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  • lasek

    Difference between Macro and Function...

    Hi...in some posts i've read...somethin g about using macro rather then
    function...but difference ??.

    Best regards....

  • Joona I Palaste

    #2
    Re: Difference between Macro and Function...

    lasek <claudio.rosset ti@acrm.it> scribbled the following:[color=blue]
    > Hi...in some posts i've read...somethin g about using macro rather then
    > function...but difference ??.[/color]

    Have you read a C textbook? Macros and functions are entirely
    different. A macro is, in principle, text processing. Like "Find and
    replace" in your text editor. Only it happens automatically in the
    compiling process, after tokenisation but before lexical analysis.
    Functions, OTOH, are genuine C language constructs and not merely text
    processing features.
    Functions are handled in all states of the compiling process, right up
    to linking. The generated object files make a distinction between each
    function, and the linker then links all calls between functions
    together. In some cases, even the run-time program knows which function
    it's currently executing.
    None of this is the case with a macro. Once the preprocessor has
    expanded the macro, the rest of the process is handled as if the macro
    never existed.

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    • lasek

      #3
      Re: Difference between Macro and Function...

      Thanks a lot for your explanation...b ut i need more info about how a
      variable was handled into a macro...in particular someone wrote that
      free()..is a macro or function i don't remember so which difference
      between a free() macro and a free() function ??....
      remember ny head is very strong :-)))


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      • john blackburn

        #4
        Re: Difference between Macro and Function...

        lasek wrote:
        [color=blue]
        > Thanks a lot for your explanation...b ut i need more info about how a
        > variable was handled into a macro...in particular someone wrote that
        > free()..is a macro or function i don't remember so which difference
        > between a free() macro and a free() function ??....
        > remember ny head is very strong :-)))[/color]

        free() is the companion function to malloc() and is definitely a function.
        Look up the library documentation; malloc is used to request memory space
        and initialize a pointer to it and free() is used to release that memory
        space.

        macros only exist in the text pre-processing stage of compilation during
        which they are expanded into code whereas functions are items which exist
        throughout the whole process of compilation, link and execution.

        I agree with Joona, the best way forward for you is to read a C text book;
        you will learn a lot more about this than from ad-hoc queries about it in
        this newsgroup.

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        • James Stevenson

          #5
          Re: Difference between Macro and Function...


          KOn Thu, 21 Oct 2004, lasek wrote:
          [color=blue]
          > Thanks a lot for your explanation...b ut i need more info about how a
          > variable was handled into a macro...in particular someone wrote that
          > free()..is a macro or function i don't remember so which difference
          > between a free() macro and a free() function ??....
          > remember ny head is very strong :-)))[/color]

          Yeah i wrote that it was todo with being able to change the
          contents of a variable using a macros but the variable would have
          been out of scope for a function to change it.

          Take the follwing example.
          Which prints
          Macro: 1 Func: 0

          #include <stdio.h>

          #define ADD(x) x++;
          void add(int x) { x++; }

          int main() {
          int macro = 0;
          int func = 0;

          ADD(macro);
          add(func);

          printf("Macro: %d Func: %d\n", macro, func);
          return 0;
          }

          Now if you run the same program though the c pre processor which is the
          first stage of the compile you actually get the following program
          though i cut stdio.h from this output.

          After
          gcc -E file.c

          # 5 "t.c"
          void add(int x) { x++; }

          int main() {
          int macro = 0;
          int func = 0;

          macro++;;
          add(func);

          printf("Macro: %d Func: %d\n", macro, func);
          return 0;
          }

          The macro has completly disappeared and the functionallity of it has been
          placed into the code. eg Search and Replace

          James

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          • Chris Barts

            #6
            Re: Difference between Macro and Function...

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            john blackburn wrote:
            | lasek wrote:
            |
            |
            |>Thanks a lot for your explanation...b ut i need more info about how a
            |>variable was handled into a macro...in particular someone wrote that
            |>free()..is a macro or function i don't remember so which difference
            |>between a free() macro and a free() function ??....
            |>remember ny head is very strong :-)))
            |
            |
            | free() is the companion function to malloc() and is definitely a
            function.

