomain>,
Gary Wessle <phddas@yahoo.c omwrote:
>
>

>also I noticed the author references a class variable by using
>class-identifier.vari able-identifier instead of get_variable();
>again
>which is better?

>
Again, performance wise probably none. Style wise... IMHO,
'get_variable() ' is marginally better. The reason I think it is
better
is because it can easily be replaced by code that calculates the
value
on the fly, or loads the value from disk, or requests the value from
some other object, or any of a number of different things, whereas
using
a public member-variable limits you to holding the value in ram in
that
object.

In which case get_variable() is a lie, if it isn't getting a variable.
:-)

Naming is important, and get_* and set_* almost always indicates a
problem with the abstraction. For example, a set_position() should
most likely be called something like move(). Having both set and get
promotes horrible code like

obj.set_x(obj.g et_x() + 12);

:-(


Bo Persson

[Daniel T.]

Re: style and performance

In article <4jj985F89ad4U1 @individual.net >, "Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk>
wrote:

"Daniel T." <daniel_t@earth link.netskrev i meddelandet
news:daniel_t-091B62.00093105 082006@news.wes t.earthlink.net ...

In article <87y7u49h2t.fsf @localhost.loca ldomain>,
Gary Wessle <phddas@yahoo.c omwrote:

also I noticed the author references a class variable by using
class-identifier.vari able-identifier instead of get_variable();
again
which is better?

Again, performance wise probably none. Style wise... IMHO,
'get_variable() ' is marginally better. The reason I think it is
better
is because it can easily be replaced by code that calculates the
value
on the fly, or loads the value from disk, or requests the value from
some other object, or any of a number of different things, whereas
using
a public member-variable limits you to holding the value in ram in
that
object.

>
In which case get_variable() is a lie, if it isn't getting a variable.
:-)

'get_informatio n()' would be better.

Naming is important, and get_* and set_* almost always indicates a
problem with the abstraction. For example, a set_position() should
most likely be called something like move(). Having both set and get
promotes horrible code like
>
obj.set_x(obj.g et_x() + 12);

All (non-static) member-functions either return state information about
the object or change state information. In that sense, they are all
either getters or setters, and saying that they are "a problem with
abstraction" becomes a huge problem...