I almost lost patient...
Any advice?
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Any advice?
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wade@tb17.in.li nx writes:
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> I almost lost patient...
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> Any advice?[/color]
If you have so little patience that reading the FAQ is already too much,
computer programming isn't for you. You'd need patience for the latter
activity as well.
Martin
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<wade@tb17.in.l inx> wrote:
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> I almost lost patient...
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> Any advice?[/color]
I think there is something very annoying about long computer files. I
bought the C++ FAQ by Marshall Cline in paperback and I have never been
sorry, I consider it an essential book. But I don't really know if there is
a printed version for C. IMO computers will never totally replace trees,
there will always be some residual need for paper documents..
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In <c5m7ov$39hf8$1 @ID-179017.news.uni-berlin.de> "osmium" <r124c4u102@com cast.net> writes:
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><wade@tb17.in. linx> wrote:
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>> I almost lost patient...
>>
>> Any advice?[/color]
>
>I think there is something very annoying about long computer files. I
>bought the C++ FAQ by Marshall Cline in paperback and I have never been
>sorry, I consider it an essential book. But I don't really know if there is
>a printed version for C.[/color]
You may want to read the very first paragraph of the c.l.c FAQ:
This article is Copyright 1990-1999 by Steve Summit. Content from the
book _C Programming FAQs: Frequently Asked Questions_ is made available
here by permission of the author and the publisher as a service to the
community. It is intended to complement the use of the published text
and is protected by international copyright laws.
A bit further down:
Other versions of this document are also available. Posted along with
it are an abridged version and (when there are changes) a list of
differences with respect to the previous version. A hypertext version
is available on the web at the aforementioned URL. Finally, for those
who might prefer a bound, hardcopy version (and even longer answers to
even more questions!), a book-length version has been published by
Addison-Wesley (ISBN 0-201-84519-9).
Dan
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wade@tb17.in.li nx wrote:
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> I almost lost patient...
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> Any advice?[/color]
Search the on-line comp.lang.c FAQ:
If you don't find the answer to your question,
post your question to the comp.lang.c newsgroup
and say that,
"I searched the FAQ but I couldn't find the answer."
Subscribers to the comp.lang.c newsgroup
will be happy to help you find the relevant answer in the FAQ.
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In <407F1664.20204 09@jpl.nasa.gov > "E. Robert Tisdale" <E.Robert.Tisda le@jpl.nasa.gov > writes:
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>wade@tb17.in.l inx wrote:
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>> I almost lost patient...
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>> Any advice?[/color]
>
>Search the on-line comp.lang.c FAQ:
>
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
>
>If you don't find the answer to your question,
>post your question to the comp.lang.c newsgroup
>and say that,
>
> "I searched the FAQ but I couldn't find the answer."[/color]
No need for this preamble:
1. If the answer is not to be found in the FAQ, no one will blame you for
not reading the FAQ before posting, for the simple reason that there is
no way to tell whether you read it or not ;-)
2. If the answer *is* in the FAQ, you will be toasted, anyway. You will
be suspected of being either a liar or an idiot.
Dan
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Dan Pop wrote:
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> 2. If the answer *is* in the FAQ, you will be toasted, anyway.
> You will be suspected of being either a liar or an idiot.[/color]
by trolls like Dan Pop.
Dan,
Did you ever consider the possibility that
a new subscriber might search the FAQ
and not recognize a relevant question?
This is just one of the differences between helpful regular subscribers
and trolls like yourself who snack on new subscribers.
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"E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:[color=blue]
>[/color]
.... snip ...[color=blue]
>
> This is just one of the differences between helpful regular
> subscribers and trolls like yourself who snack on new subscribers.[/color]
Has anyone formed their own mental picture of Trollsdale? Mine is
of a stooped malevolent small being, with a blotchy complexion,
long nails, stringy hair and running sores, cackling to itself in
an ill-lit corner.
--
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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"E. Robert Tisdale" <E.Robert.Tisda le@jpl.nasa.gov > wrote:
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>This is just one of the differences between helpful regular subscribers
>and trolls like yourself who snack on new subscribers.[/color]
.... said the phisher to the mermaid.
