exit()

[Darklight]

if the exit() function is contained in stdlid.h
why if i remove the above header file the exit
function still works and i can still compile
program without any error messages using cc file.c
if i use cc -Wall file.c i get error message
file.c:18: warning: implicit declaration of function `exit'
but program will still run and function properly

[Jens.Toerring@physik.fu-berlin.de]

Re: exit()

Darklight <nglennglen@net scape.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> if the exit() function is contained in stdlid.h
> why if i remove the above header file the exit
> function still works and i can still compile
> program without any error messages using cc file.c[/color]

Without appropriate flags telling the compiler to output warnings
many compilers only output messages for errors. Having no declaration
in scope for a function isn't an error, the compiler will assume by
default that that function is going to return an int (at least if you
use a non-C99 compiler).
[color=blue]
> if i use cc -Wall file.c i get error message
> file.c:18: warning: implicit declaration of function `exit'
> but program will still run and function properly[/color]

You're lucky. Even though the compiler had no information on what
arguments exit() takes and it had to make a mistake in the assumption
on what exit() returns (but, due to the nature of exit(), it's rather
unimportant) it seems to have been able to produce a correct input
file for the linker. And the linker doesn't care about declarations
anymore, it just finds exit() in the C standard library of your
system and makes the final executable use that.

Regards, Jens
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[Emmanuel Delahaye]

Re: exit()

Darklight wrote on 03/09/04 :[color=blue]
> if the exit() function is contained in stdlid.h[/color]

It's not. A header only contains function declaration (in prototype
forms since 1989). Please reread your C-book.
[color=blue]
> why if i remove the above header file the exit
> function still works and i can still compile
> program without any error messages using cc file.c
> if i use cc -Wall file.c i get error message
> file.c:18: warning: implicit declaration of function `exit'
> but program will still run and function properly[/color]

This is because the body of the function is elswere (probably in some
library)

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[Flash Gordon]

Re: exit()

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:45:54 +0000 (UTC)
Darklight <nglennglen@net scape.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> if the exit() function is contained in stdlid.h
> why if i remove the above header file the exit
> function still works and i can still compile
> program without any error messages using cc file.c
> if i use cc -Wall file.c i get error message
> file.c:18: warning: implicit declaration of function `exit'
> but program will still run and function properly[/color]

The exit function isn't contained in stdlib.h it is only declared there.
The actual function is either compiler magic of contained in the
standard library.

The warning when using -Wall is the compiler being helpful.

Please note that with some functions you invoke undefined behaviour if
you don't have an appropriate declaration in scope and there are real
systems where this can cause the software to fail. Even for the
functions where it does not automatically invoke undefined behaviour it
prevents the compiler from warning you if the parameters are incorrect
(such as not passing any to exit) so you should always include the
relevant header even if you can get away without it.

Also, if using gcc (which -Wall suggests to me you might be) you might
want to consider:
gcc -ansi -pedantic -Wall -O file.c
This will make gcc comply with the C89 (or possibly C95) standard and
generate additional helpful warnings.
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Although my email address says spam, it is real and I read it.

[Darklight]

Re: exit()

Flash Gordon wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> gcc -ansi -pedantic -Wall -O file.c[/color]

Thanks for that

[CBFalconer]

Re: exit()

Darklight wrote:[color=blue]
> Flash Gordon wrote:
>[color=green]
>> gcc -ansi -pedantic -Wall -O file.c[/color]
>
> Thanks for that[/color]

I use "gcc -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wwrite-strings -O1"

--
"A man who is right every time is not likely to do very much."
-- Francis Crick, co-discover of DNA
"There is nothing more amazing than stupidity in action."
-- Thomas Matthews

[SM Ryan]

Re: exit()

Darklight <nglennglen@net scape.net> wrote:
# if the exit() function is contained in stdlid.h
# why if i remove the above header file the exit

If you don't define or declare a function, it is implicitly declared as
int functionname();
(Returns int, takes an indefinite number of parameters converted with some
default promotions.)

If the function definition is compatiable with the implicit declaration,
it will work.

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You hate people.
But I love gatherings. Isn't it ironic.

[Dan Pop]

Re: exit()

In <41389A21.7B314 626@yahoo.com> CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yah oo.com> writes:
[color=blue]
>Darklight wrote:[color=green]
>> Flash Gordon wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> gcc -ansi -pedantic -Wall -O file.c[/color]
>>
>> Thanks for that[/color]
>
>I use "gcc -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wwrite-strings -O1"[/color]

I don't. As the man page says, there are very good reasons -W and
-Wwrite-strings have not been included into -Wall.

If someone wants to bring gcc even closer to ANSI C conformance on x86,
-ffloat-store should be added to the original set of options. But it
slows down floating point code.

Dan
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