initialize char string

[Yang Lee]

hi
is this correct

char teststr[100]="\0";

or is there another method to initialise;
thanks
lee


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[Christian Kandeler]

Re: initialize char string

Yang Lee wrote:
[color=blue]
> hi
> is this correct
>
> char teststr[100]="\0";
>
> or is there another method to initialise;[/color]

char teststr[100] = "" suffices, because the string literal already has a
NUL character at the end (in position 0, in this case).


Christian

[infobahn]

Re: initialize char string

Yang Lee wrote:[color=blue]
>
> hi
> is this correct
>
> char teststr[100]="\0";[/color]

It works.
[color=blue]
> or is there another method to initialise;[/color]

The following both do the same thing, perhaps a touch more elegantly:

char teststr[100] = "";
char teststr[100] = {0};

[gooch]

Re: initialize char string


infobahn wrote:[color=blue]
> Yang Lee wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > hi
> > is this correct
> >
> > char teststr[100]="\0";[/color]
>
> It works.
>[color=green]
> > or is there another method to initialise;[/color]
>
> The following both do the same thing, perhaps a touch more elegantly:
>
> char teststr[100] = "";[/color]
This initializes the first element to a terminating null character and
does nothing to the rest of the array.[color=blue]
> char teststr[100] = {0};[/color]
This one does not do the same thing. This one initializes the entire
array to zeros.

[pete]

Re: initialize char string

gooch wrote:[color=blue]
>
> infobahn wrote:[color=green]
> > Yang Lee wrote:[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > hi
> > > is this correct
> > >
> > > char teststr[100]="\0";[/color]
> >
> > It works.
> >[color=darkred]
> > > or is there another method to initialise;[/color]
> >
> > The following both do the same thing,
> > perhaps a touch more elegantly:
> >
> > char teststr[100] = "";[/color]
> This initializes the first element to a terminating null character and
> does nothing to the rest of the array.[color=green]
> > char teststr[100] = {0};[/color]
> This one does not do the same thing. This one initializes the entire
> array to zeros.[/color]

infobahn is right, gooch is wrong.

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pete

[Michael Mair]

Re: initialize char string


pete wrote:[color=blue]
> gooch wrote:
>[color=green]
>>infobahn wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Yang Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>>hi
>>>>is this correct
>>>>
>>>>char teststr[100]="\0";
>>>
>>>It works.
>>>
>>>
>>>>or is there another method to initialise;
>>>
>>>The following both do the same thing,
>>>perhaps a touch more elegantly:
>>>
>>>char teststr[100] = "";[/color]
>>
>>This initializes the first element to a terminating null character and
>>does nothing to the rest of the array.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>char teststr[100] = {0};[/color]
>>
>>This one does not do the same thing. This one initializes the entire
>>array to zeros.[/color]
>
> infobahn is right, gooch is wrong.[/color]

To clarify that: C99, 6.7.8#20 (Initializers)
"If there are fewer initializers in a brace-enclosed list than there are
elements or members of an aggregate, or fewer characters in a string
literal used to initialize an array of known size than there are
elements in the array, the remainder of the aggregate shall be
initialized implicitly the same as objects that have static storage
duration."

That is, the second behaviour gooch was talking about (rest initialised
to zero) is always what we can expect.


Cheers
Michael
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[gooch]

Re: initialize char string

[color=blue]
> infobahn is right, gooch is wrong.
>
> --
> pete[/color]

I stand corrected. I seem to remember reading this in the standard at
one point but I went to my document after reading your reply and there
it is just as you say.

[Mabden]

Re: initialize char string

"Michael Mair" <Michael.Mair@i nvalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:36ug98F56o ikrU1@individua l.net...[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>
> >>>char teststr[100] = {0};
> >>
> >>This one does not do the same thing. This one initializes the entire
> >>array to zeros.[/color]
> >
> > infobahn is right, gooch is wrong.[/color]
>
> To clarify that: C99, 6.7.8#20 (Initializers)
> "If there are fewer initializers in a brace-enclosed list than there[/color]
are[color=blue]
> elements or members of an aggregate, or fewer characters in a string
> literal used to initialize an array of known size than there are
> elements in the array, the remainder of the aggregate shall be
> initialized implicitly the same as objects that have static storage
> duration."
>
> That is, the second behaviour gooch was talking about (rest[/color]
initialised[color=blue]
> to zero) is always what we can expect.[/color]

What does this do:

char teststr[100] = {1,2,3};

Does teststr now have 1, 2, 3 then 97 zeros? Or 1, 2, and 98 threes? Or
what?