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CBFalconer wrote:[color=blue]
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> "E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:[color=green]
> >[/color]
> ... snip ...[color=green]
> >
> > This is just one of the differences between helpful regular
> > subscribers and trolls like yourself who snack on new subscribers.[/color]
>
> Has anyone formed their own mental picture of Trollsdale? Mine is
> of a stooped malevolent small being, with a blotchy complexion,
> long nails, stringy hair and running sores, cackling to itself in
> an ill-lit corner.[/color]
Odd; my mental picture is of someone whose answer
(the part you snipped, here restored):
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> > Did you ever consider the possibility that
> > a new subscriber might search the FAQ
> > and not recognize a relevant question?[/color][/color]
.... is exactly right. One of the hallmarks of a newbie,
in pretty much any field of endeavor, is that all the bits
of new knowledge float around independently, and the
connections between them are not apparent. For example,
a newbie might have the problem that
printf ("%f\n", sin(theta));
produces absurd output, well outside the range [-1..+1].
If said newbie hunts all over the FAQ looking for advice
on how to get sin() to work, he'll get a lot of help on
linker options, but none on his actual problem. It is
only after a modicum of experience has been gained that
he'll realize that the apparently unrelated
Question 14.2
I'm trying to take some square roots, but I'm
getting crazy numbers.
is actually the information he needs.
Returning to the subject of ERT, I admit I am no fan:
he insists on too many sillinesses (all C programs should
be compilable as C++; whatever my compiler does defines
the language). It does not follow, though, that everything
he writes is wrong. And even if he were unfailingly fallible,
that would not justify playground taunts.
Didn't your mother ever tell you: "If you've nothing
nice to say, say nothing?" I'm sure she did, but you must
not have heard it over the racket of her Army boots.
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Eric.Sosman@sun .com
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:10:57 -0400, Eric Sosman <Eric.Sosman@su n.com>
wrote:
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> Didn't your mother ever tell you: "If you've nothing
>nice to say, say nothing?" I'm sure she did, but you must
>not have heard it over the racket of her Army boots.[/color]
That's not a nice thing to say ;-)
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Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
removebalmercon sultingthis@att .net
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Eric Sosman wrote:
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> CBFalconer wrote:
>[/color]
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>
> Didn't your mother ever tell you: "If you've nothing
> nice to say, say nothing?" I'm sure she did, but you must
> not have heard it over the racket of her Army boots.
>[/color]
Where did that come from? When I was a boy, long before you were,
"Your mother wears Army boots" were fighting words (although I was
never sure why). Today thousands of mothers serve proudly and
honorably in the Army. I can't imagine why you would want to insult
Chuck Falconer. What's going on?
Anyway it wasn't mother who told you that. It was Thumper. :-)
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in comp.lang.c i read:
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>I almost lost patient...
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>Any advice?
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>:)[/color]
i hear the faq for flipping burgers is much shorter.
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In article <fIOdnZAPebPAxB zdRVn-jw@comcast.com> , Joe Wright <joewwright@com cast.net> writes:[color=blue]
> Eric Sosman wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > Didn't your mother ever tell you: "If you've nothing
> > nice to say, say nothing?" I'm sure she did, but you must
> > not have heard it over the racket of her Army boots.
> >[/color]
> Where did that come from? When I was a boy, long before you were,
> "Your mother wears Army boots" were fighting words (although I was
> never sure why).[/color]
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> Today thousands of mothers serve proudly and
> honorably in the Army. I can't imagine why you would want to insult
> Chuck Falconer. What's going on?[/color]
It was a jocular negative example of the point Eric was making about
Chuck's post insulting ERT. I thought that was pretty clear from
the context, but these things are often tough to communicate clearly
in Usenet (due to a combination of the conventions of the medium and
how readers typically regard it).
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A coding theorist is someone who doesn't think Alice is crazy. -- John Gordon
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Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsgu y.com> scribbled the following:[color=blue]
> In article <fIOdnZAPebPAxB zdRVn-jw@comcast.com> , Joe Wright <joewwright@com cast.net> writes:[color=green]
>> Eric Sosman wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > Didn't your mother ever tell you: "If you've nothing
>> > nice to say, say nothing?" I'm sure she did, but you must
>> > not have heard it over the racket of her Army boots.
>> >[/color]
>> Where did that come from? When I was a boy, long before you were,
>> "Your mother wears Army boots" were fighting words (although I was
>> never sure why).[/color][/color]
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> http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/bulletin_bo...sages/508.html[/color]
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>> Today thousands of mothers serve proudly and
>> honorably in the Army. I can't imagine why you would want to insult
>> Chuck Falconer. What's going on?[/color][/color]
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> It was a jocular negative example of the point Eric was making about
> Chuck's post insulting ERT. I thought that was pretty clear from
> the context, but these things are often tough to communicate clearly
> in Usenet (due to a combination of the conventions of the medium and
> how readers typically regard it).[/color]
Not being USAn, or Anglo-Saxic at all for that matter, I still fail to
comprehend what is particularly offensive about someone's mother or
sister being associated with the Army. Could someone explain?
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