            Maybe, maybe not. It's up to the implementation.

            | Look up the library documentation; malloc is used to request memory space
            | and initialize a pointer to it and free() is used to release that memory
            | space.

            free() could be a wrapper around a function that programmers aren't
            supposed to call directly, or it might not use a function at all, just
            odd compiler magic.

            |
            | macros only exist in the text pre-processing stage of compilation during
            | which they are expanded into code whereas functions are items which exist
            | throughout the whole process of compilation, link and execution.

            Again, maybe, maybe not. If a function is always inlined, it's not going
            to exist through the linking or execution phases.

            |
            | I agree with Joona, the best way forward for you is to read a C text book;
            | you will learn a lot more about this than from ad-hoc queries about it in
            | this newsgroup.

            This is the only part of your answer I agree with unreservedly.
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            • john blackburn

              #7
              Re: Difference between Macro and Function...

              Chris Barts wrote:
              [color=blue]
              > Again, maybe, maybe not. If a function is always inlined, it's not going
              > to exist through the linking or execution phases.[/color]

              An interesting point; does that mean that a source debugger will not be able
              to trace calls to that function ?

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              • Eric Sosman

                #8
                Re: Difference between Macro and Function...

                Chris Barts wrote:[color=blue]
                > john blackburn wrote:
                > |
                > | free() is the companion function to malloc() and is definitely a
                > function.
                >
                > Maybe, maybe not. It's up to the implementation.
                >
                > | Look up the library documentation; malloc is used to request memory space
                > | and initialize a pointer to it and free() is used to release that memory
                > | space.
                >
                > free() could be a wrapper around a function that programmers aren't
                > supposed to call directly, or it might not use a function at all, just
                > odd compiler magic.[/color]

                free() is always a function, in any conforming
                implementation. free() may *also* be provided as a
                macro, at the implementation' s discretion, but it must
                in any case exist as a function. The same is true of
                all the other Standard library functions (other than
                those "functions" that are specifically described as
                macros, of course).

                The following program must compile and run:

                #include <stdio.h>
                #include <stdlib.h>

                static void do_it( void (*func)(void*), void *arg) {
                func(arg);
                }

                static void not_free(void *arg) {
                printf ("not_free: arg = %p\n", arg);
                }

                int main(void) {
                void *ptr = malloc(42);
                do_it (not_free, ptr);
                do_it (free, ptr);
                return 0;
                }

                This example is both contrived and pointless, but
                it's not too hard to come up with a scenario in which
                using a pointer to free() makes sense. At the risk of
                straying from topicality, imagine a suite of programs
                that share a single region of memory. The ordinary
                malloc() and free() functions won't manipulate the
                shared region, so you might well write shared_malloc()
                and shared_free() with identical signatures and similar
                semantics. Now, let's suppose you want to write a handy
                function to release a linked list which might reside in
                either shared or ordinary memory:

                void liberate_list(N ode *list, void (*liberator)(vo id*)) {
                Node *head;
                while ((head = list) != NULL) {
                list = head->next;
                liberator (list);
                }
                }

                Assuming that you know (somehow) whether the list is in
                ordinary or in shared memory, you could write

                if (in_ordinary_me mory)
                liberate_list (list, free);
                else
                liberate_list (list, shared_free);

                .... and the C Standard requires that the pointer to the
                function free() work as expected.

                --
                Eric.Sosman@sun .com

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                • Robert Wessel

                  #9
                  Re: Difference between Macro and Function...

                  john blackburn <john.blackburn NOSPAMPLS@linto nhealy.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4177b69b$ 0$27549$db0fefd 9@news.zen.co.u k>...[color=blue]
                  > Chris Barts wrote:
                  >[color=green]
                  > > Again, maybe, maybe not. If a function is always inlined, it's not going
                  > > to exist through the linking or execution phases.[/color]
                  >
                  > An interesting point; does that mean that a source debugger will not be able
                  > to trace calls to that function ?[/color]


                  In practice it depends on how clever the compiler and debugger are
                  with regards to inline functions. I've seen debuggers that can step
                  through an inlined function as well as any other, and I've seen
                  debuggers that can't see anything but a single statement.

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