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Mabden

[kevin.bagust]

Re: initialize char string

In article <RZhQd.205$Pz7. 172@newssvr13.n ews.prodigy.com >,
Mabden <mabden@sbc_glo bal.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> "Michael Mair" <Michael.Mair@i nvalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:36ug98F56o ikrU1@individua l.net...[color=green]
> >[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > That is, the second behaviour gooch was talking about (rest[/color]
> initialised[color=green]
> > to zero) is always what we can expect.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> What does this do:[/color]
[color=blue]
> char teststr[100] = {1,2,3};[/color]
[color=blue]
> Does teststr now have 1, 2, 3 then 97 zeros? Or 1, 2, and 98 threes? Or
> what?[/color]

Its 1, 2, 3 then 97 zeros. It uses the values provided and then fills the
rest of the array will zeros.

Kevin

[Michael Mair]

Re: initialize char string



Mabden wrote:[color=blue]
> "Michael Mair" <Michael.Mair@i nvalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:36ug98F56o ikrU1@individua l.net...
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>char teststr[100] = {0};
>>>>
>>>>This one does not do the same thing. This one initializes the entire
>>>>array to zeros.
>>>
>>>infobahn is right, gooch is wrong.[/color]
>>
>>To clarify that: C99, 6.7.8#20 (Initializers)
>>"If there are fewer initializers in a brace-enclosed list than there[/color]
>
> are
>[color=green]
>>elements or members of an aggregate, or fewer characters in a string
>>literal used to initialize an array of known size than there are
>>elements in the array, the remainder of the aggregate shall be
>>initialized implicitly the same as objects that have static storage
>>duration."
>>
>>That is, the second behaviour gooch was talking about (rest[/color]
>
> initialised
>[color=green]
>>to zero) is always what we can expect.[/color]
>
>
> What does this do:
>
> char teststr[100] = {1,2,3};
>
> Does teststr now have 1, 2, 3 then 97 zeros? Or 1, 2, and 98 threes? Or
> what?[/color]

Think hard, mock elsewhere.
Hint: Integer variables of static storage duration without an explicit
initialiser are initialised to 0, for arrays this applies elementwise.


-Michael
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[Mabden]

Re: initialize char string

"Michael Mair" <Michael.Mair@i nvalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:37drkgF5bc ipkU1@individua l.net...[color=blue]
>
>
> Mabden wrote:[color=green]
> > "Michael Mair" <Michael.Mair@i nvalid.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:36ug98F56o ikrU1@individua l.net...
> >[color=darkred]
> >>>>>char teststr[100] = {0};
> >>>>
> >>>>This one does not do the same thing. This one initializes the[/color][/color][/color]
entire[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >>>>array to zeros.
> >>>
> >>>infobahn is right, gooch is wrong.
> >>
> >>To clarify that: C99, 6.7.8#20 (Initializers)
> >>"If there are fewer initializers in a brace-enclosed list than there[/color]
> >
> > are
> >[color=darkred]
> >>elements or members of an aggregate, or fewer characters in a string
> >>literal used to initialize an array of known size than there are
> >>elements in the array, the remainder of the aggregate shall be
> >>initialized implicitly the same as objects that have static storage
> >>duration."
> >>
> >>That is, the second behaviour gooch was talking about (rest[/color]
> >
> > initialised
> >[color=darkred]
> >>to zero) is always what we can expect.[/color]
> >
> >
> > What does this do:
> >
> > char teststr[100] = {1,2,3};
> >
> > Does teststr now have 1, 2, 3 then 97 zeros? Or 1, 2, and 98 threes?[/color][/color]
Or[color=blue][color=green]
> > what?[/color]
>
> Think hard, mock elsewhere.[/color]

I was not mocking, this time.
[color=blue]
> Hint: Integer variables of static storage duration without an explicit
> initialiser are initialised to 0, for arrays this applies elementwise.[/color]

I was wondering if the array is initialized with the last value or zero.
Actually I meant to add a third option (Does is init with
1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2 ,3,1,2,3 for the size of the array?) but I posted too
quickly and saved myself some embarrassment.. . ooops!

I thought the standard might have meant that it would take whatever
partial initializers it was given and propagated them to the entire
array. But it seems it actually treats it like an automatic variable and
fills with zeros.

I live and learn from all your wonderful insights.

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Mabden